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Andrew
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12/9/2015  11:26 PM
...said Clyde during the end of the game. Fisher talked about sustained effort, and the inability for guys to do that. Right now Melo, AA, and Rolo just are not bringing the required intensity to make this team competative. When Calderon is showing more fire you got issues.

Sasha, lou, and thomas are the only 3 guys that give that 100% effort and posess a high activity level regardless. We need guys like that, but ones that also have a high skill level.

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12/9/2015  11:30 PM
Andrew wrote:...said Clyde during the end of the game. Fisher talked about sustained effort, and the inability for guys to do that. Right now Melo, AA, and Rolo just are not bringing the required intensity to make this team competative. When Calderon is showing more fire you got issues.

Sasha, lou, and thomas are the only 3 guys that give that 100% effort and posess a high activity level regardless. We need guys like that, but ones that also have a high skill level.

Agree Lopez has been a disaster--what a mistake signing a back up to a 54mm contract. Isiah Thomas like. The last 60 minutes over 3 games he has 3 rebounds.

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12/9/2015  11:30 PM
Andrew wrote:...said Clyde during the end of the game. Fisher talked about sustained effort, and the inability for guys to do that. Right now Melo, AA, and Rolo just are not bringing the required intensity to make this team competative. When Calderon is showing more fire you got issues.

Sasha, lou, and thomas are the only 3 guys that give that 100% effort and posess a high activity level regardless. We need guys like that, but ones that also have a high skill level.

What about adjusting the starting 5? Start KO for a change and see how that works out. KO is very vocal and he is an enforcer.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/9/2015  11:33 PM
Clyde is wearing out the words "audacious" and "auspicious". His verbal play is starting to get under my skin
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12/9/2015  11:36 PM
meloanyk wrote:Clyde is wearing out the words "audacious" and "auspicious". His verbal play is starting to get under my skin

Lmfao

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/9/2015  11:39 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Andrew wrote:...said Clyde during the end of the game. Fisher talked about sustained effort, and the inability for guys to do that. Right now Melo, AA, and Rolo just are not bringing the required intensity to make this team competative. When Calderon is showing more fire you got issues.

Sasha, lou, and thomas are the only 3 guys that give that 100% effort and posess a high activity level regardless. We need guys like that, but ones that also have a high skill level.

What about adjusting the starting 5? Start KO for a change and see how that works out. KO is very vocal and he is an enforcer.

KO has to earn it IMO, and early in the season i thought he played some very low energy games. Added to that i think KP Needs to stay at the 4 to start games. It may sound crazy, but i think Sasha for AA right now if he can't get his legs under him.

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12/9/2015  11:44 PM
Andrew wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Andrew wrote:...said Clyde during the end of the game. Fisher talked about sustained effort, and the inability for guys to do that. Right now Melo, AA, and Rolo just are not bringing the required intensity to make this team competative. When Calderon is showing more fire you got issues.

Sasha, lou, and thomas are the only 3 guys that give that 100% effort and posess a high activity level regardless. We need guys like that, but ones that also have a high skill level.

What about adjusting the starting 5? Start KO for a change and see how that works out. KO is very vocal and he is an enforcer.

KO has to earn it IMO, and early in the season i thought he played some very low energy games. Added to that i think KP Needs to stay at the 4 to start games. It may sound crazy, but i think Sasha for AA right now if he can't get his legs under him.

Who is currently earning minutes other then KP and Lance? To be honest, they are the only two who have been consistent. Sit RoLo and play KO. Augment Williams minutes and this team will look way different. KP needs to play the PF spot with KO at the 5. He is a hell of a passer, and he is a better scorer/finisher then RoLo

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/9/2015  11:46 PM
I honestly think the road game in Miami messed with their heads. They have not been the same team since then. 2-7 since the Miami game. To me Miami is always a bellweather game for Melo's Knicks. Win and they go on a nice run, lose and they go into a funk.

The team is not this bad. They are struggling right now, things seem tough. It won't stay this bad. But they need to figure some things out.

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12/9/2015  11:47 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Andrew wrote:...said Clyde during the end of the game. Fisher talked about sustained effort, and the inability for guys to do that. Right now Melo, AA, and Rolo just are not bringing the required intensity to make this team competative. When Calderon is showing more fire you got issues.

Sasha, lou, and thomas are the only 3 guys that give that 100% effort and posess a high activity level regardless. We need guys like that, but ones that also have a high skill level.

What about adjusting the starting 5? Start KO for a change and see how that works out. KO is very vocal and he is an enforcer.

KO has to earn it IMO, and early in the season i thought he played some very low energy games. Added to that i think KP Needs to stay at the 4 to start games. It may sound crazy, but i think Sasha for AA right now if he can't get his legs under him.

Who is currently earning minutes other then KP and Lance? To be honest, they are the only two who have been consistent. Sit RoLo and play KO. Augment Williams minutes and this team will look way different. KP needs to play the PF spot with KO at the 5. He is a hell of a passer, and he is a better scorer/finisher then RoLo

I would actually be very curious to see KOQ start next to KP. That's an interesting idea.

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12/9/2015  11:51 PM
At the end of the game, I noticed fisher pull KO to the side to speak with him. Maybe fisher has finally seen the light:)))). He would earn my respect if the dude were to simply what I and others have been saying all season: pick 11 men and ride them for no less then 15 minutes per game. Use a total of 10 games to see if the 11 dudes can develop chemistry. The Yoyo lineups we have seen from the start killed our players' spirit
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/10/2015  12:02 AM
Until recently the Knicks had good defensive energy and chemistry. Their main problems came at the offensive end and not on D. It seems like the frustrations on offense have started to impact the defense.

This team hasn't been blown out a lot despite struggling to score consistently. Thing is MELO has to play MUCH better or things will be tough. Most teams rely on their top players and we're no different. MELO has been below his career levels and that puts pressure on other guys. MELO made it worse by forcing things rather than play decoy and setup his teammates. He has to play smarter.

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12/10/2015  12:04 AM
Knicks1969 wrote: pick 11 men and ride them for no less then 15 minutes per game. Use a total of 10 games to see if the 11 dudes can develop chemistry. The Yoyo lineups we have seen from the start killed our players' spirit

Thats basically what fisher has done for the past 6 games (blowouts not withstanding). Oquinn lost out to Seraphin, who heated up at first but has now cooled.

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12/10/2015  12:11 AM
Ah, don't worry, guys, this team just needs to "gel". :-[
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12/10/2015  12:14 AM
Andrew wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote: pick 11 men and ride them for no less then 15 minutes per game. Use a total of 10 games to see if the 11 dudes can develop chemistry. The Yoyo lineups we have seen from the start killed our players' spirit

Thats basically what fisher has done for the past 6 games (blowouts not withstanding). Oquinn lost out to Seraphin, who heated up at first but has now cooled.

We've got deeper problems than just Fish's rotations. There are guys we brought in who are not getting it done and on top of that MELO is not leading the team as the kind of dependable top scorer he's supposed to be.

The offense is broken and it's dragging down the defense. As someone said Jose was the best starter tonight and that's saying something about how bad they were.

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12/10/2015  12:16 AM
I think the knicks need to rely on small ball more. I'm not mad at RoLo either he's been getting into foul trouble early because he asked to do too much and cover a lot of less than stellar perimeter defenders.
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12/10/2015  1:24 AM
The Knicks need to communicate more on Defense from the very start of the game. They were doing that earlier in the season and the defense was looking good and kept them in games even when their shooting collectively wasn't great at times. And they have to return to a more aggressive style of offense and attack the rim more. Attack and at least TRY to finish. I'm not one of the guys that wants to fire Fisher just yet. But his comment about possibly tinkering with the starting lineup kind of sounded to me like a lack of accountability on his own part. He HAS to re-think their offensive strategy. Relying too heavily on outside shots, especially when the other guys are not in good rebounding positions, is never going to win a whole lot of games.
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12/10/2015  9:09 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2015  9:14 AM
This is all on Fisher. He's got to stay on top of things and make adjustments. He did well starting the season, but as some pointed out, that miami game took the heart from the team. It's Fishers job to make adjustments not keep running the same crew hoping they can work threw it. Knicks are losing because of effort. Heads might have to roll.

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12/10/2015  9:13 AM
Easy fix, insert Lance and take RoLo out the starting lineup.

Lance hustles, plays D, and can hit the 3. He's our 3 and D guy. Our homeless man's Draymond that can guard 3 or 4 positions on switches, can bring the ball up, and can hit the corner 3 as well.

Robin Lopez signing has been a bust this season...

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12/10/2015  9:19 AM
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Andrew wrote:...said Clyde during the end of the game. Fisher talked about sustained effort, and the inability for guys to do that. Right now Melo, AA, and Rolo just are not bringing the required intensity to make this team competative. When Calderon is showing more fire you got issues.

Sasha, lou, and thomas are the only 3 guys that give that 100% effort and posess a high activity level regardless. We need guys like that, but ones that also have a high skill level.

Agree Lopez has been a disaster--what a mistake signing a back up to a 54mm contract. Isiah Thomas like. The last 60 minutes over 3 games he has 3 rebounds.

I get that Lopez has under achieved but the 800 pound gorilla is Melo' s game going down the tube.

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12/10/2015  9:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2015  9:35 AM
Andrew wrote:...said Clyde during the end of the game. Fisher talked about sustained effort, and the inability for guys to do that. Right now Melo, AA, and Rolo just are not bringing the required intensity to make this team competative. When Calderon is showing more fire you got issues.

Sasha, lou, and thomas are the only 3 guys that give that 100% effort and posess a high activity level regardless. We need guys like that, but ones that also have a high skill level.

I agree.....

I think Fisher's decision on the starting 5 was not based on energy.....

Then we sat Sasha, Lou, KOQ.....who are the energy guys. His development on Grant has been terrible....he's another energy guy.

So without Fisher even knowing it, he created a starting unit of low energy guys......Then he reduced the minutes of high energy guys off the bench.

And the only time he plays high energy guys, is when we are down trying to make a come back.

On top of all that.....The roster is lacking high energy guys, with solid basketball skills. Most good teams have high energy players with starter type skill sets. Our energy guys do not have top notch skills.....Which is why Fisher's hands are tied up. He's stuck between playing skilled guys.....vs.....energy guys.

Moving forward, Phil needs to add energy skilled players.....There are plenty of these guys in the NBA right now, not getting any burn. There will be some in free agency next season.

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