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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
2/4/2016 5:45 AM
Where would these guys fall in the draft? Could we get a second rounder to draft them?
I'm in favor of upgrades at the 1, 2, 3 positions on this team. I think Melo should be playing a lot of 4, as should DWill. I think it's important to have a guy like Rolo in case you need him - GSW has Bogut who is very similar. But it's about the rest of the roster. We need shooting and defense and the ability to create their own shot from our guards and we need some swing players at the 2/3. If we're talking free agency, guys I would target who would fit this bill are: Evan Turner If we can't hit a home run in FA with a Mike Conley, I would try to get two of the guys above. I'd try to get out of the Afflalo deal - let him walk if he opts out, or else sign him for far less. ¿ △ ?
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
2/4/2016 8:24 AM LAST EDITED: 2/4/2016 8:26 AM
Rolo doesn't fit the way the game is played? I couldn't disagree more. There isn't one way the game is played. If you're playing well on both ends of the court, you're helping your team.
I agree about possibly trading Melo but because of his age, wear-and-tear, and contract, not because he doesn't fit the modern NBA. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53902 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
2/4/2016 8:56 AM
crzymdups wrote:Where would these guys fall in the draft? Could we get a second rounder to draft them?I think that is what is lost on Briggs with Lopez. In today's game there will be nights you simply dont use him much, and he ends up with an 18min, 5 point, 6reb night and you get these threads that we should trade him for 2nd rounders. Melo, LG, AA... they really sucked in that last Boston game, but Lopez kept us in it, and won us the last Boston game, and had we gotten a normal Melo performance (yes I blame his poor play for the Boston loss) we would have won those two Boston games because we had Lopez and they didnt... in this guard driven league. I actually love Lopez'z contract as great piece to have next 3 years. Lopez will be 30, KP will be 23 and you will know at the perfect time in his career the right player to put next to KP (Melo's deal will also be done same time) "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
2/4/2016 11:05 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Rolo doesn't fit the way the game is played? I couldn't disagree more. There isn't one way the game is played. If you're playing well on both ends of the court, you're helping your team. wasting your time. He creates 10 threads a day with some rolo dig. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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newyorker4ever
Posts: 26515 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/19/2014 Member: #5816 |
2/4/2016 11:38 AM
BRIGGS wrote: Have you not been watching the games this season?? KP's post game/in the paint game needs a ton of work. He's getting banged around by the bigger PF's in the games and he's having problems backing anyone down and with getting backed down. Right now KP is a PF that can play some center depending on who's playing center for the other team. Now he is talking about coming into next season around 245 which he'll need every bit of to play center but that's still up in the air if he'll be able to get to that weight and if he does then he'll have to hold onto that weight during the season which has been difficult for him this year. So you're always posting players that we should draft next year but we have no draft picks in the draft so would you care to share some of your ways of us getting any?? You don't just get them because you want them. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/4/2016 12:38 PM
fishmike wrote:crzymdups wrote:Where would these guys fall in the draft? Could we get a second rounder to draft them?I think that is what is lost on Briggs with Lopez. In today's game there will be nights you simply dont use him much, and he ends up with an 18min, 5 point, 6reb night and you get these threads that we should trade him for 2nd rounders. After watching the team I do not think we can keep BOTH KP and Lopez in the starting line up. Its like baseball--you see the pitcher the second o r third time--you kind of measure him. Well I think teams have kind of got our gig. Right now Ro lo is playing BETTER than KP he simply is. But I view KP as the C of the next decade and that leaves me with the dilemma of Ro Lo--effective yes--replaceable yes. Whats his value right at this minute---very solid--if it can materially help me in the guard position by trading him--well you have to be a forward thinker. Who else holds strong value besides Ro Lo---well Carmelo but I guess hes here. So no one else. RIP Crushalot😞
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callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
2/4/2016 12:48 PM
i agree BRIGGS - with time KP should move to the 5. Rolo and the other big men were acquired cuz they didnt think KP is ready. he still isnt ready for the 5 and might not be next yr. but i dont think Rolo will play in NY for the remainder of his contract
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/5/2016 12:13 PM
callmened wrote:i agree BRIGGS - with time KP should move to the 5. Rolo and the other big men were acquired cuz they didnt think KP is ready. he still isnt ready for the 5 and might not be next yr. but i dont think Rolo will play in NY for the remainder of his contract We can keep Ro Lo hes a good player but I dont see the team being successful on a long term basis with both guys playing 35 minutes. To slow. Anyone can put the player they like into this thread--but the theme is we need players who can go AROUND KP that make sense who play basketball a certain way that will ultimately make this a great team or NOT. Sorry Carmelo is not going to be part of it--not happening. So who can bring us back assets right now---you have Affalo Lopezz Carmelo--someones got to go. The next game Affalo has 28 points Id be on the phone trying to get a 1 and a 2 for him in 2016. I would also trade Carmelo but thats just my own thinking--hes just not a right fit. RIP Crushalot😞
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
2/5/2016 12:18 PM
BRIGGS wrote:callmened wrote:i agree BRIGGS - with time KP should move to the 5. Rolo and the other big men were acquired cuz they didnt think KP is ready. he still isnt ready for the 5 and might not be next yr. but i dont think Rolo will play in NY for the remainder of his contract nobody is stupid enough to give up a #1 for AA. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/5/2016 12:28 PM
mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:callmened wrote:i agree BRIGGS - with time KP should move to the 5. Rolo and the other big men were acquired cuz they didnt think KP is ready. he still isnt ready for the 5 and might not be next yr. but i dont think Rolo will play in NY for the remainder of his contract The guy is a player who can get us a late 1 RIP Crushalot😞
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jullybully21
Posts: 20037 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/5/2015 Member: #6007 |
2/5/2016 12:37 PM
Hey Briggs, what is your opinion on Wade Baldwin from Vandy?
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/5/2016 12:46 PM LAST EDITED: 2/5/2016 12:50 PM
jullybully21 wrote:Hey Briggs, what is your opinion on Wade Baldwin from Vandy? Hes smooth long for 6-3 he can play PG in the NBA under rated not on draft radars but hes also only a soph. Has a strange release but he makes his shots I dont anticipate hed be coming out. I think he can be a lottery pick in 2017. There is a BUNCH of upperclassmen that are SEVERELY under rated on draft radars this year. I have Hammonds Felder Valentine all in my top 14. I have Hield 3. RIP Crushalot😞
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42864 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
2/5/2016 12:52 PM
mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Rolo doesn't fit the way the game is played? I couldn't disagree more. There isn't one way the game is played. If you're playing well on both ends of the court, you're helping your team.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/5/2016 1:32 PM
GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Rolo doesn't fit the way the game is played? I couldn't disagree more. There isn't one way the game is played. If you're playing well on both ends of the court, you're helping your team. Right now we should be playing Ro Lo 35+ minutes--hes our best player. His numbers at 35 minutes are worthy of playing him 35 minutes. RIP Crushalot😞
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