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1/17/2016  3:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/17/2016  4:12 PM
Melo has been playing great Teamball for the first time in his career. He is 100% invested in Phil's system. It sucks that he had to get injured now during our hot streak. He is missing these games and we are losing because we need this Melo badly to win oonsistently. KP is not ready to carry the team on his back yet. KP is a rookie and already exceeded everyone's expectations in year 1. This is Melo's team. He is the leader on and off the court now. Afflalo & Lance are not good enough to step up and give you the kind of production Melo was giving us. If he capable of giving his team consistent elite production, the Denver Nuggets wouldn't have missed the playoffs the years Afflalo became their go to guy with Gallo's injury.

But when Melo returns everyone will get to go back to playing their roles that led to the hot streak. KP will give you solid production most nights and be the best player on the floor some nights. With time he will be able to give us consistent production night in night out. Afflalo will go back to being 3rd best player on this team. Like we had with JR the last time we had some success. Ride him when he's hot. Difference being Afflalo is a professional and doesn't do stupid things off the court to negatively impact his team. When Afflalo's shot is off he can impact the game defensively and he can post up smaller tweener/combo guards. For someone who idolized Jordan JR never developed a post game despite having the size.

So as of today I just want everyone to get along & I will practice what I'm preaching as well.

There is no reason not to with the Knicks recent success and the fact they are trending in the right direction and with continuity the skies the limit for this team led by Phil, Melo & KP. I know Chuck says some dumb things but into of fighting with him lets give him some time. Stop the mudslinging, making false assumptions & lumping posters together on either side. We are in this together as passionate/diehard Fans. all we know Chuck may still come around. Maybe after we see some playoff success with Melo.

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1/17/2016  3:37 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Melo has been playing great Teamball for the first time in his career. He is 100% invested in Phil's system. It sucks that he had to get injured now during our hot streak. He is missing these games and we are losing because we need this Melo badly to win oonsistently. KP is not ready to carry the team on his back yet. KP is a rookie and already exceeded everyone's expectations in year 1. This is Melo's team. He is the leader on and off the court now. Afflalo & Lance are not good enough to step up and give you the kind of production Melo was giving us. If he capable of giving his team consistent elite production, the Denver Nuggets wouldn't have missed the playoffs the years Afflalo became their go to guy with Gallo's injury.

But when Melo returns everyone will get to go back to playing their roles that led to the hot streak. KP will give you solid production most nights and be the best player on the floor some nights. With time he will be able to give us consistent production night in night out. Afflalo will go back to being 3rd best player on this team. Like we had with JR the last time we had some success. Ride him when he's hot. Difference being Afflalo is a professional and doesn't do stupid things off the court to negatively impact his team. When Afflalo's shot is off he can impact the game defensively and he can post up smaller tweener/combo guards. For someone who idolized Jordan JR never developed a post game despite having the size.

Any as of today I just want everyone to get along & I will practice what I'm preaching as well.

There is no reason not to with the Knicks recent success and the fact they are trending in the right direction and with continuity the skies the limit for this team led by Phil, Melo & KP. I know Chuck says some dumb things but into of fighting with him lets give him some time. Stop the mudslinging, making false assumptions & lumping posters together on either side. We are in this together as passionate/diehard Fans. all we know Chuck may still come around. Maybe after we see some playoff success with Melo.

Is there a question in there somewhere or are you just making a statement and letting everyone know how you feel??

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1/17/2016  5:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/17/2016  5:18 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will

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1/17/2016  5:37 PM
Rookie wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will

afflalo will have to accept coming off the bench eventually. there's no way around it unless he passes the ball more and plays defense better than he has.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/17/2016  5:52 PM
dk7th wrote:
Rookie wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will

afflalo will have to accept coming off the bench eventually. there's no way around it unless he passes the ball more and plays defense better than he has.

If we had a better player to fill his shoes in the SL, based on AA's comments and his humility I doubt he would have a problem with the move. So who we signing?

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1/17/2016  5:57 PM
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dk7th wrote:
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gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will

afflalo will have to accept coming off the bench eventually. there's no way around it unless he passes the ball more and plays defense better than he has.

If we had a better player to fill his shoes in the SL, based on AA's comments and his humility I doubt he would have a problem with the move. So who we signing?

No clue. Can you name the first seven or eight potential upgrades out there? It'll be too long before Westbrook comes available. My preference is a better defender than Afflalo. He's all sound and fury on defense and not really effective, at least in what I see and what his "defensive real plus-minus" reveals.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/17/2016  6:04 PM
Rookie wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will


None of those guards moved on happily cause we traded three of them and let the other one go and did you also enjoy double A's consistent shot last night and against the Nets when we needed him most?? I do love what Phil is doing and know what we have now is the best he could do with what he had but i'm more looking forward to what he'll be doing either at this trade deadline or in the off season. The future is bright but a lot of the guys on this team won't be a part of it.
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newyorker4ever wrote:
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gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will


None of those guards moved on happily cause we traded three of them and let the other one go and did you also enjoy double A's consistent shot last night and against the Nets when we needed him most?? I do love what Phil is doing and know what we have now is the best he could do with what he had but i'm more looking forward to what he'll be doing either at this trade deadline or in the off season. The future is bright but a lot of the guys on this team won't be a part of it.

Like who? I bet you only two players from the current roster won't be here next season: Seraphin and perhaps Calderon.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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Knicks1969 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
Rookie wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will


None of those guards moved on happily cause we traded three of them and let the other one go and did you also enjoy double A's consistent shot last night and against the Nets when we needed him most?? I do love what Phil is doing and know what we have now is the best he could do with what he had but i'm more looking forward to what he'll be doing either at this trade deadline or in the off season. The future is bright but a lot of the guys on this team won't be a part of it.

Like who? I bet you only two players from the current roster won't be here next season: Seraphin and perhaps Calderon.

I would think one or two of the following players will be gone, Amundson, Thomas, Early, Gallo, Williams, and Afflalo.
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1/18/2016  1:29 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
Rookie wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will


None of those guards moved on happily cause we traded three of them and let the other one go and did you also enjoy double A's consistent shot last night and against the Nets when we needed him most?? I do love what Phil is doing and know what we have now is the best he could do with what he had but i'm more looking forward to what he'll be doing either at this trade deadline or in the off season. The future is bright but a lot of the guys on this team won't be a part of it.

Like who? I bet you only two players from the current roster won't be here next season: Seraphin and perhaps Calderon.

I would think one or two of the following players will be gone, Amundson, Thomas, Early, Gallo, Williams, and Afflalo.

They'll likely be gone because the Knicks have no control over any of them. Speaking of, other than Afflalo the others arent really key players in the rotation.
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1/18/2016  8:26 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
Rookie wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will


None of those guards moved on happily cause we traded three of them and let the other one go and did you also enjoy double A's consistent shot last night and against the Nets when we needed him most?? I do love what Phil is doing and know what we have now is the best he could do with what he had but i'm more looking forward to what he'll be doing either at this trade deadline or in the off season. The future is bright but a lot of the guys on this team won't be a part of it.

Like who? I bet you only two players from the current roster won't be here next season: Seraphin and perhaps Calderon.

I would think one or two of the following players will be gone, Amundson, Thomas, Early, Gallo, Williams, and Afflalo.

Amundson and Early are safe bets to be gone, as one doesn't play and the other one's turning out to be IR fodder.

Thomas and Gallo? I don't see them leaving; I think they remain as bench players in this system, and I think they possibly repay Phil's trust with the deep hometown discount. That's the homer in me speaking of course.

Affalo? Eh...could go either way. Like dktf stated, I thought this guy was supposed to be a big part of the answer in our perimeter D, but I haven't experienced anything outstanding there in the games I've watched or listened to. Still, he's a massive upgrade over waiting for JR to grow up or Shump to live up to the hype.

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1/18/2016  10:20 AM
jrodmc wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
Rookie wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Statement

I like the timing of Melo's injury. You can see that all of the role players have been working hard on improving their individual game, but sometimes a reality check of where you are in your individual goals vs where you fit in the team dynamic and how you contribute to team wins can help a young guy keep his ego in check. You have guys like Williams who are changing their rep from bust to solid contributor. Double A is just a solid soldier. Maybe people forget how every other guard just didn't get the triangle and moved on happily (Shump, JR, Hardaway, Larkin). I personally enjoy seeing double A make shots previous guards would miss...consistently. I see so many positives and a great team chemistry. I predicted 27 wins and 10 moral victories in the offseason, happy to admit I was wrong. I think this team makes a playoff run, or at least makes it interesting. That's a lot to build on. Team loyalty is something that seems to be lost these days. I think Phil has done an exceptional job in this department. I am not worried about Aflallo and Williams opting out, either they get it and want to be part of it...or they don't. I think they will


None of those guards moved on happily cause we traded three of them and let the other one go and did you also enjoy double A's consistent shot last night and against the Nets when we needed him most?? I do love what Phil is doing and know what we have now is the best he could do with what he had but i'm more looking forward to what he'll be doing either at this trade deadline or in the off season. The future is bright but a lot of the guys on this team won't be a part of it.

Like who? I bet you only two players from the current roster won't be here next season: Seraphin and perhaps Calderon.

I would think one or two of the following players will be gone, Amundson, Thomas, Early, Gallo, Williams, and Afflalo.

Amundson and Early are safe bets to be gone, as one doesn't play and the other one's turning out to be IR fodder.

Thomas and Gallo? I don't see them leaving; I think they remain as bench players in this system, and I think they possibly repay Phil's trust with the deep hometown discount. That's the homer in me speaking of course.

Affalo? Eh...could go either way. Like dktf stated, I thought this guy was supposed to be a big part of the answer in our perimeter D, but I haven't experienced anything outstanding there in the games I've watched or listened to. Still, he's a massive upgrade over waiting for JR to grow up or Shump to live up to the hype.

Yup agree with every point. Lance & Gallo is very valuable off the bench. Early, Serafin clearly won't be here next year and maybe even KOQ.

But KOQ is a very good shooter and passer so I can see Phil keeping him. Hopefully he finds his role once he fully grasps this offense and defense.

Hopefully at some point after the Allstar break. Allstar break is next month. Then March, April and the playoffs start. Where did this season go, CRAZY!!

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1/18/2016  11:29 AM

I like this peace you have instated, guns.

Go Knicks! Let's get the Sixers to 38 losses!

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1/18/2016  12:12 PM
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I like this peace you have instated, guns.

Go Knicks! Let's get the Sixers to 38 losses!

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