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11/10/2015  10:49 AM
This has been a concern for me ever since they started talking about KP needing to gain weight. Just going by history, you don't want a 7'+ man gaining a lot of weight as this could affect their feet. Yao Ming had problems and same with Shaq. Plus the run and jump game of KP will be hard on his feet. He is currently 240lbs as per http://www.nba.com/knicks/roster. I was looking at the weight of other PFs or Cs and I think he should follow the playing weight of Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. This should hopefully prolong his playing career.

Kevin Garnett - 6'11" - 254 lbs
Tim Duncan - 6'11" - 256 lbs
Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 7'2" - 225 lbs
Patrick Ewing - 7' - 240 lbs

I think KP has the right weight now. He just needs to get stronger.
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11/10/2015  11:23 AM
I doubt he'd approach Yao ming type probelems. Ming was engineered in a lab and at 7-6 his feet could not sustain the body mass.
Shaq missed more games as he got into his 30's.
Kareem was a freak to play into his 40's.
Ewing,KG and Duncan were great athletes. Came in skinny too!!!!
All the above in the HOF!

IN fact, GOAT might actually be him, 6 time MVP to go with 6 rings. No doubt Lakers had a great supporting cast, but can't one say that about every multiple winning player or coach?

Clinch might be 3 straight NCAA titles. It would have been 4 but freshman did not play varsity back in the day!
All subjective. Russell had more. Wilt statistically was way ahead of anyone but "Only" had 2 rings.

Odds are big men get bad backs, knees and feet. KP will likely have his issues as well enroute to his HOF enshrinement!!!!

Loved Yao and wish he could have fulfilled his NBA potential if stayed healthy!
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11/10/2015  11:47 AM
NO mention of the Admiral?

7'1 and 235 lbs, shredded to the absolute bone.
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11/10/2015  11:50 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:NO mention of the Admiral?

7'1 and 235 lbs, shredded to the absolute bone.

Hard to believe that he was only 235lbs...especially with muscle weighing more than fat.

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11/10/2015  11:53 AM
This is a good point. People continue to talk about him "putting on weight" but in reality he needs to put on muscle, so hopefully 10-15lbs, no more then that.
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11/10/2015  11:58 AM
I think he will add some weight and size as he grows. He's strong enough now to compete - I would let him add weight naturally.

I think tonight's matchup against Jonas Valanciunas will be interesting. Jonas has a good 15 lbs on him and is 7'0".

But I sort of think going for the Kareem or KG mix of long, lean strength will better suit KP's game than adding too much mass. Adding weight to that frame, you start to worry about knee or back injuries and more wear and tear.

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11/10/2015  12:01 PM
lean and long, keep him at the 4, put muscle at the 5. I have no problem with Rolo and KOQ splitting the 5 with KP at the 4. Let him roam and destroy
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11/10/2015  12:07 PM
I'm thinking that 255lbs should be an upper limit, but a muscled 250lbs might be an optimum weight at this point.

Hard to tell how his body will mature at this point in time. Maturity and muscle will help him maintain his quickness as he puts on the weight, but there has to be a point where the added weight becomes a detriment, and you expect that it is his defensive game which will be affected.

He managed to put on the 20+ without any negative effects on his game, so you have to trust that he and his trainers know what they are doing.

During the season you just hope that he maintains his weight.

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11/10/2015  12:29 PM
10 lbs over the next 2 years shouldn't be a problem nor should it cause much complication, if any at all, as long as it's muscle. I don't think he really needs to put on much more than that, unless they plan on sliding him over to the Center at some point. Personally I wouldn't do that, but that's just me. Keep playing him next to Centers who are just naturally wider and who play very physical and KP should do just fine.
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11/10/2015  12:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/10/2015  12:48 PM
crzymdups wrote:I think he will add some weight and size as he grows. He's strong enough now to compete - I would let him add weight naturally.

I think tonight's matchup against Jonas Valanciunas will be interesting. Jonas has a good 15 lbs on him and is 7'0".

But I sort of think going for the Kareem or KG mix of long, lean strength will better suit KP's game than adding too much mass. Adding weight to that frame, you start to worry about knee or back injuries and more wear and tear.

I'd rather RoLo handle Valanciunas for the most part. I want to see KP get all up in Carroll's mud.
Correction: I want to see KP get all up in the mud of whoever their PF is LOL. Who is their starting PF anyway?

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11/10/2015  12:35 PM
herkyJerky wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I think he will add some weight and size as he grows. He's strong enough now to compete - I would let him add weight naturally.

I think tonight's matchup against Jonas Valanciunas will be interesting. Jonas has a good 15 lbs on him and is 7'0".

But I sort of think going for the Kareem or KG mix of long, lean strength will better suit KP's game than adding too much mass. Adding weight to that frame, you start to worry about knee or back injuries and more wear and tear.

I'd rather RoLo handle Valanciunas for the most part. I want to see KP get all up in Carroll's mud.

I think Carroll is out, no?

And, yeah, agreed. I think ROLO should be on Jonas. It'll just be interesting to see both Jonas and KP on the floor at the same time. I'm sure they'll meet each other on the floor a few times.

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11/10/2015  12:40 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:NO mention of the Admiral?

7'1 and 235 lbs, shredded to the absolute bone.

Hard to believe that he was only 235lbs...especially with muscle weighing more than fat.

He's not in that pic... he's 250 there.
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11/10/2015  12:50 PM
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:NO mention of the Admiral?

7'1 and 235 lbs, shredded to the absolute bone.

Hard to believe that he was only 235lbs...especially with muscle weighing more than fat.

He's not in that pic... he's 250 there.

You're right. He was 235 entering the league from Navy, before settling into his 250 lb physique for his prime years.

No reason to think that Kristaps can't settle in at 250-255 of pure muscle without losing his natural athletic ability.
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11/10/2015  12:52 PM
crzymdups wrote:
herkyJerky wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I think he will add some weight and size as he grows. He's strong enough now to compete - I would let him add weight naturally.

I think tonight's matchup against Jonas Valanciunas will be interesting. Jonas has a good 15 lbs on him and is 7'0".

But I sort of think going for the Kareem or KG mix of long, lean strength will better suit KP's game than adding too much mass. Adding weight to that frame, you start to worry about knee or back injuries and more wear and tear.

I'd rather RoLo handle Valanciunas for the most part. I want to see KP get all up in Carroll's mud.

I think Carroll is out, no?

And, yeah, agreed. I think ROLO should be on Jonas. It'll just be interesting to see both Jonas and KP on the floor at the same time. I'm sure they'll meet each other on the floor a few times.

Oh wow, yeah I think you're right. Honestly I have not been paying that much attention to the Raptors, except for the fact that they started out kind of hot but then lost the last 2. Who is their starting PF? Is it Scola or Patterson?

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11/10/2015  12:57 PM
The Admiral was 24 years old his rookie year.
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11/10/2015  1:00 PM
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:NO mention of the Admiral?

7'1 and 235 lbs, shredded to the absolute bone.

Hard to believe that he was only 235lbs...especially with muscle weighing more than fat.

He's not in that pic... he's 250 there.

Good to know...could not believe a guy that tall with those muscles could only be 235lbs.
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ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:NO mention of the Admiral?

7'1 and 235 lbs, shredded to the absolute bone.

Hard to believe that he was only 235lbs...especially with muscle weighing more than fat.

He's not in that pic... he's 250 there.

You're right. He was 235 entering the league from Navy, before settling into his 250 lb physique for his prime years.

No reason to think that Kristaps can't settle in at 250-255 of pure muscle without losing his natural athletic ability.


Always felt that Robinson was a little stiff...not as fluid as Duncan. Not sure if this was due to the physique, a lack of natural flexibility, or simply the way he developed playing the game.

Duncan's body..or Dirk's, might be the model for KP. Right now Kristaps has some good flexibility, and I feel it adds to his game- you need that strength/flexibility balance. Not sure how too much added muscle would affect his game.

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11/10/2015  1:30 PM
quickness and length are his assets. He doesnt need to lift heavy weights. Cross train, core train, plenty of calisthenics and the right amount of rest. Overtaining will mess this kid up very quickly. He's a unique body type. Need to respect that. Nothing wrong with skinny
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11/10/2015  2:34 PM
fishmike wrote:quickness and length are his assets. He doesnt need to lift heavy weights. Cross train, core train, plenty of calisthenics and the right amount of rest. Overtaining will mess this kid up very quickly. He's a unique body type. Need to respect that. Nothing wrong with skinny

I agree
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