D.Fisher and our Knicks have a team full of inconsistent players that don't always show up with their A game or in our case they don't even always show up with their B game, so he has to find the players that have decided to bring their best game on that night and the only way to do that is to play them to see if they're feeling it or not. We have a lot of average players and very little good/great players so every night Fisher has to find the right rotations to put in for the starters while playing the matchups with the other teams 2nd unit and i completely understand that it get annoying when the rotation he puts out there doesn't work out, but if he knew it wasn't gonna work out then he wouldn't be putting that rotation out there so he has to make in game changes or call a timeout to make the correct changes which i think is something he does well.

Because i like to defend Fisher on the gameday threads when those certain people start complaining about him which usually starts by the 2nd page or 3rd page if we're lucky i get judged as being someone who thinks Fisher is a great coach which couldn't be further from the truth. I think Fisher is a average coach that has a chance to be a good coach if he's still around when we actually have talent on this team other than just Melo, KP6 who hasn't been playing well since his illness and still makes a lot of stupid rookie mistakes and Rolo who's not a great center but he's good enough to win with once we get some better players on this team. Every other player is a bench player only, but we have to give some of them big minutes cause we're lacking in talent and this is the team that Fisher has to choose out of every night to find the players that have their games going good and last night none of them really had their games going good besides Sasha and Rolo. A.Afflalo was good in the 1st half and horrible when we needed him in the 2nd half and Melo and KP were off as well.

So the reason why i'm making this D.Fisher thread is because in the gameday threads i get a little carried away with my defending of Fisher and Calderon and other things with my Knicks when people say stupid stuff but i truly love my Knicks just like i love all my sports teams. I'm sure my arguments/debates get annoying to the other posters on the gameday threads to have to see these back and forths i have with those certain 3/4 posters so i apologize to whichever of you that get annoyed by it. I can't say it will stop because i don't think those certain people have what it takes to see the whole picture of what Fisher or Calderon do for this team but i'll try to keep my cool as much as i can.

newyorker4ever wrote:So every gameday thread i get into pretty heated debates with like 3 or 4 certain people on here and it's mostly about D.Fisher. Every gameday thread they cry and whine about how bad of a head coach Fisher is every time he puts a player or a rotation on the floor that doesn't work out for the team at that time but they just can't get it through their heads that that's just how it goes for a head coach and EVERY single head coach in the NBA will put a player or players on the court that don't work out and this happens in a big percentage of EVERY coaches games. This isn't just a D.Fisher thing but those certain people don't seem to understand that. The head coach doesn't know how a player is gonna produce when he puts him on the floor until that player or players get out there and he can see what he does and then he can decide what to do with that player or those players, but when it doesn't work those certain people go crazy saying he should never have put that players or players out there which is pretty easy to do after you get to see what they do.

D.Fisher and our Knicks have a team full of inconsistent players that don't always show up with their A game or in our case they don't even always show up with their B game, so he has to find the players that have decided to bring their best game on that night and the only way to do that is to play them to see if they're feeling it or not. We have a lot of average players and very little good/great players so every night Fisher has to find the right rotations to put in for the starters while playing the matchups with the other teams 2nd unit and i completely understand that it get annoying when the rotation he puts out there doesn't work out, but if he knew it wasn't gonna work out then he wouldn't be putting that rotation out there so he has to make in game changes or call a timeout to make the correct changes which i think is something he does well.

Because i like to defend Fisher on the gameday threads when those certain people start complaining about him which usually starts by the 2nd page or 3rd page if we're lucky i get judged as being someone who thinks Fisher is a great coach which couldn't be further from the truth. I think Fisher is a average coach that has a chance to be a good coach if he's still around when we actually have talent on this team other than just Melo, KP6 who hasn't been playing well since his illness and still makes a lot of stupid rookie mistakes and Rolo who's not a great center but he's good enough to win with once we get some better players on this team. Every other player is a bench player only, but we have to give some of them big minutes cause we're lacking in talent and this is the team that Fisher has to choose out of every night to find the players that have their games going good and last night none of them really had their games going good besides Sasha and Rolo. A.Afflalo was good in the 1st half and horrible when we needed him in the 2nd half and Melo and KP were off as well.

So the reason why i'm making this D.Fisher thread is because in the gameday threads i get a little carried away with my defending of Fisher and Calderon and other things with my Knicks when people say stupid stuff but i truly love my Knicks just like i love all my sports teams. I'm sure my arguments/debates get annoying to the other posters on the gameday threads to have to see these back and forths i have with those certain 3/4 posters so i apologize to whichever of you that get annoyed by it. I can't say it will stop because i don't think those certain people have what it takes to see the whole picture of what Fisher or Calderon do for this team but i'll try to keep my cool as much as i can.

Melo is going to drop off and go into oblivion soon. He was btched all over the floor by a very good player in Crowder--hes going to be 32 coming up and the players just keep coming in younger bigger faster.

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:So every gameday thread i get into pretty heated debates with like 3 or 4 certain people on here and it's mostly about D.Fisher. Every gameday thread they cry and whine about how bad of a head coach Fisher is every time he puts a player or a rotation on the floor that doesn't work out for the team at that time but they just can't get it through their heads that that's just how it goes for a head coach and EVERY single head coach in the NBA will put a player or players on the court that don't work out and this happens in a big percentage of EVERY coaches games. This isn't just a D.Fisher thing but those certain people don't seem to understand that. The head coach doesn't know how a player is gonna produce when he puts him on the floor until that player or players get out there and he can see what he does and then he can decide what to do with that player or those players, but when it doesn't work those certain people go crazy saying he should never have put that players or players out there which is pretty easy to do after you get to see what they do.

D.Fisher and our Knicks have a team full of inconsistent players that don't always show up with their A game or in our case they don't even always show up with their B game, so he has to find the players that have decided to bring their best game on that night and the only way to do that is to play them to see if they're feeling it or not. We have a lot of average players and very little good/great players so every night Fisher has to find the right rotations to put in for the starters while playing the matchups with the other teams 2nd unit and i completely understand that it get annoying when the rotation he puts out there doesn't work out, but if he knew it wasn't gonna work out then he wouldn't be putting that rotation out there so he has to make in game changes or call a timeout to make the correct changes which i think is something he does well.

Because i like to defend Fisher on the gameday threads when those certain people start complaining about him which usually starts by the 2nd page or 3rd page if we're lucky i get judged as being someone who thinks Fisher is a great coach which couldn't be further from the truth. I think Fisher is a average coach that has a chance to be a good coach if he's still around when we actually have talent on this team other than just Melo, KP6 who hasn't been playing well since his illness and still makes a lot of stupid rookie mistakes and Rolo who's not a great center but he's good enough to win with once we get some better players on this team. Every other player is a bench player only, but we have to give some of them big minutes cause we're lacking in talent and this is the team that Fisher has to choose out of every night to find the players that have their games going good and last night none of them really had their games going good besides Sasha and Rolo. A.Afflalo was good in the 1st half and horrible when we needed him in the 2nd half and Melo and KP were off as well.

So the reason why i'm making this D.Fisher thread is because in the gameday threads i get a little carried away with my defending of Fisher and Calderon and other things with my Knicks when people say stupid stuff but i truly love my Knicks just like i love all my sports teams. I'm sure my arguments/debates get annoying to the other posters on the gameday threads to have to see these back and forths i have with those certain 3/4 posters so i apologize to whichever of you that get annoyed by it. I can't say it will stop because i don't think those certain people have what it takes to see the whole picture of what Fisher or Calderon do for this team but i'll try to keep my cool as much as i can.

Melo is going to drop off and go into oblivion soon. He was btched all over the floor by a very good player in Crowder--hes going to be 32 coming up and the players just keep coming in younger bigger faster.

Why are you posting this in this thread??

You stay the cousre through the ups and downs, thats what good coaches do. Phil didnt even call a time out when his team was down, and it's been well documented. Fisher fcks with the rotation too much..It's embarrassing

knicks1248 wrote:you just dont going reaching for the 12th man on the bench because of foul trouble..Look at d lee , kelly olynx had 3 fouls in the 1st qtr and brad kept him in the game despite having quality depth at the position.

You stay the cousre through the ups and downs, thats what good coaches do. Phil didnt even call a time out when his team was down, and it's been well documented. Fisher fcks with the rotation too much..It's embarrassing

You answered you're own question on why Olynk didn't go to the bench with 3 fould....cause he has so much quality depth if he did end up fouling out. They have Sullinger, A.Johnson, Zeller, D.Lee and olynk.

Fish got handed a 37 win team that had Bargs, Melo and Jose injured. Only Bargs finished the season.

Nalod wrote:Fish was hired on his potential. Have a guy that can develop while the roster evolves.
Many great coach's got off to rocky starts. Sometimes its the roster given that is the major cause.

Fish got handed a 37 win team that had Bargs, Melo and Jose injured. Only Bargs finished the season.

He has these guys playing hard every night even when they're down by 20 in the 4th quarter these guys still play hard. As long as Phil is good with Fisher as our head coach i'm good with him. If Phil decides to go a different way and move on from Fisher i'm fine with that as well.

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Fish was hired on his potential. Have a guy that can develop while the roster evolves.
Many great coach's got off to rocky starts. Sometimes its the roster given that is the major cause.

Fish got handed a 37 win team that had Bargs, Melo and Jose injured. Only Bargs finished the season.

and has show little improvement, with a much improve roster..cut it out

Nalod and Newyork4ever must be related to Fisher. It is either that or they are Nets fans:))))

newyorker4ever wrote:

teamsport72 wrote:Why would you run two deciding plays for your alleged sharpshooter who is clearly having an off night (5/15), when you have at least two hot/legitimate alternatives on the floor? Why do you do that to be taken to OT and eventually lose? How this qualifies you as an up and coming great coach? How come you keep making silly calls like that all year, having cost the team at least 4-5 close losses on your dignified own?

If he had esp he would know who to put on the court or who to give the last shot to but he doesn't and who's to say that if any other player would of taken the last shot they also would of missed and you'd be saying the same exact thing about Fisher?? It's just ridiculous what you guys say on here sometimes.

I would be ok with hot Gallo or decent KP missing those two last shots, but not ok with AA, who had been struggling all night against physical defenses and throwing up all kinds of ballerina crapshots :-)