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BRIGGS
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1/19/2016  8:27 AM
The guy is just such a great player already. He's very smart he plays hard he cares and now he can impose his will on games. I like that he put himself into position for easy dunks yesterday--he positioned himself very well. The guy is making great passes hes an 85%+ FT shooter rebounding blocking shots I mean what else??? He easily could be the best Knick ever in his prime.
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1/19/2016  8:37 AM
It seemed defenses had figured out they have to always keep a body on him and slap the ball anytime he wanted to drive. This led to an inconsistent December from him on offense. His effort was there. But he wasn't able to get his shots off.

In January he's been on a different level. He's figured out where to get his shots and stepped up his level. Now defenses will once again have to try and figure out what to do. Because in December we weren't seeing him so confident and relaxed in getting his shots off and where to take them. He's benefited greatly from the team running their offense better as he gets the ball more in stronger spots on the court. The team trust him way more now vs a month ago. We're seeing less catch and swing the ball away immediately plays from him and more catch and look to attack.
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1/19/2016  8:55 AM
The thing I like the most about what Kristaps has accomplished this season, is the 2nd time he's seen a team, he makes adjustments to the way they play him.

IE the Atlanta game, San Antonio, Charlotte, Philly

It seems the first game he looks like the rookie with rushed shots and nerves we all expect him to be, then the 2nd game he looks so much more refined and efficient.

That ability to "self-repair" and recognize and make adjustments is the stuff of greatness.
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1/19/2016  10:03 AM
Yep he's really good and only getting better every time he plays.
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1/19/2016  10:07 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/19/2016  10:08 AM
The biggest stride Ive seen lately is in KP's footwork. He's also making himself smaller going to the rim, keeping his center of gravity lower. He's much more comfortable taking it to the rim, and he's pulling up for floaters now instead of getting a charge.
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1/19/2016  11:56 AM
As someone already said, teams are learning to stay within arms reach of KP now. Lean on him and make him use his energy wrestling against bigs. This strategy always works against slim frame shooters, that appear to be weak. Next season and the seasons after next, you will see this strategy will not be as affective. Also, when Melo is out, players don't have to cheat off of KP and play in straight up. But if it's not Melo, I'm sure Phil will always try to pair KP up with another NBA star or two. And when he has space, he will burn you! (shooting, layups, postups, assists, rebounds, blocks, etc). He will probably have a few quadruple doubles before he retires. He just fills up the stat sheet in almost every category....7'3 player who plays 4 positions as a two way player!
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1/19/2016  12:08 PM
if he can only stop chucking 3's
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/19/2016  12:20 PM
mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

Actually, he is one of those players who, and i'm sure many feel the same way, every time he shoots for the three, it feels like its going in. He only takes open shots from the top of the key or the wings. For a player with his shooting ability, that's a high percentage shot. He will be a 40% shooter from three when he gains full confidence.
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mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

Actually, he is one of those players who, and i'm sure many feel the same way, every time he shoots for the three, it feels like its going in. He only takes open shots from the top of the key or the wings. For a player with his shooting ability, that's a high percentage shot. He will be a 40% shooter from three when he gains full confidence.

top of the key is the lowest percentage 3 but I can see why they don't want him in the corner (which is much more efficient 3).

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/19/2016  12:34 PM
BRIGGS wrote:The guy is just such a great player already. He's very smart he plays hard he cares and now he can impose his will on games. I like that he put himself into position for easy dunks yesterday--he positioned himself very well. The guy is making great passes hes an 85%+ FT shooter rebounding blocking shots I mean what else??? He easily could be the best Knick ever in his prime.

KP is the best 20 and under player in the world -- bar NONE. He also has the highest upside of any 20 and under player in the world.
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1/19/2016  1:10 PM
KP's rim protection will be as important to his game as his jumpshot. Having a two way player at center.....Then finding a two way player at PG, would be ideal for Phil's team development. The two most critical positions on the floor.
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mreinman wrote:
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mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

Actually, he is one of those players who, and i'm sure many feel the same way, every time he shoots for the three, it feels like its going in. He only takes open shots from the top of the key or the wings. For a player with his shooting ability, that's a high percentage shot. He will be a 40% shooter from three when he gains full confidence.

top of the key is the lowest percentage 3 but I can see why they don't want him in the corner (which is much more efficient 3).

In my opinion (let me repeat: my opinion) the corner 3 is not the most efficient 3 because it is the shortest shot, it is the most efficient because it is the most unguarded. Most guys do not take contested corner 3s, but they take many contested 3s from the top of the key. I personally think the top of the key is an easier shot, regardless of length. KP doesn't take many contested 3s, so i don't think its an issue.
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1/19/2016  1:34 PM
In a few short yrs he will be better than any big man to every play the game, he will be better then Ewing, hakeem, Robinson, Dirk, or any other 7 footer the NBA has ever seen.

He will have a polished post up game, he will have enough athletisim to do a 180 in the lane for a vicious dunk the pull jumpers, the set jumpers, the speed on defense, timing, passing, everything is going to go up, and there won't be a single person that can guard him one one one because you can double face up jump shooters.


I think him and grant can be a match made in heaven if fisher would stop jerking GRant around with his PT.

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1/19/2016  2:25 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

Actually, he is one of those players who, and i'm sure many feel the same way, every time he shoots for the three, it feels like its going in. He only takes open shots from the top of the key or the wings. For a player with his shooting ability, that's a high percentage shot. He will be a 40% shooter from three when he gains full confidence.

top of the key is the lowest percentage 3 but I can see why they don't want him in the corner (which is much more efficient 3).

In my opinion (let me repeat: my opinion) the corner 3 is not the most efficient 3 because it is the shortest shot, it is the most efficient because it is the most unguarded. Most guys do not take contested corner 3s, but they take many contested 3s from the top of the key. I personally think the top of the key is an easier shot, regardless of length. KP doesn't take many contested 3s, so i don't think its an issue.

This is a lot of data on this and it is not as simple as you are assuming.

Actually the left corner is much higher than the right corner. Probably because most players are righty's.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/19/2016  2:42 PM
From CrushAlot's favorite reporter, Harvey Araton:


Watching the Porzingis phenomenon from afar has been Scott Roth, one of his coaches in Spain last season, who is currently in Shanghai, where he is mentoring a Chinese coach for a team owned by Yao Ming.

Another giant of a man, whose career was ruined by recurring foot injuries, the 7-6 Yao carried around a much heavier frame than Porzingis has brought from Latvia. So Roth, who has been an N.B.A. assistant in various locales, was drawing no comparisons beyond the concept of caution, which he said he spoke to the Knicks about.

“They asked me at the beginning, how much did I think he would be able to play right away?” Roth said in a telephone interview. “I told them that sometimes you just have to watch him, get him out of the gym. He wants so much to be great that he can wear himself down, wanting to do too much.”

Roth added: “I would be concerned with him for that reason. I know how good a kid he is, but sometimes he does want to do too much. All rookies hit a wall, they get tired, and you don’t want him to get hurt.”

Interesting take. Hopefully KP can be an effective gym-rat, and not drive himself too hard. I've seen him on the bench showing some tension after he's played poorly, especially if he's been taken out because of it.

Guy has a ton of pride and, as Brett Brown pointed out yesterday, KP is uber competitive.

I think these things will make him great, but he also has to find a balance in how he goes about doing things.

Still, its nice to have a guy you have to put a leash on to keep from working, rather than a player you have to kick in the ass to do the work to improve himself.

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1/19/2016  6:46 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

Actually, he is one of those players who, and i'm sure many feel the same way, every time he shoots for the three, it feels like its going in. He only takes open shots from the top of the key or the wings. For a player with his shooting ability, that's a high percentage shot. He will be a 40% shooter from three when he gains full confidence.

the funny thing is that his arc from three is oakley-like flat. i can almost foresee him taking threes from further out, with ease.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/19/2016  7:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/19/2016  7:05 PM
mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

He should shoot more.

1/3 is the same as shooting 1.5/3 on 2's. Shooting 50 percent on 2's. It also stretches the defense, and makes them refrain from clogging the paint. He's a good shooter, he needs some time and can shoot 5-6 three pointers from there. I want Porzingis in his prime taking about 16 shots a night, and about 5-6 of them from 3 point land. He needs to get his percentage up and refrain from the heat checks or the 3 pointers he takes too early in the possession. The pick and pop play with Porzingis shooting 3's is a very very effective play. We need a point guard that actually would benefit from a screen setter than can do what Porzingis can do (either not roll, stay back and pop or just straight up roll to the basket). Perhaps Grant can do this next season more consistently.

What can truly make Porzingis lethal as a big man is that he can shoot 3's, he can roll to the basket, he can post up, he can create his own shots in isolations. There isn't a single other big man who can do all of that right now in the league, not at the Center position. In his prime/peak, he should be taking 15-17 shots, and 4-5 three pointers without hesitation. But the 3's need to come from pick and pop plays, and corner shot as well as kick outs. Not as many heat checks.
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dk7th wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

Actually, he is one of those players who, and i'm sure many feel the same way, every time he shoots for the three, it feels like its going in. He only takes open shots from the top of the key or the wings. For a player with his shooting ability, that's a high percentage shot. He will be a 40% shooter from three when he gains full confidence.

the funny thing is that his arc from three is oakley-like flat. i can almost foresee him taking threes from further out, with ease.


His brother Janis, when he saw Dirk shooting before the game they played in the Garden, commented on Dirk's arc and indicated it is something KP would want to work on.
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1/19/2016  8:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/19/2016  8:06 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

He should shoot more.

1/3 is the same as shooting 1.5/3 on 2's. Shooting 50 percent on 2's. It also stretches the defense, and makes them refrain from clogging the paint. He's a good shooter, he needs some time and can shoot 5-6 three pointers from there. I want Porzingis in his prime taking about 16 shots a night, and about 5-6 of them from 3 point land. He needs to get his percentage up and refrain from the heat checks or the 3 pointers he takes too early in the possession. The pick and pop play with Porzingis shooting 3's is a very very effective play. We need a point guard that actually would benefit from a screen setter than can do what Porzingis can do (either not roll, stay back and pop or just straight up roll to the basket). Perhaps Grant can do this next season more consistently.

What can truly make Porzingis lethal as a big man is that he can shoot 3's, he can roll to the basket, he can post up, he can create his own shots in isolations. There isn't a single other big man who can do all of that right now in the league, not at the Center position. In his prime/peak, he should be taking 15-17 shots, and 4-5 three pointers without hesitation. But the 3's need to come from pick and pop plays, and corner shot as well as kick outs. Not as many heat checks.

mreinman would actually be happy to the point of titillation if KP put up 10 3s/game...

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1/19/2016  8:33 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
mreinman wrote:if he can only stop chucking 3's

He should shoot more.

1/3 is the same as shooting 1.5/3 on 2's. Shooting 50 percent on 2's. It also stretches the defense, and makes them refrain from clogging the paint. He's a good shooter, he needs some time and can shoot 5-6 three pointers from there. I want Porzingis in his prime taking about 16 shots a night, and about 5-6 of them from 3 point land. He needs to get his percentage up and refrain from the heat checks or the 3 pointers he takes too early in the possession. The pick and pop play with Porzingis shooting 3's is a very very effective play. We need a point guard that actually would benefit from a screen setter than can do what Porzingis can do (either not roll, stay back and pop or just straight up roll to the basket). Perhaps Grant can do this next season more consistently.

What can truly make Porzingis lethal as a big man is that he can shoot 3's, he can roll to the basket, he can post up, he can create his own shots in isolations. There isn't a single other big man who can do all of that right now in the league, not at the Center position. In his prime/peak, he should be taking 15-17 shots, and 4-5 three pointers without hesitation. But the 3's need to come from pick and pop plays, and corner shot as well as kick outs. Not as many heat checks.

mreinman would actually be happy to the point of titillation if KP put up 10 3s/game...

only if they are efficient ones

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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