Posted by djsunyc:

split the MLE/LLE for vin and gadzuric?

Posted by BRIGGS:

sounds about right. i like mihm because he's white although last year i wanted to trade doleac for rodney white hmmm...

Posted by BRIGGS:

my suggestion is we sign Mihm to a 5 year 30mm$. the market is nuts

Posted by BRIGGS:

we have a 100mm$ payroll. giving mihm 5mm per year would be 1/20th of that output. Mihm is better than Doleac who couldve taken 4 mm a year from New Orleans. The market is absurd, but 5mm per year for a 24 year old 7 footer with skills who can run the floor--whoose potential IMHO has NOT even been close to reached yet is worthy of the cash from a team with absolutely no true C other than 45 year old Deke. Yes Id rather have Dampier for the MLE, but if that cant happen, I have no problem slightly overpaying Mihm. We have 0 guarantee we will get a 7 footer on to this roster any time soon. Mihm is 24--so you pay a little extra and add a year. Id rather have Mihm for 5mm a year at C than Walker for who knows how much he wants for a contract next year playing a position i want sweetney to get 35+minutes at? I would take Gadzuric as well, but id pay him a tad less---something of the 4 years 16mm ilk.


Gadzuric or Mihm --im fine with either one. If one is making 4mm per and the opther is making 5mm per---they are easy to move if need be. Its the 6 year 55mm$ deals that are hard to move.

Posted by fishmike:

Briggs, my man and poster boy for rebuilding... Answer me this: Does Mihm get us closer to winning a title? Does Mihm give us a piece or added flexibility that we can use to get us another player that will bring us closer to a title? Does Mihm represent a player that has shown potential to clearly be something more than he is now?

I cant say yes to any of these. Saying he's better than Doleac is about as good an edorsement as I can agree with. we have a 100mm payroll because over the 5 years management has paid marginal players $5-$6 mill a year for just showing up. Arent you the one thats said at some point the cycle has to break? What does Mihm give us? 2 wins? How many of our 82 games next year will you say "Mihm was the difference maker?"

If you want Mihm just trade a couple expiring deals for Calvin Booth or Tony Battie. What player to you want to leave off the roster to make room for Mihm? Ariza? Dermaar?

Posted by djsunyc:

I see what you are saying about mihm but the same thing can be said for Dampier, the guy is a slug, he play when he felt like it, he felt like playing because it was a contract year, Do you think that Dampier is going to improve the knicks more than 5 games? I don't think so, not at all...

i disagree. i think dampier is the difference between the knicks making a run at the playoffs to making a run deep into the playoffs. he's a piece that we don't have. a defensive center that opposing teams must respect.

now, is mihm better than nazr? i don't think so. is mihm better than vin baker? i don't think so. i'd rather have gadzuric. signing mihm to a 3 year $10 mil deal wouldn't kill us but anything more than that would hurt more than help.

Posted by fishmike:

lol... this is cool because the debate has come full circle and back to Damp. That debate is easy... if for 65mm you get the Dampier that blocked shots and domintated the boards its worth it. If you get a timid 10/8/1.5 player for 10mm a year its a collosal setback. The upside is such where a Dampier and a healthy Houston elevates us to a team that can compete with anyone in the East, including the Heat and Pacers.