KP is looking great. Fine with the fouls. He's getting his reps, he's getting his confidence and he's playing impact minutes. He and Melo at the forwards are more definatly a combo that can win big sooner than most thought. Last night he harrassed Love all night and challenged many of Lebron's shots as well.

You got a nice peek into what a 2-man game with Melo and KP could look like with that nice dish from Melo on the P&R for an easy layin, and when KP kicked it from the post to Melo for an open 3. There is most definatly a great pairing there. Two forwards who can thrive in the post and shoot from anywhere. KP has DPOY potential. His length is insane. Like AK47 + 40%

The guard situation needs to improve. AA will really help. He's certainly better than Jose and Sasha (who played well last night). Galloway is great. Grant looks good, but the scouting report is aleady out on him. Give him the long jumper, and take away the drive. He's got to establish that jumper.

Rolo is shooting too much, but he's a good fit, especially with KP at the 4. Greg Monroe is a good offensive player. Maybe folks have cleansed their memory of Amare Stoudemire, but its hard to build a great "team" about bigs that dont defend... at all.

The right frontcourt is starting. KOQ really gets hurt by stretch 4s, and most of em are these days. He's great against bigger guys, and when he can patrol the paint and by physical. He's only 6'10 but the 7'6 wingspan makes up for some lost ground. I would prefer him at the backup 5 than 4 but meh.

2-3 doesnt jump out as an impressive start but things look pretty good. Melo is shooting 36% (that will improve) but is doing other things and that are reflected in his WS/48 which is a very good .183. The guard situation will improve, whether its simply by AA coming back, Grant getting better or Jose remembering how to shoot. The defense is there. Sure there are some lapses but overall this team defends every night, and we go 10-11 deep, we challenge shots and we are very physical.

No changes... just patience. Let things play out naturally. Knee jerk changes dont inspire confidence.

We totally stop pushing the pace, which co-inside with d will and grants minutes sinking

Lopez is really not that good on both ends

KOQ..2 minutes here, 2 minutes there, 3 minutes after the half

And every big we have other than KP, holds the ball for 7 seconds or more, evident of the last 2 games which resulted in us scoring just 86 and 84 points

SOMETHING has to change back to how we played in the preseason

That given I have read we should:

1. Get a better coach. Naturally its assumed that would be an improvement.
2. Banish Jose from the earth.
3. Start Early, who can't get off the bench.
4. Trade Melo for a better tomorrow.

I want the team to win as much as anyone but I an not under the illusion other than perfect 20-20 hindsight I can figure out better than the brain trust assembled by Phil.

We are 2-3 after a tough start and we basically start a 7-3 rookie who has exceeded most early expectations and have a solid yoot guard core (gallo and Grant) solid in the rotaton playing big minutes and finishing games.
Work in progress.

knicks1248 wrote:d will is not playing nearly enough

We totally stop pushing the pace, which co-inside with d will and grants minutes sinking

Lopez is really not that good on both ends

KOQ..2 minutes here, 2 minutes there, 3 minutes after the half

And every big we have other than KP, holds the ball for 7 seconds or more, evident of the last 2 games which resulted in us scoring just 86 and 84 points

SOMETHING has to change back to how we played in the preseason

Did Williams sleep with Fishers GF? What gives with the drop in minutes?

He is +19 in game 1, takes 17 shots (hits 8) and gets 19 pts.

Game 2 its 18 minutes
game 3 its 15
game 4 & 5 its 10.

Someone tell Derek we don't have our first round pick, so stop trying to lose.

If Williams isn't playing the right way, then we need to play his way because it was fun and it produced.

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:The course is good.

KP is looking great. Fine with the fouls. He's getting his reps, he's getting his confidence and he's playing impact minutes. He and Melo at the forwards are more definatly a combo that can win big sooner than most thought. Last night he harrassed Love all night and challenged many of Lebron's shots as well.

You got a nice peek into what a 2-man game with Melo and KP could look like with that nice dish from Melo on the P&R for an easy layin, and when KP kicked it from the post to Melo for an open 3. There is most definatly a great pairing there. Two forwards who can thrive in the post and shoot from anywhere. KP has DPOY potential. His length is insane. Like AK47 + 40%

The guard situation needs to improve. AA will really help. He's certainly better than Jose and Sasha (who played well last night). Galloway is great. Grant looks good, but the scouting report is aleady out on him. Give him the long jumper, and take away the drive. He's got to establish that jumper.

Rolo is shooting too much, but he's a good fit, especially with KP at the 4. Greg Monroe is a good offensive player. Maybe folks have cleansed their memory of Amare Stoudemire, but its hard to build a great "team" about bigs that dont defend... at all.

The right frontcourt is starting. KOQ really gets hurt by stretch 4s, and most of em are these days. He's great against bigger guys, and when he can patrol the paint and by physical. He's only 6'10 but the 7'6 wingspan makes up for some lost ground. I would prefer him at the backup 5 than 4 but meh.

2-3 doesnt jump out as an impressive start but things look pretty good. Melo is shooting 36% (that will improve) but is doing other things and that are reflected in his WS/48 which is a very good .183. The guard situation will improve, whether its simply by AA coming back, Grant getting better or Jose remembering how to shoot. The defense is there. Sure there are some lapses but overall this team defends every night, and we go 10-11 deep, we challenge shots and we are very physical.

No changes... just patience. Let things play out naturally. Knee jerk changes dont inspire confidence.

At minimum Jose needs to be removed and I really believe for tempo that Derrick Williams needs 24-26 minutes. The 110 points per game the first 3 were fools gold--and maybe so is the record. I think we are closer to this 85 a game without Affalo.

Galloway Williams and Oquinn--longer consistent minutes and use Admundson for bench minutes for the energy and rebounding and early if even as a spot starter to get some length /athleticism into the line up. When you get beat 27-0 in fast break points--thats a staggering number that must be addressed. You address that by bringing size length and athleticism/energy into the fold.

I agree with you here BRIGGs, but i still think calderone is better off the ball as a spot up shooter. Right now he's taking shots coming off screens and pick and rolls and he doesn't have the lift, the speed, or the rhythm to be successful playing that way.

He doesn't even slash to the rim for a give and go on a pick n roll, and in the triangle, he doesn't cut nearly enough, which is why lopez is getting way too many ISO's and everything is half court

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:The course is good.

KP is looking great. Fine with the fouls. He's getting his reps, he's getting his confidence and he's playing impact minutes. He and Melo at the forwards are more definatly a combo that can win big sooner than most thought. Last night he harrassed Love all night and challenged many of Lebron's shots as well.

You got a nice peek into what a 2-man game with Melo and KP could look like with that nice dish from Melo on the P&R for an easy layin, and when KP kicked it from the post to Melo for an open 3. There is most definatly a great pairing there. Two forwards who can thrive in the post and shoot from anywhere. KP has DPOY potential. His length is insane. Like AK47 + 40%

The guard situation needs to improve. AA will really help. He's certainly better than Jose and Sasha (who played well last night). Galloway is great. Grant looks good, but the scouting report is aleady out on him. Give him the long jumper, and take away the drive. He's got to establish that jumper.

Rolo is shooting too much, but he's a good fit, especially with KP at the 4. Greg Monroe is a good offensive player. Maybe folks have cleansed their memory of Amare Stoudemire, but its hard to build a great "team" about bigs that dont defend... at all.

The right frontcourt is starting. KOQ really gets hurt by stretch 4s, and most of em are these days. He's great against bigger guys, and when he can patrol the paint and by physical. He's only 6'10 but the 7'6 wingspan makes up for some lost ground. I would prefer him at the backup 5 than 4 but meh.

2-3 doesnt jump out as an impressive start but things look pretty good. Melo is shooting 36% (that will improve) but is doing other things and that are reflected in his WS/48 which is a very good .183. The guard situation will improve, whether its simply by AA coming back, Grant getting better or Jose remembering how to shoot. The defense is there. Sure there are some lapses but overall this team defends every night, and we go 10-11 deep, we challenge shots and we are very physical.

No changes... just patience. Let things play out naturally. Knee jerk changes dont inspire confidence.

At minimum Jose needs to be removed and I really believe for tempo that Derrick Williams needs 24-26 minutes. The 110 points per game the first 3 were fools gold--and maybe so is the record. I think we are closer to this 85 a game without Affalo.

Galloway Williams and Oquinn--longer consistent minutes and use Admundson for bench minutes for the energy and rebounding and early if even as a spot starter to get some length /athleticism into the line up. When you get beat 27-0 in fast break points--thats a staggering number that must be addressed. You address that by bringing size length and athleticism/energy into the fold.

The only thing that needs to be addressed sooner than later is Jose. His play has been dreadful. We were bad on the break last night but that was more a product of poor rebounding than anything. Thats a one off.

fishmike wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:2 and 3 with losses coming to the 60 win hawks, lebron and the finals cavs and the mighty spurs with LA and the dpoy.

And competitive in EVERY GAME.

I'm ecstatic.

+1
big picture. This... an they defend and are physical every night. There is so much room for improvement. Melo and KP arent shooting 35% for the year, AA is coming back, the guard situation will improve, we are watching KP get better every night... yea, perspective.

This wasn't the finals Cavs though. I'll give you the Spurs and Hawks games, but this one should've been won.

No Kyrie, Shump, or JR. Lebron is still not 100% with his achy back, and the Cavs couldn't hit a 3 the whole first half.

If they had speedballed it, they probably win this going away. Instead, ZERO fast break points, and Fisher play and match ed the Cavs rotation instead playing his style.

KP getting into foul trouble throughout didn't help things either, as he's the Knicks best 2 way player.

Obi Wan Afflalo you're our only hope...take us away from the misery and despair that is Hose-Zay.

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:The course is good.

KP is looking great. Fine with the fouls. He's getting his reps, he's getting his confidence and he's playing impact minutes. He and Melo at the forwards are more definatly a combo that can win big sooner than most thought. Last night he harrassed Love all night and challenged many of Lebron's shots as well.

You got a nice peek into what a 2-man game with Melo and KP could look like with that nice dish from Melo on the P&R for an easy layin, and when KP kicked it from the post to Melo for an open 3. There is most definatly a great pairing there. Two forwards who can thrive in the post and shoot from anywhere. KP has DPOY potential. His length is insane. Like AK47 + 40%

The guard situation needs to improve. AA will really help. He's certainly better than Jose and Sasha (who played well last night). Galloway is great. Grant looks good, but the scouting report is aleady out on him. Give him the long jumper, and take away the drive. He's got to establish that jumper.

Rolo is shooting too much, but he's a good fit, especially with KP at the 4. Greg Monroe is a good offensive player. Maybe folks have cleansed their memory of Amare Stoudemire, but its hard to build a great "team" about bigs that dont defend... at all.

The right frontcourt is starting. KOQ really gets hurt by stretch 4s, and most of em are these days. He's great against bigger guys, and when he can patrol the paint and by physical. He's only 6'10 but the 7'6 wingspan makes up for some lost ground. I would prefer him at the backup 5 than 4 but meh.

2-3 doesnt jump out as an impressive start but things look pretty good. Melo is shooting 36% (that will improve) but is doing other things and that are reflected in his WS/48 which is a very good .183. The guard situation will improve, whether its simply by AA coming back, Grant getting better or Jose remembering how to shoot. The defense is there. Sure there are some lapses but overall this team defends every night, and we go 10-11 deep, we challenge shots and we are very physical.

No changes... just patience. Let things play out naturally. Knee jerk changes dont inspire confidence.

At minimum Jose needs to be removed and I really believe for tempo that Derrick Williams needs 24-26 minutes. The 110 points per game the first 3 were fools gold--and maybe so is the record. I think we are closer to this 85 a game without Affalo.

Galloway Williams and Oquinn--longer consistent minutes and use Admundson for bench minutes for the energy and rebounding and early if even as a spot starter to get some length /athleticism into the line up. When you get beat 27-0 in fast break points--thats a staggering number that must be addressed. You address that by bringing size length and athleticism/energy into the fold.

Fools gold? Furthest thing from it... Spurs are a top defensive team in the league. The Knicks ran into a wall there. The Cavs are pretty good defensively also and the Knicks shot 39%. Dont the other teams ever get credit? We ran into some pretty good teams last two games and competed well, but couldnt hang.

The only thing that needs to be addressed sooner than later is Jose. His play has been dreadful. We were bad on the break last night but that was more a product of poor rebounding than anything. Thats a one off.

A cavs team that was missing 3 key players and we were up by as many as 15-zero fast break points

a spurs team that played the night before, and have 6 players in rotation over 30-zero fast breaks points

A hawks team that got destroyed on the boards by detroit the night before. We should be 4-1

fishmike wrote:The course is good.

KP is looking great. Fine with the fouls. He's getting his reps, he's getting his confidence and he's playing impact minutes. He and Melo at the forwards are more definatly a combo that can win big sooner than most thought. Last night he harrassed Love all night and challenged many of Lebron's shots as well.

You got a nice peek into what a 2-man game with Melo and KP could look like with that nice dish from Melo on the P&R for an easy layin, and when KP kicked it from the post to Melo for an open 3. There is most definatly a great pairing there. Two forwards who can thrive in the post and shoot from anywhere. KP has DPOY potential. His length is insane. Like AK47 + 40%

The guard situation needs to improve. AA will really help. He's certainly better than Jose and Sasha (who played well last night). Galloway is great. Grant looks good, but the scouting report is aleady out on him. Give him the long jumper, and take away the drive. He's got to establish that jumper.

Rolo is shooting too much, but he's a good fit, especially with KP at the 4. Greg Monroe is a good offensive player. Maybe folks have cleansed their memory of Amare Stoudemire, but its hard to build a great "team" about bigs that dont defend... at all.

The right frontcourt is starting. KOQ really gets hurt by stretch 4s, and most of em are these days. He's great against bigger guys, and when he can patrol the paint and by physical. He's only 6'10 but the 7'6 wingspan makes up for some lost ground. I would prefer him at the backup 5 than 4 but meh.

2-3 doesnt jump out as an impressive start but things look pretty good. Melo is shooting 36% (that will improve) but is doing other things and that are reflected in his WS/48 which is a very good .183. The guard situation will improve, whether its simply by AA coming back, Grant getting better or Jose remembering how to shoot. The defense is there. Sure there are some lapses but overall this team defends every night, and we go 10-11 deep, we challenge shots and we are very physical.

No changes... just patience. Let things play out naturally. Knee jerk changes dont inspire confidence.

geez fish. a poster who is actually patient and not over-reacting right now? i didn't think that was possible, aside from me. i couldn't agree more with your post. calderon has been crap, but we're going to need him when afflalo comes back and settles down the scoring, calderon is a distrubuter and a guy who hits the 3 at this point in his career and nothing else. right now, most of the starting unit is trying to makeup for the scoring void that afflalo leaves behind, once he comes back, guys can settle into their roles better, including calderon. melo has been bad, he's not going to play this poor for much longer (you would think) so let's just be patient and build some chemistry amongst the starting and bench units.

fishmike wrote:The course is good.

KP is looking great. Fine with the fouls. He's getting his reps, he's getting his confidence and he's playing impact minutes. He and Melo at the forwards are more definatly a combo that can win big sooner than most thought. Last night he harrassed Love all night and challenged many of Lebron's shots as well.

You got a nice peek into what a 2-man game with Melo and KP could look like with that nice dish from Melo on the P&R for an easy layin, and when KP kicked it from the post to Melo for an open 3. There is most definatly a great pairing there. Two forwards who can thrive in the post and shoot from anywhere. KP has DPOY potential. His length is insane. Like AK47 + 40%

The guard situation needs to improve. AA will really help. He's certainly better than Jose and Sasha (who played well last night). Galloway is great. Grant looks good, but the scouting report is aleady out on him. Give him the long jumper, and take away the drive. He's got to establish that jumper.

Rolo is shooting too much, but he's a good fit, especially with KP at the 4. Greg Monroe is a good offensive player. Maybe folks have cleansed their memory of Amare Stoudemire, but its hard to build a great "team" about bigs that dont defend... at all.

The right frontcourt is starting. KOQ really gets hurt by stretch 4s, and most of em are these days. He's great against bigger guys, and when he can patrol the paint and by physical. He's only 6'10 but the 7'6 wingspan makes up for some lost ground. I would prefer him at the backup 5 than 4 but meh.

2-3 doesnt jump out as an impressive start but things look pretty good. Melo is shooting 36% (that will improve) but is doing other things and that are reflected in his WS/48 which is a very good .183. The guard situation will improve, whether its simply by AA coming back, Grant getting better or Jose remembering how to shoot. The defense is there. Sure there are some lapses but overall this team defends every night, and we go 10-11 deep, we challenge shots and we are very physical.

No changes... just patience. Let things play out naturally. Knee jerk changes dont inspire confidence.

very good post

mreinman wrote:so people are calling for dummy-Dwil to play 24.725 minutes per game, why? Cause? Perhaps our coaching staff sees something that us genius's don't see?

The same coaching staff that trots out Calderon? Maybe they do see something different. Also, if Williams played that many minutes he make rival Mudiay for most turnovers