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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
He seems checked out and miserable. The Lakers are a mess. I understand the impulse to do a Kobe farewell tour - but the way they are doing it is killing their young guys. They have the completely wrong coach for this, too.
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
crzymdups wrote:He seems checked out and miserable. The Lakers are a mess. I understand the impulse to do a Kobe farewell tour - but the way they are doing it is killing their young guys. They have the completely wrong coach for this, too. byron coach is not just a bad coach but he seems like a very bad person so here is what phil is thinking ....
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Caseloads
Posts: 27725 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/29/2001 Member: #41 |
mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:He seems checked out and miserable. The Lakers are a mess. I understand the impulse to do a Kobe farewell tour - but the way they are doing it is killing their young guys. They have the completely wrong coach for this, too. bad person? stretch. bad coach? absolutely. |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
Yeah, I don't know anything about Byron as a person. But he seems like a bad coach and certainly the wrong coach for that team right now. He seems miserable, too. Something is wrong in that Lakers organization since Dr. Buss passed away.
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
crzymdups wrote:He seems checked out and miserable. The Lakers are a mess. I understand the impulse to do a Kobe farewell tour - but the way they are doing it is killing their young guys. They have the completely wrong coach for this, too. Farewell tour? This is playing an overaged (once great) player more minutes than he deserves in order to get a high lotto pick and it is sick. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
mreinman wrote: He's frustrated and having a miserable season- as you know when you're down in the dumps, it's hard to think clearly. Plus I think he's more focused on indirectly communicating his dislike of the coach than answering the questions that were asked. |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
earthmansurfer wrote:crzymdups wrote:He seems checked out and miserable. The Lakers are a mess. I understand the impulse to do a Kobe farewell tour - but the way they are doing it is killing their young guys. They have the completely wrong coach for this, too. I'm not a fan of tanking, but in this case it absolutely makes sense for the Lakers. If they don't land a top 3 pick, they lose their pick all together. Plus they are a bad team anyways- let the fans say goodbye to Kobe whilst getting a top pick- they're screwed without it. Personally I wish the Sixers and Lakers would just work out a trade between themselves of Russell for OK4- do both players a favor. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
All I know is that i'm glad that we have a better environment for nurturing and developing our young talent this year. It's a tough thing to adapt to this league and young players can be crushed by the weight of losing, the media and pressure to perform. It's hard to know for sure how they're doing things in LA, but it doesn't seem like they are really focused on their youth, but that's hard to really know from here. Last year was tough on our young guys in NY last year with all the losing, but they did maintain a somewhat positive attitude and we saw some progress. This year is even better. The struggles of Jerian i'm sure are tough for him but I don't know if he's ever sounded as out of it as Russell did. Maybe he was just tired.
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
smackeddog wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:crzymdups wrote:He seems checked out and miserable. The Lakers are a mess. I understand the impulse to do a Kobe farewell tour - but the way they are doing it is killing their young guys. They have the completely wrong coach for this, too. I just think it is bad for the team (e.g. look at how it destroyed the chemistry on Phili, until D'Antoni came!), but sure, if they get Simmons, then all bets are off. But I will snicker if they get pick #4. We got to be careful about Instant Karma as that one Beetle said... Interesting trade you suggest. (We have nothing to offer, KP is not going anywhere for anyone, not even Towns, tbh.) The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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nyknickzingis
Posts: 23029 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/8/2015 Member: #6207 |
Russell would be really good in the Triangle.
I think the Lakers should have picked Okafor. Okafor's a natural scoring bigman, and would have fit in great with their history. They develop their bigmen really well. Russell would have been great in Philly, especially with Mike D'Antoni there now. For his attitude, I've never been a fan. From what I've seen he's the type of guy who has a few expectations and doesn't react well to not being handed things. You look at that interview, you clearly see the attitude factor I'm talking about. He's going to be a heck of a player. His skills are very good. Byron Scott does make Fisher look like a very good coach. You look at the Lakers, man, they have no culture and no identity. Knicks aren't great, but they're in a better spot. Can you guys imagine Byron coaching the Knicks? |
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ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
THANK THE HEAVENS WE AVOIDED THIS DIVA!!!
I don't care how bad things are...19 year old rookies shouldn't sound like this unless someone just ran over your dog. |
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Knicks1969
Posts: 25394 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/7/2014 Member: #5915 |
If Philly is smart, they will propose a trade to acquire Russell. They have many assets that they can offer. He would fit well in a D'Antoni run system. Send Embiid and other talents to the Lakers for Russell
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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Nalod
Posts: 72120 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
nyknickzingis wrote:Russell would be really good in the Triangle. How do they develop big men well? The water? Coach's change so its not cultural? We got back to Mikan? Wilt was traded for. Kareem was traded for. Shaq was a free agent. Divac's was a great pick and developed and Bynum yielded a chip or two in his era. Pau was a trade. Lakers have a great history, but not developing big's. How is Russell LIke Farrah? LIke a character she played? Give the kid a break and not judge a 19 year old who might not be the brightest. Clearly burnt out and Scott is messing with him but he might still be a great player. I do agree with you and think you go big when ever it warrants. I love we got KP and had him over Russell because His size intrigued me, but Truth be told if OKA4 was there I think that was the pick to make. Halfway thru the rookie season hardly makes a career. |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42864 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
Had a Farrah Fawcett poster in my bedroom when I was a kid. Damned Farrah haters!
Russell is hyper-competitive. I remember a story about him playing a game and Russell yelling at a friend who didnt try to complete a pick and roll because he thought there was no room for Russell to pass. Russell's friend said he told him he could have threaded the needle. Thats not a selfish player, the kid loves to makes his teammates better. Russell has been told by his coach that his rookie year, building a foundation, is secondary to Kobe's curtain call. Kobe believes that taking a bow is more important than passing the torch. Thought Russell should have kept quiet, at the same time, he is the number 2 pick, the future of their franchise, and he's being treated like a bit player. |
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Cartman718
Posts: 29069 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
can you imagine what our state of affairs would be 5 years from now if KP was going to be a 19 year old rookie at that time dealing with some other version of Melo and not ThisMelo??
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Nalod
Posts: 72120 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
Cartman718 wrote:can you imagine what our state of affairs would be 5 years from now if KP was going to be a 19 year old rookie at that time dealing with some other version of Melo and not ThisMelo?? So now we get to have "RetroHate"!!!! I love it. Lets hate on melo for what he would have done in the past. In an alternate universe lets throw in Starbury as well! |
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Nalod
Posts: 72120 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() Might not seem like much now, but this poster sold 20million copies!!! She had a bad interview in the 1990's on Letterman and came off sounding bad. Could have been a bad mix of medicine. |
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Cartman718
Posts: 29069 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
Nalod wrote:Cartman718 wrote:can you imagine what our state of affairs would be 5 years from now if KP was going to be a 19 year old rookie at that time dealing with some other version of Melo and not ThisMelo?? huh?? chill out dude...no melo hate here. Just thinking that we are lucky to have KP come in and have the ThisMelo version playing for us. if Melo was instead in a primadonna state like Kobe...we'd be in trouble. You are reading too much into my statement. Phil speaking with Melo. Fisher motivating Melo to be ThisMelo...it's all helped KP's transition to the NBA. Byron Scott and Kupchak on the other hand...let's placate the Hall Of Fame player in his last year at the risk of alienating the future. Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
Caseloads wrote:He definitely is a bad coach. But that is a bad look for Russell (who did we play last night?). Scott has some known flaws that should just make him not a head coach candidate. He seems to have only picked up on the hard practice aspect of Pat Riley's coaching. He doesn't prepare, favors vets and his fox hole guys no matter the situation. His rotations in NJ seem to come at the same minute of the game every night no matter what was going on on the court. I can't imagine he will have another year in LA.mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:He seems checked out and miserable. The Lakers are a mess. I understand the impulse to do a Kobe farewell tour - but the way they are doing it is killing their young guys. They have the completely wrong coach for this, too. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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