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SocraticBallin22
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1/1/2016  10:12 PM
Jose is at 37 minutes right now with 3 minutes to play and Fish will take out all the starters cuz the game is over. Under no circumstance, I don't care how many shots he's made--should Jose play that many minutes in any game. He played essentially the entire 2nd half! Are you kidding me? He's 34. Such poor management of substitutions.
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1/1/2016  10:12 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Again why on earth are we down to this team

They're a better team.

But we're very inconsistent with how we execute the offense.
The best sets are when we fill the Triangle spots and just use a S/R game with Calderon or someone else as a ballhandler.
Everything else has been really inconsistent most of the season.

If Charlie Rosen is right, Phil isn't happy with Fisher's job or commitment to the Triangle. It clearly shows this team still hasn't been able to grasp the Triangle very well at all.

It's not about the team grasping the Triangle or not. This is mostly about talent. This roster needs more dependable talent period. They don't get enough easy scores! We miss tons of shots at the basket and get no drives from our guards.

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1/1/2016  10:13 PM
afflalo's line tonight: 2-8 fg, 0 assists, 1 rebound, 2 tos, -26 when he is on the floor.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/1/2016  10:13 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Again why on earth are we down to this team

Again, why do you think the Knicks are better than the Bulls on their home court?

Seriously, I'm dying to hear the explanation for this?

Bulls have been better without Rose all season.

Please explain. Please.

We are not playing good tonight .. It just burns when you get beat by less talent

Ah i see what you're doing.......trolling

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1/1/2016  10:13 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Again why on earth are we down to this team

They're a better team.

But we're very inconsistent with how we execute the offense.
The best sets are when we fill the Triangle spots and just use a S/R game with Calderon or someone else as a ballhandler.
Everything else has been really inconsistent most of the season.

If Charlie Rosen is right, Phil isn't happy with Fisher's job or commitment to the Triangle. It clearly shows this team still hasn't been able to grasp the Triangle very well at all.

Well, Phil decided to be more involved this season....So this also falls on Phil as well. Just like the Eagles, these blowouts will cause some serious changes either in the starting lineup or coaching staff. Too much media and fan pressure for Phil to sit on his hands. I will be all over the rumor sites looking for inside information after this game. Suppose to be a new year and new goals, but it doesn't look like there has been any improvements......Especially without Rose, you would think the knicks had a chance at a win....And to be up by 2 and now it's a blowout, that hurts. Too much energy climbing out of the hole.

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1/1/2016  10:13 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Again why on earth are we down to this team
Again, why do you think the Knicks are better than the Bulls on their home court?

Seriously, I'm dying to hear the explanation for this?

Bulls have been better without Rose all season.

Please explain. Please.

We are not playing good tonight .. It just burns when you get beat by less talent
Lol
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1/1/2016  10:14 PM
Sorry maybe it's just my hatred for the Bulls since watching them for 30 years.... But no way should we be losing by 20 lol more like 2-8 pts... Again I hate the bulls
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1/1/2016  10:14 PM
WP76 wrote:We lost this game when we missed "bunnies" on three straight possessions about five minutes ago.

Yeah, but still.....we can't be that fragile of a team to get blown out by 24, because of a few missed layups.

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1/1/2016  10:15 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:At the end of the day, some are going to forget what truly lost us the game. We once again had an atrocious start in the first half and second half. We had the wrong players on the floor on Many occasions; etc

Yep, missed shots is why we lost. look at our players shooting percentages.

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1/1/2016  10:15 PM
crzymdups wrote:
WP76 wrote:We lost this game when we missed "bunnies" on three straight possessions about five minutes ago.

Yeah, because then the Bulls would only be up by 17.

Actually, it's more than that. It was all about momentum. Missing those shots killed ours and ignited the Bulls to go on this blowout run. Now Chicago has hit about 10 treys in a row.

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1/1/2016  10:16 PM
4Q - 1:11
CHI 108 NYK 81
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1/1/2016  10:17 PM
fitzfarm wrote:I'm sorry I think we are better wish dwill played more he gets to the line at will

He was missing layups and his defense is horrible.

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1/1/2016  10:18 PM
Eight points in the fourth quarter...really?
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1/1/2016  10:19 PM
We hsve been douged
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1/1/2016  10:20 PM
FINAL
CHI 108 NYK 81
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1/1/2016  10:20 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Sorry maybe it's just my hatred for the Bulls since watching them for 30 years.... But no way should we be losing by 20 lol more like 2-8 pts... Again I hate the bulls

they were crazy hot from the 3.

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1/1/2016  10:20 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:I'm sorry I think we are better wish dwill played more he gets to the line at will

He was missing layups and his defense is horrible.

True but again I'm a true fan I hate the Bulls with a passion 30 years of bs ... If only fish could get the effort that the Bulls put on the floor . I feel we would have crushed them.... I hate the ****ing Bulls

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1/1/2016  10:21 PM
TPercy wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Sorry maybe it's just my hatred for the Bulls since watching them for 30 years.... But no way should we be losing by 20 lol more like 2-8 pts... Again I hate the bulls

they were crazy hot from the 3.

Yea sucks, wish we came out stronger looks like we ran outta gas on defense

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1/1/2016  10:22 PM
it was that lineup with calderon, williams, seraphin, etc. that killed the knicks tonight. fisher trying to preserve the starters' legs but it backfired big time.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/1/2016  10:22 PM
To be fair though, this team isn't that balanced in talent.
We're really strong up front with Porzingis, Melo, Lopez, Thomas, Quinn, Williams, Seraphin even. In the backcourt it's gotten so bad that Calderon is playing almost 40 minutes in games. We don't have enough backcourt talent. We definitely need Phil to make a move, if he can get something good trade wise. Not sure if it's out there. Otherwise just have to wait until the offseason. With the roster as is, the window was 35-40 wins. I think we're not maximizing the talent on the roster, but it's not by that much. Even if this team played better offense tonight, they likely lose. You won't beat top 4-5 teams in the East on the road with our backcourt rotation. Calderon even played well today. Afflalo was MIA. Gallo so-so. Need at least 1 major talent at the 2 or 1 guard spot to get better.
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