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mreinman
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11/30/2015  4:44 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
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newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

his chances of being as good as harden is 1 in 1000


And since Manu is also a possible future HoF'er, i think a better version of Jamal Crawford is most accurate. Let's not forget he was a 20 ppg guy in his prime and will gets some assists and rebs too. A better/more complete crawford is a top 10 SG in the league.

Ok ... not for me. Don't care for Jamal at all.

Perhaps Russell can be a cross between Rondo and Nick Buckets? Ich!

Russell is not a chucker he is a facilitator.


Maybe more of a Goran Dragic then? Play-maker and fringe all-star on a good year. 17 ppg/5 assist/5 rebound kind of player.

very nice comp actually ... Russell IMHO will be a better passer but again, nice comp

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/30/2015  10:18 PM
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11/30/2015  10:35 PM
from the article cited in the twit:

"A lot of teams do that for their players anyway,'' a source close to Okafor said. "So from now on, the Sixers are going to have someone at his disposal full-time.''

just breathtaking entitlement. you have to wonder how spoiled his extended circle is.

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11/30/2015  10:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/30/2015  10:45 PM
dk7th wrote:from the article cited in the twit:

"A lot of teams do that for their players anyway,'' a source close to Okafor said. "So from now on, the Sixers are going to have someone at his disposal full-time.''

just breathtaking entitlement. you have to wonder how spoiled his extended circle is.

Isn't the article talking about a security guard? I don't think they are providing a man servant named Jeeves who is making the guy tea and rubbing his feet. If the Sixers feel like people will target him on the street I think it's fair to have a bodyguard of sorts following him around making sure stuff doesn't get out of hand. I don't even think this is necessarily a bad thing even if all the stuff about his mental state and maturity you are speculating about is true. Seems more that Philly is trying to protect their asset. If he is an immature jackass then all they can do is try to change that and keeping him away from hecklers isn't a bad idea.

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11/30/2015  10:52 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
dk7th wrote:from the article cited in the twit:

"A lot of teams do that for their players anyway,'' a source close to Okafor said. "So from now on, the Sixers are going to have someone at his disposal full-time.''

just breathtaking entitlement. you have to wonder how spoiled his extended circle is.

Isn't the article talking about a security guard? I don't think they are providing a man servant named Jeeves who is making the guy tea and rubbing his feet. If the Sixers feel like people will target him on the street I think it's fair to have a bodyguard of sorts following him around making sure stuff doesn't get out of hand. I don't even think this is necessarily a bad thing even if all the stuff about his mental state and maturity you are speculating about is true. Seems more that Philly is trying to protect their asset. If he is an immature jackass then all they can do is try to change that and keeping him away from hecklers isn't a bad idea.

i am referring to the quoted member close to okafor and that member's attitude manifested in the phrase "at his disposal", regardless of whether it's a bodyguard for okafor, or a chaperone, or a babysitter.

maybe this person simply used a poor choice of words, but i kind of doubt it. seems like his so-called "support system" is as part of the problem.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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11/30/2015  11:02 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.


Russell is in a tough situation with the make-up of the Lakers. Kobe will be gone next year, and if Russell shows any late season promise they will have to make some other roster changes...too many guys who like to shoot on that team.

MUCH too early to consider Russell, or anyone else, to be bustworthy, as you yourself noted before making a quick turn and saying that Russell will keep the bust "streak" alive.

Snap judgement is a great radio show...http://snapjudgment.org/, but not the way to go when evaluating NBA players.

Maybe Russell never lives up to the hype, but we have a few years before we know what kind of player he really is.

That comment about keeping the bust streak alive was only based on this current point in time. But I agree with you its premature to even speak the words bust.

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12/1/2015  2:34 AM
crzymdups wrote:

Means that he'll now have someone around to buy his liquor without him needing a fake ID...and if drunk, he'll have a trusted designated driver.

No fine...no suspension...no mandated intervention with an addiction counselor...this is how to coddle and enable a young athlete.


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12/1/2015  5:26 AM
Glad that we got KP.
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12/1/2015  5:52 AM
dk7th wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
dk7th wrote:from the article cited in the twit:

"A lot of teams do that for their players anyway,'' a source close to Okafor said. "So from now on, the Sixers are going to have someone at his disposal full-time.''

just breathtaking entitlement. you have to wonder how spoiled his extended circle is.

Isn't the article talking about a security guard? I don't think they are providing a man servant named Jeeves who is making the guy tea and rubbing his feet. If the Sixers feel like people will target him on the street I think it's fair to have a bodyguard of sorts following him around making sure stuff doesn't get out of hand. I don't even think this is necessarily a bad thing even if all the stuff about his mental state and maturity you are speculating about is true. Seems more that Philly is trying to protect their asset. If he is an immature jackass then all they can do is try to change that and keeping him away from hecklers isn't a bad idea.

i am referring to the quoted member close to okafor and that member's attitude manifested in the phrase "at his disposal", regardless of whether it's a bodyguard for okafor, or a chaperone, or a babysitter.

maybe this person simply used a poor choice of words, but i kind of doubt it. seems like his so-called "support system" is as part of the problem.

Ah, I see what you're saying.

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12/1/2015  7:05 AM
“He’s been pretty much as advertised, no surprises,’’ one NBA scout told The Post. “The surprise is off the court.’’

“I’m sure Philly is stunned,’’ one league executive said. “Everyone knows how much background checks they did on him.’’

http://nypost.com/2015/12/01/phil-jackson-wouldve-snubbed-porzingis-for-troubled-okafor/
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
Video: Jahlil Okafor Gets Into Fight In Boston and Punches a heckler

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