Phil Jackson has compiled a solid trio of point guards in Jose Calderon, Langston Galloway, and Jerian Grant. Grant is viewed by most as the future of the position for the Knicks, while Galloway is a 3-and-D specialist who appears to be better suited for the 2.

Calderon is still a solid offensive player, but his lack of defensive prowess and productivity rubs many around New York the wrong way.

martin wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:The right move.
If we can add either Conley, DeRozan or Batum to the SG or PG spots next season, while keeping Melo/Porzingis/Lopez/Williams for our front line, we'll be very very good.

man I don't see DeRozan outside of highlights but I just don't think he's a Phil type of guy. Always thought of him as a ball dominant guy without the passing. Am I wrong? How's his D?

His shooting from distance seems atrocious.

bad three point shooter but a decent TS because of his FTA's and FT%. He is also passing more this year which is nice to see but I still see has a mini (old) Melo.

martin wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:The right move.
If we can add either Conley, DeRozan or Batum to the SG or PG spots next season, while keeping Melo/Porzingis/Lopez/Williams for our front line, we'll be very very good.

man I don't see DeRozan outside of highlights but I just don't think he's a Phil type of guy. Always thought of him as a ball dominant guy without the passing. Am I wrong? How's his D?

His shooting from distance seems atrocious.

Melo/Porzingis/DeRozan with Grant/Lopez or Calderon/Lopez as the other starters is very good.
The Triangle has had scoring wings - look at Jordan/Kobe. Now DeRozan is not on that level obviously. I'd still take him over Afflalo and another role player. I think he stays in Toronto anyway.

crzymdups wrote:Batum or Conley would be a godsend.

Sounds like the Nets will be bidding Conley up to the max though...

I heard the Nets have eyes for D.Derozan as well and heard they're gonna go after him hard with a max contract offer.

crzymdups wrote:Batum or Conley would be a godsend.

Sounds like the Nets will be bidding Conley up to the max though...

Why would Conley choose the Nets if we are offering though? They have an unstable front office, poor attendance, and aren't going to be any good for the duration of his prime/contract.

EnySpree wrote:I do not want to waste money on Conley. He's a player on the downside. He's going to be Raymond Felton in a few years.

I have some reservations with Conley as well but lets not compare him to Ray Felton.

Conley is a greyhound -- an elite (speed/quickness) athlete and he's 28. It is safe to say he'll still be athletic enough to be a very high-quality PG for the next 5 years.

I do worry about his durability but the guy would really check so many boxes for us.

- I think he can both play in the system and also flourish with a pick/roll option game (does this great with Gasol today)
- he's a mover -- would be great taking elbow hand-offs --- cutting back-door etc.
- he's a true PG -- give him the ball and it's safe
- he'll help us run
- he'll help KP/Melo get easy shots
- he can shoot pretty well and he can get into the paint / to the rim.

It's really a concern about his durability for me --- will he get injured often with his thin frame.

gunsnewing wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

martin wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:The right move.
If we can add either Conley, DeRozan or Batum to the SG or PG spots next season, while keeping Melo/Porzingis/Lopez/Williams for our front line, we'll be very very good.

man I don't see DeRozan outside of highlights but I just don't think he's a Phil type of guy. Always thought of him as a ball dominant guy without the passing. Am I wrong? How's his D?

His shooting from distance seems atrocious.

Does Afflalo pass? Afflalo has even more tunnel vision than DeRozan. He's not an ideal fit. Batum or Conley would be better. But I'll take DD over Afflalo any day of the week. As we've seen in these 2 games since Melo has gone, AA has not been any good with attention focused on him. You see in these games who truly can create their own shot and who can be a factor within the system. Affalo is solid, but not good enough to be a top 3 scorer on a good/contending team.

Melo/Porzingis/DeRozan with Grant/Lopez or Calderon/Lopez as the other starters is very good.
The Triangle has had scoring wings - look at Jordan/Kobe. Now DeRozan is not on that level obviously. I'd still take him over Afflalo and another role player. I think he stays in Toronto anyway.

Yea and he never played with a scorer like Melo and eventually KP. I think he will be more likely to pass.

How is his transition from SC to SG going? He is playing SG for Toronto and Carroll SF right?
I know He will be on Phil's radar for his length at guard alone. We would have a sick team as far as length is concerned