The Orlando GM is a complete moron. How can you be so stupid? I am a at a loss for words on this one.

i bet wed do much better if we went after deals like this. trying to pay craford 9mm and dampier 10mm per year and taking back a bunch of crd is a tad scary. dampier or crawford for the mle is fine, but the big money long term could be laydumbish

The orlando magic is one pathetic organization.....

I'd hold of on proclaming the Cavs better then us just yet. And the Sixers gor worse if anything. They traded away Snow for total garbage in a yet another boneheaded GM move of this twilight zone offseason.

Gooden is a much better scorer then Boozer, but it remains to be see how he feets into the Cavs system and whether he can be a good defender and a strong rebounder. As one of my freinds puts it, he could be the black Van Horn, a skilled player who is good in a lot of things but not great in any facet of the game and lacks the fire that makes somebody special.

Posted by Nalod:

You guys are so freaking smart.

Gooden now on his third team in two seasons.

West trades him half way thu his rookie season, and he loses his starting job to Juwan Howard.

And you assume the Magic are so smart.

Lets see, Gooden is the top party guy in the league, has a bloated obnoxious "entourage", and a lousy work ethic.

This guy got "dumped" by the magic, and the cavs are despirate.

yea, that is odd that gooden's value is so low, cleveland is desperate, but you know nalod, around here if a guy was a lottery pick, is still young and still breathing, everyone thinks he is a future star.. It says a lot about gooden's value when teams are trying to give him away, but the magic organization is still pathetic, they basically turned Mike miller into tony battie...???

the question is not "how the hell did the cavs get gooden when we did not" but "Did we need him ?"

The answer is no. We have sweet who will be much more valuavble than gooden who has been traded already twice in 2 yrs. Orlando fans didn't loike at all and he's said to have a big attitude problem (like I'm the best player in the world).

I don't care a **** about gooden and I don't see how philly or the cavs would be better than us.

We have a good starting five and a real bench. Can all those teams say that ?

we're much better than last yr, and than people think.

Why don't we get the facts straight for a change.

Gooden is traded halfway through the season to the Magic who at that time are struggling to make the playoff picture, contending with, for example, the sorry Layden Knicks.

Raptors go on with Giricek (who btw also came over in that trade) and Gordon as there starters to make the playoffs with ease and play very well in them.

Next offseason, the Magic sine Howard to a 100 year deal for a lot of money. Why, well, they are the Magic, who the heck knows why.

Howard is made the defacto starter because well, thats why he got a huge deal, to start at his positoin the PF.

Giricek starts of the year on IL, Gooden on the bench. The Orlando lineup fitures Britton and undrafted rook at SF, Howard at PF, Lue at PG, and Tmac. Gooden is forced to play C. Which he is not by any means. Despite beatin the still sorry/chokers Chaney/Layden Knicks who manage to give the game away despite the Magic trying hard to loose, Orlando goes on to a very very bad season. Everything go stouh on them, includin Tmac. Gooden is pouting. Who would not be? Your start player is contemplating retirement rather then earn his dough. Your coach has been fired, and the new one stinks. You organizatoin is the biggest joke outside of the then Ladyen Knicks.

So fast forward, Magic looses Tmac, great move right (I'm kiddin, just makin sure). Then they decide to conintue moving out the witnesses of the disaster. Gooden is moved out for Battie. Battie, who is nothign more then a solid backup C.

The Grizz team that Gooden was on has Gasol, Wright, Swift, as ther bigmen, they harldy need Gooden. They needed outside shooting. They get Mile Miller. That is the only reasonable move in Gooden's career. Other then that it makes no sense.