[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Lou Admundson deserves to be 4th big
Author Thread
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
11/12/2015  9:08 AM
They guy is a producer ever since he joined this team. Id like to see Lou stay out of FT--Id like to see what he can do given 24-26 minutes a couple of nights. I think he can surprise.
RIP Crushalot😞
AUTOADVERT
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
11/12/2015  12:29 PM
The thing I've always liked about Lou is his activity level and his BBall IQ. He's a willing passer and that is huge for this offense. He won't take a shot unless it's the right play to make. He's the opposite of Seraphin IMO. Lou is more like RoLo in how he plays the game. Does the grunt work and is unselfish.
mreinman
Posts: 37827
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/14/2010
Member: #3189

11/12/2015  1:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/12/2015  1:12 PM
I like Lou but he cant really defend well so we need to be careful when we play him
so here is what phil is thinking ....
babyKnicks
Posts: 22486
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/31/2006
Member: #1191
USA
11/12/2015  1:07 PM
Hmmm...i would have to think about this one...who would be the fifth big again? I think Sarafin has been doing very well coming back from injury. He has the defense I like to have in the paint to alter and/or block shots.

O'Quinn is rough and rugged...we need that at times. RoLo is the starter, and i like his game more and more.

I like Lou as the 5th big and contributor when we have back to backs and need to rest others.

At this stage of the season, I have not seen anything that indicates Lou is more than the 5th big on the team.

Sorry briggs.

over the last week, your knee jerk reactionary changes to the line up reek of a rookie coach looking for a high draft pick and reading the box scores more than watching the games.

But hey, opinion alert. :)

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
11/12/2015  2:05 PM
babyKnicks wrote:Hmmm...i would have to think about this one...who would be the fifth big again? I think Sarafin has been doing very well coming back from injury. He has the defense I like to have in the paint to alter and/or block shots.

O'Quinn is rough and rugged...we need that at times. RoLo is the starter, and i like his game more and more.

I like Lou as the 5th big and contributor when we have back to backs and need to rest others.

At this stage of the season, I have not seen anything that indicates Lou is more than the 5th big on the team.

Sorry briggs.

over the last week, your knee jerk reactionary changes to the line up reek of a rookie coach looking for a high draft pick and reading the box scores more than watching the games.

But hey, opinion alert. :)

Hmm. Few things Ive noticed with the Knicks

They are simply not getting to the FL line--they are not playing with pace and they are scoring less. When you decrease Williams minutes you essentially remove what appears to be the best guy on the team in terms of creating contact and FT trips. Admundson also tens to be a guy who creates contact. We dont really have a post scorer--I think Admundson might be the best of the lot right now. He also is one of the 2-3 players who run triangle plays the right way.

Ive watches Seraphin--and I dont like his pace nor do I like his selfish play hes also over weight.

Weve played reasonable well defensively but 5 out of the last 6 under 100 and the differential is negative. We need more offense and we need to get to the FT line.

RIP Crushalot😞
babyKnicks
Posts: 22486
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/31/2006
Member: #1191
USA
11/12/2015  2:34 PM
What do the numbers say? Seraphin has played strong defense. And has a pretty strong shooting percentage.
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
martin
Posts: 76529
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
11/12/2015  2:41 PM
babyKnicks wrote:What do the numbers say? Seraphin has played strong defense. And has a pretty strong shooting percentage.

36% is a pretty strong shooting percentage? Also seems like he turns the ball over at the worst times and misses defensive assignments. And is a black hole on offense.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
yellowboy90
Posts: 33942
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/23/2011
Member: #3538

11/12/2015  2:52 PM
The 4th big over Serephin, yes. I think he should get minutes versus the Cavs to match up with Thompson. In the future the Knicks need one athletic big man ala Taj Gibson or Plumper(Portland). That's why I wanted N'dour in the system. He had Gibson potential imho.
mreinman
Posts: 37827
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/14/2010
Member: #3189

11/12/2015  3:31 PM
martin wrote:
babyKnicks wrote:What do the numbers say? Seraphin has played strong defense. And has a pretty strong shooting percentage.

36% is a pretty strong shooting percentage? Also seems like he turns the ball over at the worst times and misses defensive assignments. And is a black hole on offense.

His TS is .357. That is not just not good, its not really even possible to be that bad.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Kemet
Posts: 22087
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 9/23/2015
Member: #6148

11/12/2015  3:34 PM
I like Lou when we need rebounds.
Lou does not have the defensive talent to force opponents to change their shot selection when slashing to the hoop.
Fisher .. taking Lopez out the game to replace him with Lou, then taking Quinn out the game to replace him Lou is one of the reason the Knicks lost to the Hornets. Poor coaching by not knowing what Lou brings to the team. The Hornets scored 40 pts from inside scoring, we only scored 28 pts from inside
mreinman
Posts: 37827
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/14/2010
Member: #3189

11/12/2015  3:35 PM
Kemet wrote:I like Lou when we need rebounds.
Lou does not have the defensive talent to force opponents to change their shot selection when slashing to the hoop.
Fisher .. taking Lopez out the game to replace him with Lou, then taking Quinn out the game to replace him Lou is one of the reason the Knicks lost to the Hornets. Poor coaching by not knowing what Lou brings to the team. The Hornets scored 40 pts from inside scoring, we only scored 28 pts from inside

you wanna play lopez more than 30 minutes on a back to back? No way ... this was not a playoff game.

Pace.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Kemet
Posts: 22087
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 9/23/2015
Member: #6148

11/12/2015  3:42 PM
With Lou added to the rotation, then Lopez n Quinn shouldve back each other up.
Lou, Seraphin, n D.Will shouldve backup Zingis n Melo
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
11/12/2015  3:46 PM
Admunson is the 14th man in any logical rotation
ES
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
11/12/2015  3:49 PM
I dislike Seraphin a lot.

I think O'Quinn is definitely the 3rd big.

I don't have an issue playing Amundson some - though I agree with those saying he's not great on defense. Don't get me wrong, he hustles a lot and tries his best, but he often just gets flat out beat on defense.

I think he's good as an energy spark type guy - I would never play him more than like ten minutes a night though, unless there's an injury.

He does understand the Triangle, which is huge.

¿ △ ?
mreinman
Posts: 37827
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/14/2010
Member: #3189

11/12/2015  3:52 PM
crzymdups wrote:I dislike Seraphin a lot.

I think O'Quinn is definitely the 3rd big.

I don't have an issue playing Amundson some - though I agree with those saying he's not great on defense. Don't get me wrong, he hustles a lot and tries his best, but he often just gets flat out beat on defense.

I think he's good as an energy spark type guy - I would never play him more than like ten minutes a night though, unless there's an injury.

He does understand the Triangle, which is huge.

agree but capping a guy at 10 minutes really does not make sense. It would all depend on matchups and how bad he is getting beat. If he is holding his own on defense (big if) then the other parts of his game is really helpful.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
martin
Posts: 76529
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
11/12/2015  4:04 PM
Kemet wrote:I like Lou when we need rebounds.
Lou does not have the defensive talent to force opponents to change their shot selection when slashing to the hoop.
Fisher .. taking Lopez out the game to replace him with Lou, then taking Quinn out the game to replace him Lou is one of the reason the Knicks lost to the Hornets. Poor coaching by not knowing what Lou brings to the team. The Hornets scored 40 pts from inside scoring, we only scored 28 pts from inside

Lou brings hustle, team defense, and also knows where to be in the triangle. He is not a 1-on-1 stopper but a solid'ish defender. Great help defender. Great motor. Never stops the ball in the triangle. Never does anything outside of his wheelhouse.

Lou is the guy both Seraphin and DWill should be emulating. And I gotta guess it's the reason he is getting minutes over both of those guys even though he is much less talented. He's the carrot stick for both of those guy's playing time.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
Kemet
Posts: 22087
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 9/23/2015
Member: #6148

11/12/2015  4:28 PM
crzymdups wrote:I dislike Seraphin a lot.

I think O'Quinn is definitely the 3rd big.

I don't have an issue playing Amundson some - though I agree with those saying he's not great on defense. Don't get me wrong, he hustles a lot and tries his best, but he often just gets flat out beat on defense.

I think he's good as an energy spark type guy - I would never play him more than like ten minutes a night though, unless there's an injury.

He does understand the Triangle, which is huge.


Good point .. Amundson experience should be in the starting lineup with Lopez & Melo, receiving 12 to 10 minute a playintime a night, bc we have big man depth.
We should not have a rookie starting or finishing a game, we are the expensive Knicks who can afford to always be over the cap. The NBA league are water-down enough from so many small-market teams starting rookies n d.league players, plus every NBA big man wanting to be like Steph Curry n shoot 3 balls all night.

mreinman
Posts: 37827
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/14/2010
Member: #3189

11/12/2015  4:34 PM
Kemet wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I dislike Seraphin a lot.

I think O'Quinn is definitely the 3rd big.

I don't have an issue playing Amundson some - though I agree with those saying he's not great on defense. Don't get me wrong, he hustles a lot and tries his best, but he often just gets flat out beat on defense.

I think he's good as an energy spark type guy - I would never play him more than like ten minutes a night though, unless there's an injury.

He does understand the Triangle, which is huge.


Good point .. Amundson experience should be in the starting lineup with Lopez & Melo, receiving 12 to 10 minute a playintime a night, bc we have big man depth.
We should not have a rookie starting or finishing a game, we are the expensive Knicks who can afford to always be over the cap. The NBA league are water-down enough from so many small-market teams starting rookies n d.league players, plus every NBA big man wanting to be like Steph Curry n shoot 3 balls all night.

Ok ... that post got me needing a nap.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Kemet
Posts: 22087
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 9/23/2015
Member: #6148

11/12/2015  4:35 PM
martin wrote:
Kemet wrote:I like Lou when we need rebounds.
Lou does not have the defensive talent to force opponents to change their shot selection when slashing to the hoop.
Fisher .. taking Lopez out the game to replace him with Lou, then taking Quinn out the game to replace him Lou is one of the reason the Knicks lost to the Hornets. Poor coaching by not knowing what Lou brings to the team. The Hornets scored 40 pts from inside scoring, we only scored 28 pts from inside

Lou brings hustle, team defense, and also knows where to be in the triangle. He is not a 1-on-1 stopper but a solid'ish defender. Great help defender. Great motor. Never stops the ball in the triangle. Never does anything outside of his wheelhouse.

Lou is the guy both Seraphin and DWill should be emulating. And I gotta guess it's the reason he is getting minutes over both of those guys even though he is much less talented. He's the carrot stick for both of those guy's playing time.


Lou all around hustle is great as a SF, when Lou have to defend a Jefferson or Zeller or Valanciunas in the paint his hustle dont stop them from scoring.

martin
Posts: 76529
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
11/12/2015  4:39 PM
Kemet wrote:
martin wrote:
Kemet wrote:I like Lou when we need rebounds.
Lou does not have the defensive talent to force opponents to change their shot selection when slashing to the hoop.
Fisher .. taking Lopez out the game to replace him with Lou, then taking Quinn out the game to replace him Lou is one of the reason the Knicks lost to the Hornets. Poor coaching by not knowing what Lou brings to the team. The Hornets scored 40 pts from inside scoring, we only scored 28 pts from inside

Lou brings hustle, team defense, and also knows where to be in the triangle. He is not a 1-on-1 stopper but a solid'ish defender. Great help defender. Great motor. Never stops the ball in the triangle. Never does anything outside of his wheelhouse.

Lou is the guy both Seraphin and DWill should be emulating. And I gotta guess it's the reason he is getting minutes over both of those guys even though he is much less talented. He's the carrot stick for both of those guy's playing time.


Lou all around hustle is great as a SF, when Lou have to defend a Jefferson or Zeller or Valanciunas in the paint his hustle dont stop them from scoring.

Was he regularly guarding those guys? Lou was in with KOQ and he would have been the guy on those 3.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
Lou Admundson deserves to be 4th big

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy