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Knicks1969
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12/15/2015  3:50 PM
Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/15/2015  3:52 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


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http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

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12/15/2015  3:55 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

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Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/15/2015  3:59 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

fixed

Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

Do you agree that his lack of production stemmed from the inconsistent minutes he has been getting??

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/15/2015  4:25 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

fixed

Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

Do you agree that his lack of production stemmed from the inconsistent minutes he has been getting??

Hard to get into a rthhmn with inconsistent minutes but the hallmark of Williams career has been inconsistent play that has led to much time on pine. Blame is always on something other than his play. . Wss hoping that he'd reboot here and SL was encouraging . I could read the article but likely same old story that has been played out before and I have my own take. Knicks squad is not talented enough to not see what this kid can bring so give him a good stretch in rotation , they gave him a deal that said they saw upside so explore. He is not as athletic as many believe but he is a wide body with some skills and athleticism and has some versatility.. His boarding is abysmal for his body and that reeks of him not putting forth full effort at all times which is inexcusable. Yeh, give him another opportunity and ride out his play until he shows his wares whether good or bad .

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12/15/2015  4:27 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

fixed

Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

Do you agree that his lack of production stemmed from the inconsistent minutes he has been getting??

No. I think that it was his play and his decision making that will always be a factor that can potentially limit his minutes.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/15/2015  4:39 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

fixed

Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

Do you agree that his lack of production stemmed from the inconsistent minutes he has been getting??

No. I think that it was his play and his decision making that will always be a factor that can potentially limit his minutes.


Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I didnt like his sign, he's the great tease , tired of the rationale that he was the 2nd draft choice in whatever year as though that should somehow override however he performs. I look at someone like Lance Thomas who hustles all the time and has improved himself and actually get annoyed at MYSELF for my opinion being baited by a few decent stints by Williams. Yeh, give him more time to show , maybe he'll float for awhile
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12/15/2015  4:49 PM
meloanyk wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

fixed

Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

Do you agree that his lack of production stemmed from the inconsistent minutes he has been getting??

No. I think that it was his play and his decision making that will always be a factor that can potentially limit his minutes.


Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I didnt like his sign, he's the great tease , tired of the rationale that he was the 2nd draft choice in whatever year as though that should somehow override however he performs. I look at someone like Lance Thomas who hustles all the time and has improved himself and actually get annoyed at MYSELF for my opinion being baited by a few decent stints by Williams. Yeh, give him more time to show , maybe he'll float for awhile

yeah ... I feel the same way.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/15/2015  4:51 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

fixed

Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

Do you agree that his lack of production stemmed from the inconsistent minutes he has been getting??

No. I think that it was his play and his decision making that will always be a factor that can potentially limit his minutes.

I think it is unfair to judge this dude baseb on what he has done in the past. Yes, he WAS inconsistent and mistake prone. However, from his time here, I have not seen too many negatives about this kid. He is an energy dude with freakish athleticism. He runs the floor with gosto and appears to be a willing defender. It behooves the Knicks to take a good look at this dude and see if he is WORTHY.

We gave Lance the minutes to blossom and it is paying of; we are to TRY to do the same with Williams. I bet you if this dude was selected with a 20th pick, the expectation about this dude would have been far less. Gerald Green is a player I would compare to Williams; folks have found the patience to allow him to blossom.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/15/2015  5:11 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

fixed

Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

Do you agree that his lack of production stemmed from the inconsistent minutes he has been getting??

No. I think that it was his play and his decision making that will always be a factor that can potentially limit his minutes.

I think it is unfair to judge this dude baseb on what he has done in the past. Yes, he WAS inconsistent and mistake prone. However, from his time here, I have not seen too many negatives about this kid. He is an energy dude with freakish athleticism. He runs the floor with gosto and appears to be a willing defender. It behooves the Knicks to take a good look at this dude and see if he is WORTHY.

We gave Lance the minutes to blossom and it is paying of; we are to TRY to do the same with Williams. I bet you if this dude was selected with a 20th pick, the expectation about this dude would have been far less. Gerald Green is a player I would compare to Williams; folks have found the patience to allow him to blossom.

With all due respect, I dont find his athleticism to be freakish at all. He may not be slow slow but he is not exceptionally fast or quick, his lateral moveent is average and his lift is rather average despite he fancy dunks. Hee aint no jumpin jack Green nor a full bodied freak like Barkley. What he was in college was a wide body man mauling skinny sss kids with his girth and decent skillset . What the young vet needs to do is get a motor that doesnt sputter, use his body to full advantage on both ends, get a haircut and add some substance to the style

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12/15/2015  6:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/15/2015  6:44 PM
meloanyk wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.


http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams

fixed

Stupid article but I didn't read it

Kidding ... Fisher has been using DWill more lately and I think that he has showed positive signs. Lets hope it keeps up.

Do you agree that his lack of production stemmed from the inconsistent minutes he has been getting??

No. I think that it was his play and his decision making that will always be a factor that can potentially limit his minutes.

I think it is unfair to judge this dude baseb on what he has done in the past. Yes, he WAS inconsistent and mistake prone. However, from his time here, I have not seen too many negatives about this kid. He is an energy dude with freakish athleticism. He runs the floor with gosto and appears to be a willing defender. It behooves the Knicks to take a good look at this dude and see if he is WORTHY.

We gave Lance the minutes to blossom and it is paying of; we are to TRY to do the same with Williams. I bet you if this dude was selected with a 20th pick, the expectation about this dude would have been far less. Gerald Green is a player I would compare to Williams; folks have found the patience to allow him to blossom.

With all due respect, I dont find his athleticism to be freakish at all. He may not be slow slow but he is not exceptionally fast or quick, his lateral moveent is average and his lift is rather average despite he fancy dunks. Hee aint no jumpin jack Green nor a full bodied freak like Barkley. What he was in college was a wide body man mauling skinny sss kids with his girth and decent skillset . What the young vet needs to do is get a motor that doesnt sputter, use his body to full advantage on both ends, get a haircut and add some substance to the style

He is by far more athletic then anyone else on the roster. I know the dude has to put in the work, but he needs minutes to gain his confidence. I want to see what the dude can provide now that he is in NY. Give him some minutes next to Carmelo and KP, and let us see what he has.

Since many of you claimed in the past it is not necessary to have a great PG in the back court, perhaps we should try the following line up at times: Aflalo, Williams, Carmelo, KP, and KO; play Carmelo as the ball handler and deploy both Williams and KP to cause havoc.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/15/2015  8:09 PM
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12/15/2015  9:04 PM
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Someone will have to guard the opposing center, so you have to go with KO and move AA to run the point

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/15/2015  11:22 PM
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blkexec wrote:kp
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Someone will have to guard the opposing center, so you have to go with KO and move AA to run the point

Dude! AA is not a PG ... he is not even close to being able to be a PG. There are very few guards who pass less than him.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Knicks1969
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12/15/2015  11:55 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
blkexec wrote:kp
melo
dwill
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galo

Someone will have to guard the opposing center, so you have to go with KO and move AA to run the point

Dude! AA is not a PG ... he is not even close to being able to be a PG. There are very few guards who pass less than him.

I am well aware of that. Carmelo has been the main ball handler the last few games, so he can run the show. I THOUGHT many of you always claimed " the TRIANGLE doesn't require to have a PG!"

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/16/2015  5:40 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams


This is worth reading. It provides good detail.

On the other hand, the conclusion it draws could just as easily have been made (I made it) from the PER alone: 17.9 is 4th best on the team.

So my question all along has been whether there is something else going on that keeps Fisher from using Williams more.

I got no answer for that now.

Hopefully, Williams turns out to be one of the enigmas (Rodman, Odom) that every Jackson-Triangle team seems to have (and maybe needs ??).

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12/16/2015  5:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/16/2015  5:51 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Other then me not posting numbers to prove my points, it appears that this article is rehashing all I have been highlighting about this kid since the beginning of the season.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/12/15/10021276/the-knicks-offense-needs-more-derrick-williams


This is worth reading. It provides good detail.

On the other hand, the conclusion it draws could just as easily have been made (I made it) from the PER alone: 17.9 is 4th best on the team (Knicks only have 4 that are above NBA average).

So my question all along has been whether there is something else going on that keeps Fisher from using Williams more.

I got no answer for that now.

Hopefully, Williams turns out to be one of those enigmas (Rodman, Odom) that every Jackson-Triangle team seems to have (and maybe needs ??).

Here is a good read about Derrick Williams (mreinman)

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