Rolo also abused

Caseloads wrote:Melo and co Getting just assaulted here. I am in floor seats - all the fouling on melo not called is insane.

Rolo also abused

I'm jealous.....

But on the fouling, it seems like the refs in general don't call ticky tack fouls between the bigs....But when you touch the arm of a guard, it's a tech.

Caseloads wrote:the refs really were unfair in this one.

Melo gets grabbed, held, hit, pushed, shoved - no call

KP gets pulled, grabbed, shoved - no call

KOQ hit above the shoulders - in the neck - no call - that's a flagrant 2 to my understanding

Rolo hit/pulled above the shoulders - no call. I was just shocked.

I'm with you on this, but this is what the league wants. You're team is better suited these days if they are more perimeter oriented for that exact reason. As blk mentioned, you can't touch a guard these days. It's not even a start call. Bad guards get foul calls for anything resembling contact or a hand check. The star guards now get off the ball fouls consistently which is getting comical.

Pop went on a huge rant about the 3 (rules facilitate this) the other day. He'said 100% right. It's garbage and not basketball but you're being a fool of you'really not trying to adapt to it.

My only real problem last night was the no call on the hand check/arm bar/jersey grab by Rondo. The foul shoulda been called on the ground. It was a terrible no call based on how they officiate games these days.

fitzfarm wrote:The Knicks need to start making videos of all the missed calls and send them to the NBA offices .... I feel this is unfair ... I just want the Knicks to have the same advantage as the other teams

+1 - I agree that the Knicks don't do enough campaigning for calls. Fisher and Phil need to be more aggressive with it. Some of it unfortunately is how the league wants the game to be played. However, if you're going to build your team around front court players you should complain if they aren't getting calls.

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:The Knicks need to start making videos of all the missed calls and send them to the NBA offices .... I feel this is unfair ... I just want the Knicks to have the same advantage as the other teams

+1 - I agree that the Knicks don't do enough campaigning for calls. Fisher and Phil need to be more aggressive with it. Some of it unfortunately is how the league wants the game to be played. However, if you're going to build your team around front court players you should complain if they aren't getting calls.

This is what baffles me. Phil was notorious for working the officials on and before games when he was a coach. It seems or coaching staff and the FO does not want to do this.

fitzfarm wrote:The Knicks need to start making videos of all the missed calls and send them to the NBA offices .... I feel this is unfair ... I just want the Knicks to have the same advantage as the other teams

great idea ... wish that they would have thought of that.

NYKBocker wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:The Knicks need to start making videos of all the missed calls and send them to the NBA offices .... I feel this is unfair ... I just want the Knicks to have the same advantage as the other teams

+1 - I agree that the Knicks don't do enough campaigning for calls. Fisher and Phil need to be more aggressive with it. Some of it unfortunately is how the league wants the game to be played. However, if you're going to build your team around front court players you should complain if they aren't getting calls.

This is what baffles me. Phil was notorious for working the officials on and before games when he was a coach. It seems or coaching staff and the FO does not want to do this.

So for me this is a process, you can't just start squawking all the time and expect results. Player needs to bring it up through press, coach needs to start to speak up and get T's, tapes need to be sent, then GM/Pres needs to go to media.

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:The Knicks need to start making videos of all the missed calls and send them to the NBA offices .... I feel this is unfair ... I just want the Knicks to have the same advantage as the other teams

+1 - I agree that the Knicks don't do enough campaigning for calls. Fisher and Phil need to be more aggressive with it. Some of it unfortunately is how the league wants the game to be played. However, if you're going to build your team around front court players you should complain if they aren't getting calls.

This is what baffles me. Phil was notorious for working the officials on and before games when he was a coach. It seems or coaching staff and the FO does not want to do this.

So for me this is a process, you can't just start squawking all the time and expect results. Player needs to bring it up through press, coach needs to start to speak up and get T's, tapes need to be sent, then GM/Pres needs to go to media.

This. It should never get to the point where a player has to bring it up 1st. That is the coaches job and one I thought Fisher should have done a long time ago.

martin wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:The Knicks need to start making videos of all the missed calls and send them to the NBA offices .... I feel this is unfair ... I just want the Knicks to have the same advantage as the other teams

+1 - I agree that the Knicks don't do enough campaigning for calls. Fisher and Phil need to be more aggressive with it. Some of it unfortunately is how the league wants the game to be played. However, if you're going to build your team around front court players you should complain if they aren't getting calls.

This is what baffles me. Phil was notorious for working the officials on and before games when he was a coach. It seems or coaching staff and the FO does not want to do this.

So for me this is a process, you can't just start squawking all the time and expect results. Player needs to bring it up through press, coach needs to start to speak up and get T's, tapes need to be sent, then GM/Pres needs to go to media.

This. It should never get to the point where a player has to bring it up 1st. That is the coaches job and one I thought Fisher should have done a long time ago.

Dude has got some T's and he seems to be barking more but we really don't know what's going on on the sidelines. Gotta be careful with the Juice card

You see Fisher talking to the refs after bad calls on the Knicks all the time.

Have to choose your moments to complain...or you just seem like a whiner and lose credibility.

When everything is said and done, though...all you really want is consistency, and there seem to be big moments when we don't get the calls others seem to get.

Refs make a hooking call on Anthony vs Dallas at a crucial moment, but Cousins throws a short elbow that knocks down a player- Porzingis- who is not a flopper, and there is no whistle.

I've seen enough bad calls this year, not only in Knicks' games- to know that there seems to be a significant officiating problem. I posted a Tweet of James hacking one of the Nets on the arm while the ref is looking directly at the play and not calling a foul. Just don't understand some of the things I'm seeing- I try to imagine how a ref is processing in their mind what you can clearly see is a violation, but not calling a foul- and then calling a slight touch a foul.

The big moment fouls or non-fouls are what really gets to me, though.

that the smart thing to do (and which smart teams do) is compile the video and send it to league. Totally agree.