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helloharv
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1/1/2016  6:40 PM
Jimmer Seems like a no brainer to me , wonder why it hasn't happened yet ?
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1/1/2016  6:47 PM
helloharv wrote:Jimmer Seems like a no brainer to me , wonder why it hasn't happened yet ?

We need a PG....if Fredette can shoot and feed the post, we should use him

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/1/2016  6:52 PM
I don't think they can fill Early's spot unless his injury is going to keep him out for a significant amount of time. I believe the Knicks have to petition for hardship to get an extra roster spot. Fredette or Wroten probably is on the team on 1/5.
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1/1/2016  6:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2016  7:00 PM
If you wanted to make a case for Jimmer the only real thing I can think of to take him over the others(and it is a OK argument at this point), is that he doesn't get hurt and I don't think he ever has. I just don't know if 12 or so games in the NBA D-League is proof that he will play well this time.

In a normal world without injuries Wroten would be the no brainer.

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1/1/2016  7:23 PM
TAB wrote:If you wanted to make a case for Jimmer the only real thing I can think of to take him over the others(and it is a OK argument at this point), is that he doesn't get hurt and I don't think he ever has. I just don't know if 12 or so games in the NBA D-League is proof that he will play well this time.

In a normal world without injuries Wroten would be the no brainer.

I read that Wroten is not really a shooter. Although he is athletic and can attack the basket which is a plus, I believe he is a more advanced player then Grant, which does not say much at this point. Fredette can shoot the ball, and might turn out and have a similar career then Jeremy Lin. Since Fredette is a Newyorker and a healthier version out of the two, I am more inclined to see him on the roster.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/1/2016  7:32 PM
I think we would know about Jimmer pretty quick(if he has the skills)to be back in the league. I think that makes them hesitant to do anything beyond a possible 10-day.
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1/1/2016  7:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2016  7:39 PM
Report: Knicks still looking to add guard, considering Jimmer Fredette
By Kurt HelinJan 1, 2016, 3:00 PM EST

The first name to come up was Tony Wroten, when the Sixers waived him. Next up in the rumor mill was Brandon Jennings when he returned from injury to the Detroit Pistons.

But the Knicks are still looking for a point guard to add to the roster and are taking a look at Jimmer Fredette, reports Ian Begley of ESPN.

“The degree of their interest in Wroten is unclear at this point. Detroit’s Brandon Jennings is also on the Knicks’ radar, but the club wasn’t impressed with what they saw from Jennings during Detroit’s loss to the Knicks on Tuesday, according to sources familiar with their thinking….

The Knicks also have been monitoring the D-League for potential additions. They have an open roster spot so they can add a player without making a corresponding roster move. In light of Cleanthony Early‘s knee injury from Wednesday’s shooting, the Knicks may need to add someone ASAP.

Jimmer Fredette of the Westchester Knicks is one candidate. Fredette has played well for the Knicks’ D-League club (23 points, 4.5 assists, 4.3 rebounds) and Phil Jackson is a fan of Fredette’s, according to a source, but that doesn’t guarantee him a roster spot with the Knicks.”

For five seasons Fredette has struggled to find a spot in the NBA (including last season with a Pelicans team desperate for better guard play). He doesn’t have great athleticism and is playmaking skills are not NBA level. However, the biggest issue was always defense — when he would enter the game teams ran sets to go right at Fredette because he couldn’t stay in front of anyone.

If he buys into being a role player off the bench for the Knicks and knocks down his looks he might have value on offense for the Knicks, but can they deal with his defense?

Whomever it is, look for the Knicks to add someone sooner rather than later.

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1/1/2016  7:36 PM
We already have an open roster spot. No need to petition the league. At this stage.
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1/1/2016  7:39 PM
What happened to Jimmer Fredette in the NBA?
By Kurt HelinOct 22, 2015, 4:36 PM EST

There was no more divisive, controversial figure in the 2011 NBA draft than Jimmer Fredette.

Scouts were split on Fredette and how he’d fit in the NBA. There was no question the man could shoot the rock, but in college the offense was geared toward him with the ball in his hands, plus his defensive problems were not exploited. The question was whether a GM thought he could adapt his game to the NBA where he would have to work more in a system. The Kings believed he could, they traded down to get him at No. 10 — ahead of Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard, and Markieff Morris.

But after four unimpressive seasons in the NBA, his career seems to be over for now after being cut by the Spurs this week. Fredette likely is headed to Europe or somewhere else, but for now his NBA career is over.

What happened? Michael Lee of Yahoo Sports spoke to scouts and his former coaches and got a frank assessment of a guy not willing to adapt his game.

““Jimmer thinks everybody is stupid,” said an NBA assistant who worked with Fredette. “He thinks everybody needs to come and just turn over their offense and let him shoot it anytime he wants. That’s not how the league works….”

“He won’t adjust his game for it,” he said. “He’ll tell you, ‘This is what I did at BYU.’ Well, BYU, that’s a long time ago.””

This happens to good players in every professional sport. They are used to being huge stars — the best player on their high school team, their AAU team, and likely their college team, and everything was geared around them and their skills. Then they get to the NBA and they need to accept life as a role player and cannot. They are convinced that what worked so well before will continue to work, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Fredette (and the cult of Jimmer fans) thought he was a Stephen Curry style point guard who could score and run the offense, just nobody ever gave him that chance. The reality is he simply not good enough to do that at the NBA level — he doesn’t have the playmaking skills, he doesn’t have the athleticism. However, the bigger issue was always defense. The last couple seasons, when he would enter the game the opposing point guard’s eyes would light up — teams ran sets to go right at Fredette because he couldn’t stay in front of anyone. It was that defense that kept him off the court more than anything in New Orleans last season, a team that was in desperate need of point guard help.

Fredette needed to adapt his game, and the comp everyone around the league seemed to use was J.J. Redick, now with the Clippers.

““J.J. is a good example for him,” one of his NBA coaches said. “He had done a lot of prolific scoring in college, but came in and eventually figured out the NBA. He changed his body. He learned the league. He’s had a hell of a career, but it wasn’t easy for him early on.””

It took Redick almost five seasons in the league to adapt his game to the point he was a valuable contributor (now on a contending team, where his shooting is key to the Clippers spacing). He’s talked many times about those challenges. And let’s not forget, Redick is two inches taller and a better athlete than Fredette ever was.

If Fredette goes to Europe, maybe he can find his stroke and a way to fit into a team that will someday allow him to come back to the NBA and contribute. Maybe. The question is does he want to make that kind of commitment and change?

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1/1/2016  8:39 PM
Early is not losing his spot ya vultures.
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1/1/2016  9:14 PM
Sambakick wrote:Early is not losing his spot ya vultures.

Agree. The Knicks only have 14 guys under contract as is - they can sign someone without making another move.

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1/2/2016  11:21 AM
What about Glenn Rice Jr???
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1/2/2016  11:49 AM
Nalod wrote:What about Glenn Rice Jr???

he's not even 1/10th of Glenn Rice sr

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1/2/2016  12:34 PM
Early is expected to make a full recovery, and it would be real bad PR to cut him. Sometimes what Early went through can help a a person get a better handle on whats important in life. Hopefully some good comes out of this for Cleanthony.
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1/3/2016  2:51 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Nalod wrote:What about Glenn Rice Jr???

he's not even 1/10th of Glenn Rice sr

fredette cant stay in front of anyonr? oh great a younger calderon

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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1/3/2016  4:23 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Early is expected to make a full recovery, and it would be real bad PR to cut him. Sometimes what Early went through can help a a person get a better handle on whats important in life. Hopefully some good comes out of this for Cleanthony.

Didn't Paul Pierce get stabbed a bunch of times in a similar situation? Just sayin, it can happen to the best of them.

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1/3/2016  6:59 AM
Nalod wrote:What about Glenn Rice Jr???

He was shot in the leg recently also.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/26/glen-rice-jr-shot-in-leg-in-fight-at-t-i-s-restaurant/

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1/3/2016  8:55 AM
Clean wrote:
Nalod wrote:What about Glenn Rice Jr???

He was shot in the leg recently also.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/26/glen-rice-jr-shot-in-leg-in-fight-at-t-i-s-restaurant/

Imagine that? What a coincidence!

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