I think one major major move would be starting Galloway full time and using Grant as his backup, with Calderon as the 3rd string.
The other move would be to find a player at the wing who can get some steals, force some turnovers. Porzingis can do it in the current starting 5. Outside of him? Not really.

We're not built to be a team that can score 105+ every night. The alternative to what I'm suggesting is to play at a higher pace, such that even if you allow alot of shots on your basket, you take many shots against your opponent. We're more of a shot milking team, that wants to lead the league in passes per possession (last time I checked we were #1 thing in this stat).

Feel the move right now is to bring in some defensive help to the starting 5/core rotation. Time's running out on this season in terms of trying to make the playoffs. Already at 26 losses. To make the playoffs (which I've never set the standard for this team) we'll need to win something like 22 out of the remaining 34 game. Going to be awfully tough if we don't improve our defense. Defense has to be a priority, as the team just isn't built to score 105+ a night on a consistent basis. The major move Fisher has to make if there is no trade is to at the very least give Galloway/Grant minutes ahead of Calderon. And also cut down minutes of Afflalo at 2, because he's not someone that can stay ahead of his man on a consistent basis or rotate as fast Grant/Galloway. While Calderon and Afflalo are the more reliable consistent players on offense, we've seen that as the season has wore on, they are starting to wear down and our defense is slipping.

Considering this is a longterm project anyway, giving minutes to Grant/Galloway in the backcourt (say 24-26 minutes a piece) would help on our defensive skill level AND give them time to develop. Longterm Calderon/Afflalo won't be our starters or core players anyway. I don't know if Fish sees it this way, but I felt real good about the effort from Gallo and Grant last night. They've shown they are NBA caliber and ready. Once Melo/KP return to health, we have enough offense to get us by. We need guys like Grant/Gallo that can push the ball for easy baskets, defend their man, rotate on D, and also develop experience for the future as we will likely bringing them back for a few years vs Calderon/Afflalo who may not be here beyond 1 more season.

I hear you but playing Jose isnt hurting anyone's development. If LG or Grant start playing better and more consistent you see their minutes go up. I think its that simple.

Making trades isn't easy to do. You don't just say you need to get better at a position and just go out that day and find a better player cause there's so much that goes into making a trade let alone a successful trade. I also hope you don't really see this team winning 22 out of the next 34 games cause that isn't happening unless Melo comes back 100% healthy and stays 100% healthy and i don't see that happening. If there was any other teams looking to trade for DW or LT or KOQ then they're probably not looking as hard at them after last nights game. DW showed us why he's not a starting player and why he's still just that energy guy to come off the bench and only when he's not being counted on to be our top scorer cause that pressure eats him up. Now i'm not saying he can't grow into that but as of now he's not that.

When I try it on chicks, they really don't care. My guy friends are really impressed but chicks are not into it. They want to talk about sex, cars, and if I like to do a threesome. Of course I like a threesome, and then I go into the triangle offense and how that can work better if we had a real PG!!!! I mean Triangle is three sides, right?

Usually one of the girls has a boyfriend so then I tell them about the Fish and Matt Barnes and how the Brocode was broken there!!!! I dunno, they seem to not dig that kind of talk!
My brofriends, they just stop chewing their food and stare at me when these girls are hitting on mr and I guess they are just in super amazing awe of my knick knowledge!!!!

Nalod wrote:Man, so many good trades to discuss with friends.
I do this when eating pancakes at the diner and because of my conviction my friends think I am some how connected and highly impressed!
With the clarity of hindsight I come across as an expert, like on TV!!!!
Often, I start a comment, then finish chewing leaving them hanging on my word, take a sip of coffee then lean back in the booth and with reverence speak to which trade's I'd make and why.
Given what was seen the night before, it really resonates with them!!! We lose a game and discuss how we need better defensive players!!

When I try it on chicks, they really don't care. My guy friends are really impressed but chicks are not into it. They want to talk about sex, cars, and if I like to do a threesome. Of course I like a threesome, and then I go into the triangle offense and how that can work better if we had a real PG!!!! I mean Triangle is three sides, right?

Usually one of the girls has a boyfriend so then I tell them about the Fish and Matt Barnes and how the Brocode was broken there!!!! I dunno, they seem to not dig that kind of talk!
My brofriends, they just stop chewing their food and stare at me when these girls are hitting on mr and I guess they are just in super amazing awe of my knick knowledge!!!!

Chandler wrote:

Nalod wrote:Man, so many good trades to discuss with friends.
I do this when eating pancakes at the diner and because of my conviction my friends think I am some how connected and highly impressed!
With the clarity of hindsight I come across as an expert, like on TV!!!!
Often, I start a comment, then finish chewing leaving them hanging on my word, take a sip of coffee then lean back in the booth and with reverence speak to which trade's I'd make and why.
Given what was seen the night before, it really resonates with them!!! We lose a game and discuss how we need better defensive players!!

When I try it on chicks, they really don't care. My guy friends are really impressed but chicks are not into it. They want to talk about sex, cars, and if I like to do a threesome. Of course I like a threesome, and then I go into the triangle offense and how that can work better if we had a real PG!!!! I mean Triangle is three sides, right?

Usually one of the girls has a boyfriend so then I tell them about the Fish and Matt Barnes and how the Brocode was broken there!!!! I dunno, they seem to not dig that kind of talk!
My brofriends, they just stop chewing their food and stare at me when these girls are hitting on mr and I guess they are just in super amazing awe of my knick knowledge!!!!

when the chicks are talking about threesome, is it with 2 guys?

"My guy friends are really impressed but chicks are not into it. They want to talk about sex, cars, and if I like to do a threesome"

The implication here is "Guys" are impressed with Knick talk, but chicks are not. "THEY" want to talk about............

newyorker4ever wrote:This exact team we have now was playing great until Melo stepped on the refs foot and hurt his ankle/knee. We had everything going good for us before that happened and everyone was on here loving what they were seeing. I'm not sure if you're watching the whole games but Grant isn't doing anything to deserve more minutes unless you're just looking more for him to get experience than you care about us winning?? Gallo is absolutely playing his way into more minutes and would have no problem with him taking over the starting point guard spot but Calderon would be the #2. KOQ's defense is just horrible and in the post game show they were showing plays where players were driving right to him with the ball and he made no attempt to even put his hands up let alone try to play any defense at all so i do think we need a better defending big that we can play at the PF spot when KP plays the 5 or can play the 5 when R.Lopez needs to rest. This team needs a point guard and there's no way around that if you ask me so i definitely disagree with you on that.

Making trades isn't easy to do. You don't just say you need to get better at a position and just go out that day and find a better player cause there's so much that goes into making a trade let alone a successful trade. I also hope you don't really see this team winning 22 out of the next 34 games cause that isn't happening unless Melo comes back 100% healthy and stays 100% healthy and i don't see that happening. If there was any other teams looking to trade for DW or LT or KOQ then they're probably not looking as hard at them after last nights game. DW showed us why he's not a starting player and why he's still just that energy guy to come off the bench and only when he's not being counted on to be our top scorer cause that pressure eats him up. Now i'm not saying he can't grow into that but as of now he's not that.

Dude, we all know the little success we were getting before Carmelo's injury was unsustainable. Many of us have been begging for a change in the back court and stability with the rotation; because we knew and anticipated that injury was going to strike and derail us; specifically, if many of the players were lacking in confidence due to a lack of consistent playing time.

We need an upgrade at back court; and that has been evident for almost a decade now.

The Calderon starting experiment should end. I like Jose, I really do. I think we need to use him for the bench. You see how the bench is a mess just now (although Fisher did use a retarded lineup of Amudson as the anchor). Calderon will help the 2nd unit more to organize them.

nyknickzingis wrote:Anyone notice the defensive impact of having Galloway at 1 instead of Calderon? The extra length and foot speed allowed the Knicks to play far better defense. I still want Calderon on the team. I'm not one of those guys that wants Calderon off or thinks he sucks. He has a real positive influence on the team. However we have to give Galloway the opportunity now to do this for a while. He's got to get 8-10 starts with a full strength team (Melo/KP both playing) and see how he does. Mainly how we do on defense. If it all works out like I'd like, we can use Grant and Calderon on the 2nd unit backcourt. Calderon's very comfortable playing a 2 guard role on offense since he can shoot 3's.

Our rotation should go like this:

Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Afflalo/Galloway
Lopez/Williams/Melo/Grant/Calderon
Porzingis/Williams/Thomas/Afflalo/Calderon or Grant

Close the half with Porzingis/Melo and 3 best players of the half or match up wise.

Oh my! One has to be a fool not to notice the difference. I have been calling for the change since before the start of the season. If Calderon was truly a team player, he himself should have forced the coach to replace him in the starting 5. He claims he wants to mentor the youngins, which is all and good, but he needs to voluntarily cede his spot to one of them

nyknickzingis wrote:Calderon is one of the most positive uplifting players on the team. The entire passing Melo you see now, it's a process that only would have happened with teammates like Jose. He lifts everyone up. He's a leader in many ways. However he should be playing 20 minutes a game, tops. Galloway is ready to be the 5th option for the starters and bring the ball up, and look to push the ball whenever he can. If we were running a pick and roll heavy offense or an offense where the point guard was relied on for calling set plays, organizing it all out there, yes Gallo would be a bad choice over Jose. In this offense, he's a natural fit. Especially for his length and athleticism advantage on defense.

The only downside I see is Galloway will command a ton of money in the summer as a restricted free agent if he finishes the season as a starter and does well.

Why is paying the dude an issue? Last I checked, the Knicks are valued at 2+billions. He is one of our product, I would be happy to see us keep the dude

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Calderon is one of the most positive uplifting players on the team. The entire passing Melo you see now, it's a process that only would have happened with teammates like Jose. He lifts everyone up. He's a leader in many ways. However he should be playing 20 minutes a game, tops. Galloway is ready to be the 5th option for the starters and bring the ball up, and look to push the ball whenever he can. If we were running a pick and roll heavy offense or an offense where the point guard was relied on for calling set plays, organizing it all out there, yes Gallo would be a bad choice over Jose. In this offense, he's a natural fit. Especially for his length and athleticism advantage on defense.

The only downside I see is Galloway will command a ton of money in the summer as a restricted free agent if he finishes the season as a starter and does well.

Why is paying the dude an issue? Last I checked, the Knicks are valued at 2+billions. He is one of our product, I would be happy to see us keep the dude

Under normal circumstances, yes. The Knicks are well off enough where they can max out 3 players, and spend a ton on support players. However that is what you do when you have the finished product. NY is still looking for a new starter, if not two. And that'll only come through free agency. If we pay guys like Galloway, Williams, Thomas - and I want to keep all 3 - it really hurts who they can sign in free agency in 2017 and 2016. The next 2 summers the Knicks can be players in the free agent market, and with the sort of competitive team they've been and some young talent like Porzingis, free agents will be far more interested in coming. It's important to keep those opportunities available. I wouldn't want to lose out on possibly a Westbrook in 2017 or someone like that because we gave Galloway 7 million a year (Just throwing an example). I'd like to keep Galloway, Williams and Thomas but think it will be hard to do that and still be a player in free agency for the all-star free agents.