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2/11/2016  9:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2016  9:27 AM
Thought I'd take a stab at consolidating into one threat to what will be a well discussed topic.

The Starphuckers guide to the search.

I'll go first.

1. David Blatt: This is a dark horse pick but the Euro style will work with triangle/KP and the man was teammate of Mills when they played at Princeton. Phil won't be here for ever so a tandem for the ages could reunite and Dolan is impressed with Princeton. David is jewish so it works for the "Community". The guy is was thrown into a tough situation but is well regarded as a good coach who just needed to get some NBA cred under his belt. This can be his team going forward.

2. Rambis: We don't have to use "Kurt" as "RAMBIS" itself has a cool ring to it. Like a blend of "Rambo" and "Ramesses" its got a potential one name kind of cool about it. This guy gets the team into the post season he might be the guy. Good sign phil stays a while if this guy is in. Does not have to be a big name guy as he can elevate his stature by winning. Organic home grown pick.

3. Scotty Brooks: Can we just call him Scott as he is an adult now? We have two OKC guys here already, he was a Knick, Did well with KD and if there is a chance..........well then he ranks on the list.

4. Brian Shaw: Triangle ready, already bombed so he is seasoned, would be a good student of Phils and could blend in nice with Rambis and Jim Cleamons. Im never using "Kurt" again when addressing Rambis.

5. Young Luke: The hype is real and this kid will want big money. Fact if Kerr's back don't heal he could be finished. Given the circumstances why go anywhere else? Walton could be the GSW coach in that scenario. Could stay another year under kerr and learn more. Might want to wait until the right situation happens. He is a SoCal kid thru and thru and coming east were the weather is rough and the media is awful. He might be the Lakers next guy regardless of Phil in LA or NY.

6. Thibs: I'd rather say "Rambis" than "Thibs" but the guy from the Riley tree is an obsessive worker who hopefully has learned to not polarize those around him and not run $100,000,000 investments into the ground. Not sure how loved he is by others and if he would be a good recruiting tool. Dolan might suck it up and bring him here if he is the right guy.


My putting Blatt no.1 gives me some bragging rights if it comes to fruition but the obvious top candidate will be Rambis as its his job to lose. Walton is the Starphuchers choice given the hype while Thibs is the sentimental favorite although he has some fundamental issues to over come regarding his desire to get on board with the triangle. Phil can introduce him to some recreational drugs and teach him how to chill.

Im basically good with anyone not named Isiah Lord Thomas.

Perhaps a few of you can chime in and list your choices and what you think can or cannot work!

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2/11/2016  9:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2016  9:57 AM
1. NO!

2. No

3. No.

4. no

5. No!

6. No?

7. *Honorable Mention* I'm hearing now that Kevin Ollie is now a possible candidate for the Knicks HC position.

The only one that really excites me is Thibs. out of all these listed, he seems like someone who "actually" coaches and gives instructions before, during and after games. the only issue with hiring Thibs is that this would be the equivalent of I.Thomas hiring L.Brown in the sense that Thomas was trying to, initially, construct a "run & Gun" offense and then brings in a half-court defensive minded coach. Because they have different philosophies, I don't believe PJAX and Thibs will work.

K.Ollie does intrigue me and has head coaching experience

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2/11/2016  9:58 AM
Kerr to me is Linsanity all over again. He wants to get paid but just doesn't have the body of work to justify it.

Shaw and Blatt are just no thanks.

Rambis will get consideration, but the most qualified candidates for the job are Thibs and Brooks.

Unfortunately, Phil's coaching tree and system are exactly what Dolan was to GM's and wacky personal moves.

Phil needs to hire the most qualified coach and then step back into a support role. He needs to do to himself what he did to Dolan.

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2/11/2016  10:09 AM
dark horse candidates? for example one could argue that the d-league is not just about developing players; any triangular coaches down there to think about?

thought process is phil came from cba and i think was an assistant for one year before taking over from collins.

no to brooks. nice guy etc. but he couldn't punch it over the goal line with perhaps the most talent in the league. something not right

i trust phil at his word when he said he wanted players who wanted to be here/NYC. i think that will carry over to the coaching staff. Thibs is obvious; intrigued by Luke but he has to want NYC

and i don't buy all this "right opportunity" crap. there are a few premier locations in the whole league. He has to factor that in or miss a window of opportunity.

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2/11/2016  10:25 AM
Swishfm3 wrote:1. NO!

2. No

3. No.

4. no

5. No!

6. No?

7. *Honorable Mention* I'm hearing now that Kevin Ollie is now a possible candidate for the Knicks HC position.

The only one that really excites me is Thibs. out of all these listed, he seems like someone who "actually" coaches and gives instructions before, during and after games. the only issue with hiring Thibs is that this would be the equivalent of I.Thomas hiring L.Brown in the sense that Thomas was trying to, initially, construct a "run & Gun" offense and then brings in a half-court defensive minded coach. Because they have different philosophies, I don't believe PJAX and Thibs will work.

K.Ollie does intrigue me and has head coaching experience

You heard K.Ollie's name on here so that doesn't make him a candidate unless you heard his name mentioned elsewhere and if you did then can you provide a link??

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2/11/2016  12:01 PM
System basketball....

It's Kurt Rambis job to lose. I think he's our guy. I do expect the coaching staff to change this off season. There might end up being 2-3 new guys in the staff. I think the guys will look at Rambis as a professional and come to work for him and each other. Phil stated that Rambis is a jokester but a old school style of coach. Basically a true Phil disciple. He should have went with Rambis from jump but chose to just tag the "associate" tag on him. I can see why he wanted the fresh young voice but nobody expected Fisher to be such a phony.

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2/11/2016  12:07 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:1. NO!

2. No

3. No.

4. no

5. No!

6. No?

7. *Honorable Mention* I'm hearing now that Kevin Ollie is now a possible candidate for the Knicks HC position.

The only one that really excites me is Thibs. out of all these listed, he seems like someone who "actually" coaches and gives instructions before, during and after games. the only issue with hiring Thibs is that this would be the equivalent of I.Thomas hiring L.Brown in the sense that Thomas was trying to, initially, construct a "run & Gun" offense and then brings in a half-court defensive minded coach. Because they have different philosophies, I don't believe PJAX and Thibs will work.

K.Ollie does intrigue me and has head coaching experience

You heard K.Ollie's name on here so that doesn't make him a candidate unless you heard his name mentioned elsewhere and if you did then can you provide a link??

I saw it on espn so I can vouch for the Ollie rumor.

I gotta ask though, if it's written it must be true? These reporters are selling spin. They prey on rabid fans.

Truth is what Phil says. We're running a system offense. We're not hiring Scott Brooks to bring Durant here. If that was the case we could hire his mom. She's the real mvp

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2/11/2016  12:09 PM
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2/11/2016  12:32 PM
1)Thibs

2)Tommy T

3)Thibsy

4)ThibaDee

5)Double T

6)T-Bone

It's all semantics. Search should begin and end with 1 dude.

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2/11/2016  2:18 PM
I'd be curious if some of you added why some would be a good choice or not.

To me, scotty brooks is about Kevin Durant. I get why he was let go but 7 years is a good run for any organization!

Funny, Thibs has not gone to the finals but Blatt and Brooks has. If OKC beat Miami, then is he golden?
OKC had to deal with the Lakers, Mavs (they were champs)and SAS. The one year they were no. 1 seed they did not make it to the Conf. finals. One might say he is in the same league as Thibs?
If not, why???

We all want the big name and the guy that is going to WIN NOW with a WIN NOW REPUTATION, or that up and coming guy who conceptually is great!!!!

Kevin Ollie by reputation is a good guy and well thought of.


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Thibs......

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2/12/2016  12:28 PM
Nalod wrote:Thought I'd take a stab at consolidating into one threat to what will be a well discussed topic.

The Starphuckers guide to the search.

I'll go first.

1. David Blatt: This is a dark horse pick but the Euro style will work with triangle/KP and the man was teammate of Mills when they played at Princeton. Phil won't be here for ever so a tandem for the ages could reunite and Dolan is impressed with Princeton. David is jewish so it works for the "Community". The guy is was thrown into a tough situation but is well regarded as a good coach who just needed to get some NBA cred under his belt. This can be his team going forward.

2. Rambis: We don't have to use "Kurt" as "RAMBIS" itself has a cool ring to it. Like a blend of "Rambo" and "Ramesses" its got a potential one name kind of cool about it. This guy gets the team into the post season he might be the guy. Good sign phil stays a while if this guy is in. Does not have to be a big name guy as he can elevate his stature by winning. Organic home grown pick.

3. Scotty Brooks: Can we just call him Scott as he is an adult now? We have two OKC guys here already, he was a Knick, Did well with KD and if there is a chance..........well then he ranks on the list.

4. Brian Shaw: Triangle ready, already bombed so he is seasoned, would be a good student of Phils and could blend in nice with Rambis and Jim Cleamons. Im never using "Kurt" again when addressing Rambis.

5. Young Luke: The hype is real and this kid will want big money. Fact if Kerr's back don't heal he could be finished. Given the circumstances why go anywhere else? Walton could be the GSW coach in that scenario. Could stay another year under kerr and learn more. Might want to wait until the right situation happens. He is a SoCal kid thru and thru and coming east were the weather is rough and the media is awful. He might be the Lakers next guy regardless of Phil in LA or NY.

6. Thibs: I'd rather say "Rambis" than "Thibs" but the guy from the Riley tree is an obsessive worker who hopefully has learned to not polarize those around him and not run $100,000,000 investments into the ground. Not sure how loved he is by others and if he would be a good recruiting tool. Dolan might suck it up and bring him here if he is the right guy.


My putting Blatt no.1 gives me some bragging rights if it comes to fruition but the obvious top candidate will be Rambis as its his job to lose. Walton is the Starphuchers choice given the hype while Thibs is the sentimental favorite although he has some fundamental issues to over come regarding his desire to get on board with the triangle. Phil can introduce him to some recreational drugs and teach him how to chill.

Im basically good with anyone not named Isiah Lord Thomas.

Perhaps a few of you can chime in and list your choices and what you think can or cannot work!

Thom Thibs OR Mark Jackson is going be next NBA Knicks coach

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2/12/2016  12:33 PM
crzymdups wrote:Thibs

Things--take a hard look at Chicago
Rose always injured
Butler--injured
Noah--injured

why--Thibs ran them into the ground--thats why hes not there. Why does San Antonio and Golden State keep players minutes low? Because they are smart.

Id go Luke Walton. Anyone who has gone through such a winning process has learned a whole lot about what it takes to win how to manage a roster etc..

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2/12/2016  12:35 PM
Nalod wrote:<<<
I'd be curious if some of you added why some would be a good choice or not.

To me, scotty brooks is about Kevin Durant. I get why he was let go but 7 years is a good run for any organization!

Funny, Thibs has not gone >>>


Once a knick, always a knick!



Thibs......

True
Thibs went to NO Finals but at least 1/2 time Or less than 50% of time Thibs Didn't have Derrick Rose ..the ROSE we know(star)

Both Brooks (OKC) and Blatt (CAV) had Durant/Westbrook & Lebron on cavs..respectively
Not fair to Thibs to make this comparison with them kind of teams
h

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2/12/2016  12:55 PM
Dj, of course if you got the players you can be a better coach!!!
Blatt rode the coat tails of Lebron, and Brooks with Durant.
But at some level they made it work. Some teams are snake bitten and can't get over the hump.
Karl had a hard time getting past conf. finals.

My point is all of them are good coach's and should get consideration for what they did.
As for Thibs "DYING" to coach, maybe he should walk in and say he'd do it for a $3mil and a one year deal.
He can even keep RAMBIS and Cleamons as assistants!

Personally, I like the guy and his grit. My only knock against him was he did not play well with management and ran Noah into the ground. But to be fair, I think coach's gain experience and build on it.

Fans evaluate coach's sole on their previous gigs as if those many variables were to move with them. Walton does not get Steph Curry or the roster. None of these guys get anyone to bring with them!

That's my list. Not sure in what Order I'd rank them.

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2/12/2016  1:30 PM
I'm pretty sure that Rambis is the most likely guy to get the job. He's already here and he's Phil's guy. They've won titles together and have a great rapport already. Rambis seems like the closest to Phil in terms of his personality and style. If he had a better record, no doubt Phil would've made him the head coach instead of Fish. Phil set it up so that Rambis could slide in if Fish failed and that's exactly what happened.

Thibs is IMO the obvious next option if Rambis is a total failure. He's got all the tools to be successful in NY.

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2/12/2016  3:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2016  3:23 PM
Nalod wrote:Dj, of course if you got the players you can be a better coach!!!
Blatt rode the coat tails of Lebron, and Brooks with Durant.
But at some level they made it work. Some teams are snake bitten and can't get over the hump.
Karl had a hard time getting past conf. finals.

My point is all of them are good coach's and should get consideration for what they did.
As for Thibs "DYING" to coach, maybe he should walk in and say he'd do it for a $3mil and a one year deal.
He can even keep RAMBIS and Cleamons as assistants!

Personally, I like the guy and his grit. My only knock against him was he did not play well with management and ran Noah into the ground. But to be fair, I think coach's gain experience and build on it.

Fans evaluate coach's sole on their previous gigs as if those many variables were to move with them. Walton does not get Steph Curry or the roster. None of these guys get anyone to bring with them!

That's my list. Not sure in what Order I'd rank them.

they're used to be a saying that a good coach either wins or develops players and a great coach does both

they used to say it a lot up here in Boston back in the Bird days referring to Fitch's ability to develop players but seeming inability to get things over the goal line, whereas KC Jones could (but who probably needed work on player development)

You look at a guy like Popovich and he does both

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2/12/2016  5:40 PM

Jackson played collegiately at the University of North Dakota under head coach Bill Fitch and assistant Jimmy Rodgers. Both Jackson and Fitch were voted among the top 10 coaches in NBA history by the media when the league celebrated its 50th anniversary. Rodgers would become head coach of the Boston Celtics and Minnesota Timberwolves before serving as an assistant to Jackson with the Bulls.
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2/12/2016  8:43 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
Nalod wrote:<<<
I'd be curious if some of you added why some would be a good choice or not.

To me, scotty brooks is about Kevin Durant. I get why he was let go but 7 years is a good run for any organization!

Funny, Thibs has not gone >>>


Once a knick, always a knick!



Thibs......

True
Thibs went to NO Finals but at least 1/2 time Or less than 50% of time Thibs Didn't have Derrick Rose ..the ROSE we know(star)

Both Brooks (OKC) and Blatt (CAV) had Durant/Westbrook & Lebron on cavs..respectively
Not fair to Thibs to make this comparison with them kind of teams
h

True, but he is also partially to blame for running people to the ground. Noah is a relic of his former self, so is Rose. I would pass on Thibs, heck I don't really want yet another coach. Just stay the course.

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