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WaltLongmire wrote:

martin wrote:I don't watch too much outside of Knicks games so I am just clueless on this but do OK4, Towns, Russel, etc. have highlights like this? Unworldly plays that just make you jump out of your seat when you see it in game? Am I missing some YouTubes?

KP seems to have something that boggles the mind about ever 4th or 5th game. 10 feet behind the 3 point line? Done. Dunk over an entire front line? Done. Dream Shake (slow-mo style)? Done. Curl play for a 7-footer? Done. Swat out of nowhere? Done. Come from the other side of the rim and dunk? Done. What am I missing?

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Towns and OK4 are much more consistent on the offensive end...and Towns is clearly pulling away in the ROY race at this point, IMO.

Strangely enough, the KP phenomena shows us what the general fan seems to look at when evaluating players.

As Knicks' fans, we are always going to look at our guys differently, and I sometimes cringe when our posters minimize the accomplishments of a guy like Towns, but KP6 has been a human highlight reel so far this year, and the ESPN highlight mill and the Twitterverse allow the nation to see this skinny white Euro kid who was embarrassed on draft night, do the Latvian Superman thing in almost every game he plays in, even as he plays with the inconsistency of a rookie and a kid who is clearly still a kid, physically.

I've seen Towns do some pretty special things, but rarely does he do the out of the world stuff we see from KP6, and although Towns is a good shot blocker, he rarely has the spectacular and dramatic blocks we see from Porzingis. The sheer extension and the hand/eye coordination he has for a guy his size is pretty ridiculous.

If we had known KP could do this type of stuff on D before the draft, that crazy "The Case for WCS" thread would have died an early death, since they only thing supposedly in Stein's favor was his shot blocking ability.

I am hoping, though, that Kristaps can become boringly consistent on the offensive end at some point...something that will only happen when he tightens up and simplifies his interior game.

KP's highlight reel should be pretty interesting by the end of the year, but if he can become more consistent the second half of the season and the Knicks can squeeze into the playoffs while the T-Wolves look at another high lottery pick, he should have a shot at ROY.

Meanwhile the Knicks are in a playoff race and KP's role on the Knicks has been pivotal in their turnaround in the win loss column. Towns is an amazing prospect. I outlined the doubts and red flags and he has smashed them all. He's great and whether he wins ROY or not he's a great #1 pick. If the draft was a do-over it would be 1 and 1A between KP/Towns with no wrong choice.

Of course I am biased but I think what KP is doing is more impressive. There is no fly under the radar, focus on fundamentals, etc... KP's production is critical to a fringe playoff team coming off a 17 win season and I think that counts for something.

martin wrote:I don't watch too much outside of Knicks games so I am just clueless on this but do OK4, Towns, Russel, etc. have highlights like this? Unworldly plays that just make you jump out of your seat when you see it in game? Am I missing some YouTubes?

KP seems to have something that boggles the mind about ever 4th or 5th game. 10 feet behind the 3 point line? Done. Dunk over an entire front line? Done. Dream Shake (slow-mo style)? Done. Curl play for a 7-footer? Done. Swat out of nowhere? Done. Come from the other side of the rim and dunk? Done. What am I missing?

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jump hook consistency.

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fishmike wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

martin wrote:I don't watch too much outside of Knicks games so I am just clueless on this but do OK4, Towns, Russel, etc. have highlights like this? Unworldly plays that just make you jump out of your seat when you see it in game? Am I missing some YouTubes?

KP seems to have something that boggles the mind about ever 4th or 5th game. 10 feet behind the 3 point line? Done. Dunk over an entire front line? Done. Dream Shake (slow-mo style)? Done. Curl play for a 7-footer? Done. Swat out of nowhere? Done. Come from the other side of the rim and dunk? Done. What am I missing?

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Towns and OK4 are much more consistent on the offensive end...and Towns is clearly pulling away in the ROY race at this point, IMO.

Strangely enough, the KP phenomena shows us what the general fan seems to look at when evaluating players.

As Knicks' fans, we are always going to look at our guys differently, and I sometimes cringe when our posters minimize the accomplishments of a guy like Towns, but KP6 has been a human highlight reel so far this year, and the ESPN highlight mill and the Twitterverse allow the nation to see this skinny white Euro kid who was embarrassed on draft night, do the Latvian Superman thing in almost every game he plays in, even as he plays with the inconsistency of a rookie and a kid who is clearly still a kid, physically.

I've seen Towns do some pretty special things, but rarely does he do the out of the world stuff we see from KP6, and although Towns is a good shot blocker, he rarely has the spectacular and dramatic blocks we see from Porzingis. The sheer extension and the hand/eye coordination he has for a guy his size is pretty ridiculous.

If we had known KP could do this type of stuff on D before the draft, that crazy "The Case for WCS" thread would have died an early death, since they only thing supposedly in Stein's favor was his shot blocking ability.

I am hoping, though, that Kristaps can become boringly consistent on the offensive end at some point...something that will only happen when he tightens up and simplifies his interior game.

KP's highlight reel should be pretty interesting by the end of the year, but if he can become more consistent the second half of the season and the Knicks can squeeze into the playoffs while the T-Wolves look at another high lottery pick, he should have a shot at ROY.

this is my take. Its normal for ROY to be on a bad team. Simple math... high level prospect coming onto a bad team is going to be allowed to play through his mistakes while being productive. Towns has been #s, but not by a ton. The Wolves started the season well, Rubio was playing amazing ball and they were 8-8 with some very impressive wins. Since starting 8-8 they are 6-24 which is a factor. They are now in the realm of meaningless games.

Meanwhile the Knicks are in a playoff race and KP's role on the Knicks has been pivotal in their turnaround in the win loss column. Towns is an amazing prospect. I outlined the doubts and red flags and he has smashed them all. He's great and whether he wins ROY or not he's a great #1 pick. If the draft was a do-over it would be 1 and 1A between KP/Towns with no wrong choice.

Of course I am biased but I think what KP is doing is more impressive. There is no fly under the radar, focus on fundamentals, etc... KP's production is critical to a fringe playoff team coming off a 17 win season and I think that counts for something.

Also, the Knicks are legit trying to win. Minnesota is somewhere between trying to win and develop Towns and Wiggins and Levine. Towns gets a lot more shot attempts during the course of the game than KP.

Though I will say that Towns has the far more polished offensive game. His post moves are silky smooth. KP is a work in progress on that end - but for once, a work in progress who actually is progressing and working his butt at it.

KP is miles ahead of Towns on the defensive end though.

And in terms of "WOW" plays - KP is off the charts compared to any other rookie I've seen.

Myles Turner

WaltLongmire wrote:

fishmike wrote:whatever happened to "we should have drafted Mudiay" holfresh?

I expect he's lurking around somewhere... maybe even posting under another name.

Frustrating guy, but I thought he added to the mix. Couldn't give the Latvian much credit for anything other than his height, though.

Got to get Porzingis to give holfresh a jersey and take a photo with him like he did with the little crying Knicks boy.

maybe that crying boy was Hol's son?

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martin wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

fishmike wrote:whatever happened to "we should have drafted Mudiay" holfresh?

I expect he's lurking around somewhere... maybe even posting under another name.

Frustrating guy, but I thought he added to the mix. Couldn't give the Latvian much credit for anything other than his height, though.

Got to get Porzingis to give holfresh a jersey and take a photo with him like he did with the little crying Knicks boy.

maybe that crying boy was Hol's son?

haha yea right??? I agree Walt... drove me nuts but "added to the mix" is a great way to put it. He's missed. Hopefully he stops in so we can blast him with Zinger in his face errr... pure KNicks love

I miss him. He was so entertaining and of course always on the wrong side of right but stubborn as a mule. He would be leading the charge now of how melo has not changed at all.