Caseloads wrote:I was on the court for the game (behind the knicks bench):

Dirk said it best - the knicks best line up is with KP at the 5, Melo at 4, lance at 3, afflalo at 2 and LG (shudder) at 1.
our problem is based on me watching from the court tonight:
KP is too tall and too thin/lanky. Cousins abused him and bullied him. There is Shawn Bradley in KP
knicks best offense is still ISO MELO - VERY SAD, BUT TRUE
no post game (ROLO is LOST on offense when he gets the ball)
Afflalo is just old - his best days are behind him. He doesn't have young legs and doesn't get lift on his jumper and that is the reason / one of the reasons we lost tonight
LG can't hit a jump shot
Calderon can't defend.
We don't get foul calls
We don't get steals
basically we have no defenders and no offensive players (other than melo), and no athletic players. also the players are not engaged (Fisher's fault). There was no real "coaching" in the game. Standing on the sidelines is not coaching.
we are screwed.
PS - MELO does get hacked and does not get calls. The refs are against the knicks, which is sad, but true. Pulling, tugging, etc on the knicks and no calls.

There was no triangle being run.

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Melo, actually rotates well in this play....is in the right spot...and then....jumps out of the way. Rondo is shooting 50% from the line this season. Foul him if you don't think you can stop him. This is a big reason why KP at the 5 with Melo at the 4 doesn't work.

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WTF is Rolo doing here? Who was he guarding?

Andrew wrote:

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Melo, actually rotates well in this play....is in the right spot...and then....jumps out of the way. Rondo is shooting 50% from the line this season. Foul him if you don't think you can stop him. This is a big reason why KP at the 5 with Melo at the 4 doesn't work.

knicks1248 wrote:KP has his back to the ball handler on some Amare sht.

No. Not even close. KP was fronting Cousins and for a split second spun to get around him. You are grasping there.

CrushAlot wrote:

Caseloads wrote:I was on the court for the game (behind the knicks bench):

Dirk said it best - the knicks best line up is with KP at the 5, Melo at 4, lance at 3, afflalo at 2 and LG (shudder) at 1.
our problem is based on me watching from the court tonight:
KP is too tall and too thin/lanky. Cousins abused him and bullied him. There is Shawn Bradley in KP
knicks best offense is still ISO MELO - VERY SAD, BUT TRUE
no post game (ROLO is LOST on offense when he gets the ball)
Afflalo is just old - his best days are behind him. He doesn't have young legs and doesn't get lift on his jumper and that is the reason / one of the reasons we lost tonight
LG can't hit a jump shot
Calderon can't defend.
We don't get foul calls
We don't get steals
basically we have no defenders and no offensive players (other than melo), and no athletic players. also the players are not engaged (Fisher's fault). There was no real "coaching" in the game. Standing on the sidelines is not coaching.
we are screwed.
PS - MELO does get hacked and does not get calls. The refs are against the knicks, which is sad, but true. Pulling, tugging, etc on the knicks and no calls.

There was no triangle being run.

Thanks for sharing the observations. It sounds like you had good seats Were you close enough to hear Fisher during time outs?

Andrew wrote:

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Melo, actually rotates well in this play....is in the right spot...and then....jumps out of the way. Rondo is shooting 50% from the line this season. Foul him if you don't think you can stop him. This is a big reason why KP at the 5 with Melo at the 4 doesn't work.

Why does Melo even jump at that point if he's not going to contest? He should've at least fouled him, guaranteed to miss 1 at least...

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Andrew wrote:

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Melo, actually rotates well in this play....is in the right spot...and then....jumps out of the way. Rondo is shooting 50% from the line this season. Foul him if you don't think you can stop him. This is a big reason why KP at the 5 with Melo at the 4 doesn't work.

You can also make a case that Cousins set a moving pick on Porzingis on this play. Subtle, but he effectively kept KP from getting into the play. Clever read of the positioning by Rondo, though.

KP has his back to the ball handler on some Amare sht.

Trying to prevent the entry pass to Cousins...had a couple of tips doing this in the game, if you noticed them.

knicks1248 wrote:

Andrew wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:KP has his back to the ball handler on some Amare sht.

No. Not even close. KP was fronting Cousins and for a split second spun to get around him. You are grasping there.

Are you you kidding me, he did try to front him, but he turned his back on rondo for a second and ronda recognize it quickly. Not only was kp in a bad position to help, he essentially screened calderon from defending rondo as Calderon gave him a couple feet probably thinking kp would face front cousins and slide over to cut off the base line.

Calderon is in a better position if rondo decides to go right, and again rondo reads it well, and goes left. where's the help

Not a perfect defensive play from the rookie, but you compared it to the Amare play where he turned his back on the guy with the ball. Not even close.

Tempo/pacing still sucked - no hustling or sense of urgency until the late 4th.
Why not give D.Williams more minutes - especially against his old team?
Melo did keep us in the game (at that slow pace where he brings the ball up and everybody picks a spot to glue themselves to)
Melo is not Lebron or Jordan - those players would not have missed a 7'2" player right under the basket on the last play
Melo's play at tne end is like the 4th problem the Knicks should work on
It was positively surprising how well KP did against Cousins in the 4th - maybe he can play some minutes at the 5 w/o getting abused
Add all these up and it's hard not to assign some blame to the coach