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Paris907
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1/26/2016  10:25 PM
Can the Knicks swing him under the cap and if he did do we have enough backcourt to win 50 plus games. If Calderon is gone under stretch provision do we have enough? I think Galloway, Fisher, KP Afflalo and Lopez all provide great complimentary players that are better than OKC bench. Thus, with Melo not needing the ball as much, and KP a rising star, could this become a offseason reality?

Backcourt: grant Galloway Afflalo and??

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1/26/2016  10:44 PM
It won't matter not with the garbage we have in the backcourt
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1/26/2016  10:54 PM
Lmao hell no. Why would OKC do that?
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/26/2016  11:06 PM
You probably could get a team with capspace to take Calderon this summer. He's easily still a very good veteran point guard to have, a coach's pick type, and with so many teams have massive amounts of capspace, a salary dump will be quite easy. I think we'd be able to get a 2nd round pick even. However I'd only do that if I got verbal agreements from free agents.

Durant isn't coming to a lottery team with a prime star in decline. Melo is being paid 25, 27, 28 million over the next 3 years and he's not shown great health or value as a player. He's far better off sticking with Westbrook.

I do think we can make a great case for the advantages - one being that if you add him to the roster instead of Afflalo/Calderon, with Galloway/Grant as PG's, you're likely the 2nd best team in the East. In the East with KD added to Melo/KP in NY, we'd be in line to make a Finals run right away. In the West, got to go through Golden State, San Antonio, Clippers. Been hard for them. Since Harden left, they haven't been back to the Finals. Then you could make a case of being the next Pippen/Jordan with Melo/KD. Another case, NY market and being the man in NY - bringing success back here what it does for you. Next up, KP. Porzingis is only scratching the potential of what he can do. Finally, Fisher. He has a great relationship with Fish. Trust with a coach. What would Jordan and Kobe be without Triangle culture and Phil Jackson? Ringless possibly.

I see it as a long shot, unlikely. We should definitely go all out and try though. The killer for us is the standings. Even though NY is much improved, we're in a tough spot to make the playoffs. Durant isn't going to feel all giddy about joining a team that won 36-40 games, finished 10th in the East from being 3rd in the West and having won 55 games. No matter what he thinks of Porzingis, Phil, and Fisher I don't see him making that jump.

I do think he would be great great fit in the Triangle. Everything that is wrong with his pairing with Westbrook is solved with what is done with the Triangle. And defensively, the versatility of having Porzingis, Durant and Melo up front with Grant and Galloway in the back, would be something.

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1/26/2016  11:10 PM
STOP! dont buy into the media madness. each time the opponent plays the knicks, they always talk about potential free agents and trades.
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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1/26/2016  11:33 PM
No......

Also where does he fit next to Melo?

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1/27/2016  2:54 AM
Durant will most certainly fit on this team. He can start games at the 2 if Lopez remains the starter at C. The front line would eventually be Durant Melo & Poringis..unstoppable (especially in today's NBA)
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1/27/2016  5:00 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:Lmao hell no. Why would OKC do that?

Why would OKC do what?
Durant is goint to be a FA.

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1/27/2016  6:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/27/2016  6:23 AM
TLover wrote:Durant will most certainly fit on this team. He can start games at the 2 if Lopez remains the starter at C. The front line would eventually be Durant Melo & Poringis..unstoppable (especially in today's NBA)

Yeah, Durant could play 3 positions. I wouldn't worry for a second about him fitting with Melo. Melo has always played his best at PF anyway. The only way I could see us becoming a contender after this off-season is if we get Durant and KP improves a lot.

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1/27/2016  7:21 AM
Durants team - Melo, Lopez, KP,
Afflalo Williams Galloway Grant
Lance. That's the rotation more or less

That competes very favorably with Cleveland and
Would beat out Toronto.

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1/27/2016  7:51 AM
Durant is great but he is not a fit for the KNicks unless Melo is leaving.

Westbrook is the player NY needs.

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1/27/2016  9:06 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/27/2016  9:07 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Durant is great but he is not a fit for the KNicks unless Melo is leaving.

Westbrook is the player NY needs.


I couldn't disagree more (respectfully). I would never hesitate to add two multi-position all-stars who want to play together. I think the players' attitudes and decision-making (especially shot selection) matter much more than the position label they have.
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1/27/2016  9:55 AM
Durant can easily play SG in this system. So can Melo. So can KP. On defense it means they have to guard smaller guys. It also means we can force teams to beat us with the jumper every night.

No way it happens but it would be pretty wild.

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1/27/2016  9:59 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:You probably could get a team with capspace to take Calderon this summer. He's easily still a very good veteran point guard to have, a coach's pick type, and with so many teams have massive amounts of capspace, a salary dump will be quite easy. I think we'd be able to get a 2nd round pick even. However I'd only do that if I got verbal agreements from free agents.

Durant isn't coming to a lottery team with a prime star in decline. Melo is being paid 25, 27, 28 million over the next 3 years and he's not shown great health or value as a player. He's far better off sticking with Westbrook.

I do think we can make a great case for the advantages - one being that if you add him to the roster instead of Afflalo/Calderon, with Galloway/Grant as PG's, you're likely the 2nd best team in the East. In the East with KD added to Melo/KP in NY, we'd be in line to make a Finals run right away. In the West, got to go through Golden State, San Antonio, Clippers. Been hard for them. Since Harden left, they haven't been back to the Finals. Then you could make a case of being the next Pippen/Jordan with Melo/KD. Another case, NY market and being the man in NY - bringing success back here what it does for you. Next up, KP. Porzingis is only scratching the potential of what he can do. Finally, Fisher. He has a great relationship with Fish. Trust with a coach. What would Jordan and Kobe be without Triangle culture and Phil Jackson? Ringless possibly.

I see it as a long shot, unlikely. We should definitely go all out and try though. The killer for us is the standings. Even though NY is much improved, we're in a tough spot to make the playoffs. Durant isn't going to feel all giddy about joining a team that won 36-40 games, finished 10th in the East from being 3rd in the West and having won 55 games. No matter what he thinks of Porzingis, Phil, and Fisher I don't see him making that jump.

I do think he would be great great fit in the Triangle. Everything that is wrong with his pairing
with Westbrook is solved with what is done with the Triangle. And defensively, the versatility of having Porzingis, Durant and Melo up front with Grant and Galloway in the back, would be something.

You say there is no way KD is coming to NY but in the very next paragraph you say that we can make a great case for him to come here? And "we would be the second best team with backcourt of Grant and Galloway"? Wow, from D league caliber players to second best in NBA? As for"where would Jordan and Kobe be without the triangle, ringless?"....wow. I guess probaly on a winless teams? Lebron seems okay without either. Sorry but those are some outlandish comments. And you bag Melo as a deteriorating player but say he could fill the Pippen role? Pretty high expectations if he is in fact on a decline.

As for KD coming here, will agree with you, i think, wont happen. OKC and Washington are closer to winning and he has deeper roots in both. Unfortunate because KD is a great player that would fit in any system. We would have been lucky to get him. No question he would play well next to Melo. We all have to get that Melo is here to stay and that it seems he will play well with any addition to the team. He is finally playing the best team ball of his career.

It will take a lot more than just one player, Im sure Sixer fans, T-wolf fans, etc etc are all saying if they just added KD they would win it all. Ummm.. NO. Lots of changes need to happen for us. I like Galloway bit he has been inconsistent, typical of lower tier players. Grant has looked like a shaking high school kid playing in his first game in front of a crowd and can't hit a 15 foot jumper. Needs a lot of improvement before we name him a starter, let alone one of the best in the league. AA just too one dimensional. We need solid NBA guards that can defend and hit a consistent jump shot. They will be out there and don't have big names or price tags. Need a solid back up center and for Rolo to keep improving on offense. Need KP to keep improving as well and not settling for threes. His body will hopefully build up and his post up game needs improvement. Better consistent outside shooter for second unit. Etc. We need lots of things but good news is, think we are headed in the right direction.

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1/27/2016  10:08 AM
Durant's not coming here. Just let it go.
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1/27/2016  12:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/27/2016  12:47 PM
Melo: What up dog! You down for Rio this summer?
KD: Im on it.
Melo: What you think of the UniCorn?
KD: Maybe phil should not make any trades that eat cap. Yah dig?
Melo: Solid?
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The Russian got money, as does Malibu! Y'all do what you gotta do, but I'd sleep on it.
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1/27/2016  12:55 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Durant is great but he is not a fit for the KNicks unless Melo is leaving.

Westbrook is the player NY needs.


I couldn't disagree more (respectfully). I would never hesitate to add two multi-position all-stars who want to play together. I think the players' attitudes and decision-making (especially shot selection) matter much more than the position label they have.

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1/27/2016  1:00 PM
a S&T isn't possible... dumping someone for an expiring would be possible. I don't know if any other team has capspace but I could see the Knicks trading KOQ or Seraphin for a second... something like that
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1/27/2016  1:42 PM
crzymdups wrote:Durant's not coming here. Just let it go.

i'm kind of in this camp, though i do dream a little

Durant supposedly likes Fisher. Not sure how we make it happen in FA but holy smokes that would be awesome.

Phil needs to throw his rings on the table, followed by Fish, Cleamons, Rambis. There must be like 40 or 50 there

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1/27/2016  1:43 PM
And, if Phil makes this happen, I'm renaming my 4 year old daughter to "Phil"
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