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newyorker4ever
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2/8/2016 1:28 PM
I caught the end of it cause i'm at work but can someone post it on here please if you can find it???
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nixluva
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2/8/2016 2:38 PM
I found the press Conf. VERY enlightening! My take is Fish wasn't really listening to what Phil, Rambis and Cleamons had to say. He would acknowledge their input but not apply it. That's what Phil seemed to be saying. Fish did work hard but not always using his players the right way.
One big point with Phil was the defense wasn't as good and he felt that was a huge issue with Fish and the team. Fish may not have handled the defensive implementation well. Phil said he wanted the team to get back to the defensive intensity they had earlier. He said Rambis would be a bit more relaxed at the same time be serious about basketball but not take himself too seriously. Phil and Mills still want to improve the team but think the team is better than they've been playing. |
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Malcolm
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2/8/2016 2:43 PM
nixluva wrote:I found the press Conf. VERY enlightening! My take is Fish wasn't really listening to what Phil, Rambis and Cleamons had to say. He would acknowledge their input but not apply it. That's what Phil seemed to be saying. Fish did work hard but not always using his players the right way. Thanks for link (!) Yeah . . . this is enlightening. Looks like Fisher may have been overwhelmed by job . . . |
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smackeddog
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2/8/2016 2:45 PM
nixluva wrote:I found the press Conf. VERY enlightening! My take is Fish wasn't really listening to what Phil, Rambis and Cleamons had to say. He would acknowledge their input but not apply it. That's what Phil seemed to be saying. Fish did work hard but not always using his players the right way. That's what I got out of it too. Seems like Fish was favouring the younger assistants from OKC and ignoring Phil's guys. I think Fish was growing tired of the triangle, and straying from it- we could see that in games: start half-arsed triangle, get behind, go to pick and rolls,catch up, then go to iso in the final mins and lose. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
2/8/2016 2:52 PM
smackeddog wrote:nixluva wrote:I found the press Conf. VERY enlightening! My take is Fish wasn't really listening to what Phil, Rambis and Cleamons had to say. He would acknowledge their input but not apply it. That's what Phil seemed to be saying. Fish did work hard but not always using his players the right way. Seems like Fish was irked by the advice of the old guys. Maybe it's why Phil stopped trying to give Fish advice or get more involved with the team as he said he would. Who knows. Phil said Fish would respond to his messages with short answers like "got it". Phil said he called a meeting and the young coaches didn't show up cuz they weren't notified by Fish! |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
2/8/2016 3:00 PM
nixluva wrote:smackeddog wrote:nixluva wrote:I found the press Conf. VERY enlightening! My take is Fish wasn't really listening to what Phil, Rambis and Cleamons had to say. He would acknowledge their input but not apply it. That's what Phil seemed to be saying. Fish did work hard but not always using his players the right way. Fish was probably irked by the idea that he was Phil's lacky- seem to remember him commenting on it at the start of the year. Must have been quite restrictive for him, but he knew what he was signing up to and didn't have a coaching record of his own or any gravitas to be able to stand up for himself. |
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Chandler
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2/8/2016 3:20 PM
nixluva wrote:smackeddog wrote:nixluva wrote:I found the press Conf. VERY enlightening! My take is Fish wasn't really listening to what Phil, Rambis and Cleamons had to say. He would acknowledge their input but not apply it. That's what Phil seemed to be saying. Fish did work hard but not always using his players the right way.
I had this vibe a long time back and commented on it. That Derek was a little too peeved on all the Phil talk, and I imagine Phil must've been thinking "I must have something to contribute; I won 11 rings" It will be very interesting to see how players react. It's a great opportunity for certain players, and for Rambis too I also got the sense that Phil was sending a message to Melo: move the ball, no more game ending ISO (5)(7)
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newyorker4ever
Posts: 26515 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/19/2014 Member: #5816 |
2/8/2016 4:25 PM
nixluva wrote:I found the press Conf. VERY enlightening! My take is Fish wasn't really listening to what Phil, Rambis and Cleamons had to say. He would acknowledge their input but not apply it. That's what Phil seemed to be saying. Fish did work hard but not always using his players the right way. Thanks Nix |
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mreinman
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2/8/2016 4:29 PM
not that kind to melo in this press conference. Seems to jab him a bit.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
2/8/2016 5:47 PM
The interesting thing is that we'll get to see something different in terms of how the rotations are set and the emphasis of the defense and offense could look very different. Rambis has some interesting concepts on defense that he stressed in the past. He once feuded with Phil about changing the Lakers D to use more Zones, which Phil refused to do for a long time.
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 2008 http://emuss.blogspot.com/2008/11/lakers-success-starts-with-defense.html |