fishmike wrote:foundation was there though... the blue print was there. We needed shooters and guy who could defend. That resulted in trading picks for Bargs among other terrible deals. It was really weird the moves the Knicks made after that season. It was like they looked at worked and did the opposite with every move.You realize the only two losing seasons Melo has been a part of in the NBA were the last two? In any case it looks like we have left that all behind and being run and built with a real plan. If you look at every pro situation Phil has come into evey time that situation has gotten better, and everytime he has left those situations have gone south.
He's the guy that saw what we had, what we didnt have and moved. Lets face it, he gave Melo a big deal and literally purged the rest of the entire roster. Dont mistaken that for Melo love, rather an honest understanding that we had one piece worth keeping and Phil did that.
I think midway through Phil's year #2 we are seeing the start of his vision.
The fall out after the 2013 playoffs loss was so weird. I think Dolan and CAA got involved. The Bargs trade screams CAA involvement. Dolan seemed to want to trade Shumpert because Shump wouldn't play summer league. Grunwald quit or was forced out because of either the Shump thing or the Bargnani thing. I can't believe they pooched it so quickly and so badly.
Though that team was not built for the long run. Jason Kidd was a coach on the floor and leader on that team and he left for NJ - was probably interviewing for that job DURING the season, because it happened so quickly. Sheed retired, Kmart never played again, KT almost ended his career with that throwback game he had in Utah. It just never felt sustainable - it felt like a one season confluence of crafty vets. Predictably, once Kidd and Sheed and KT were gone, JR lost focus, too much of the defense/leadership role fell to an aging Tyson and he started pointing fingers and became disgruntled.
Firing Grunwald was terrible... at least it would've been til we got Phil. This is the culture change (and the lucky draft pick) we needed and hoped for when Donnie Walsh came in. I'm glad it is finally here. And I agree we are one or two great pieces from being real contenders. I mean, it'd have to be a GREAT piece like Westbrook or MAYBE Batum and a few other smaller pieces.
Anyway, it's a fun ride. Just enjoying the process.