You do make a good point Smooth

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Even though it would be blasphamy to have Pippen put on the orange and blue, I'd do this deal in a minute based on his expiring contract. Isiah's smart to ask for Pip instead. I guess I'd be able to stomache of season of Scottie. After all, we had to stomache Luc Longley for a season (barely). But, if this article is acurate (which may or may not be the case) I'd hope it goes through. Does Pax bite on that though?

As far as Dampier, I really think he and his agent screwed up. There was obviously a point where New York and Golden State agreed on a deal and were waiting for him to ok it. Whether that was acurate or not is another story. But assuming it is, that was obviously his best option so far. He and his agent decided to take their sweet time and taste all the fruits of free agency....meanwhile Golden State moved on. Now he finds out that Atl is only offering a 3 year deal? LOL THey obviously know his options are not where they once were. Now, possibly the Knicks and Warriors will not be able to complete that sign and trade that was once on the table. He and his agent screwed up! Only hope for them is he goes to the Pacers or Memphis which wasn't too high on their lists. Oh well!

very good points, jazz player. pippen in our uniform is the biggest slap in the face. but most likely he will be on injured reserve for the rest of the year. so we hopefully will not have to see him on the court with the uni on. images of him dunking over ewing in the playoffs and standing over him glaring is haunting enough. well it looks like we will not get him anyway.

as far as dampier goes, he and his agent thought that they had the upper hand the whole time. they tried to take advantage of the crazy market but did not realized that the main reason why those ridiculous deals were done was because they got them done quickly and efficiently. dampier did not learn that. and now he has to mull over where he is going to play. gs does'nt really care because they can just let him walk. knicks are trying but the deal on the table is not a good one. we do not have many guards with servicible contracts for gs. and atlanta is lowballing. the ultimate coup for isaih is to get crawford and dampier withour giving up the core ( marbury, houston, tt, kt). i have a feeling we may give up kt which is fine with me so sweetney will gat his minutes. but i have a feelinf isaih is holding him out for another deal ( walker?). very interesting month so far but no results. too much leakage to get things done. this is always a problem.

Hell, if Pippen can play a little defense still, he might have some use. If not, let him ride the pine and will deal him at the deadline for a useful part. I don't mind getting him.

As for Dampier, he just might have to pick his choice of full MLE offers at this point. He can take a 1 year deal and try next year, but that might be risky if he comes up empty again. Maybe he takes 6 years so he can have some security and close out his career. He doesn't have much choice unless he wants to go to Atlanta for 3 years. He's the only big name FA who didnt really get what he wanted this offseason. If I were him I'd fire my agent...

he's young, so thats always the hope. Also, did I mention he's NOT shandon anderson?

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

As far as Dampier, I really think he and his agent screwed up. There was obviously a point where New York and Golden State agreed on a deal and were waiting for him to ok it. Whether that was acurate or not is another story. But assuming it is, that was obviously his best option so far. He and his agent decided to take their sweet time and taste all the fruits of free agency....meanwhile Golden State moved on. Now he finds out that Atl is only offering a 3 year deal? LOL THey obviously know his options are not where they once were. Now, possibly the Knicks and Warriors will not be able to complete that sign and trade that was once on the table. He and his agent screwed up! Only hope for them is he goes to the Pacers or Memphis which wasn't too high on their lists. Oh well!

Very true. It looked like the Knicks and the Warrirs had a deal and he would only have to agree to it. His deal was already bigger than the Hawks offer but still he wanted to look around. Not even after knowing that the Hawks' offer was shorter than NY's he trued to get the deal done. He had to consider other options that would probably pay him lower than the Knicks. Being the questionmark he is the deal the Knicks were offering was a steal. He waited and this GS deal caught him by surprise, probably affecting a lot his free-agency tour. Now more than ever Golden State may let him just walk, making all his options non-lucrative ones. The Hawks are intelligent to lowball him, and this may push him to sign for the MLE, and who knows how an underachiever will play feeling that he is not well-paid. It could be a fitting ending for him to sign for the MLE, probably what he deserves.

Posted by fishmike:

this is so typical and just another example of how agents feed bad info to their clients. This is exactly what happened w/ Olowakandi in is restricted year. The Clippers (who never pay) offered him $60mm over 6 years. He want closer to $80. He played for the qualifying offer, was banged up and wound up signing w/ Sota for the MLE. So far he stands to lose about $40mm plus. Good job by that agent.

Greed. They never learn...

The media said we had a deal, BOth parties never said we were close.