It's incredible that people are willing to look past narcissism, opportunisim, obvious character flaws, bankruptcies, failed marriages, but will see him as light years ahead of Carson because the Donald's "tenacious" and his kids turned out well. Oh yeah, and he's taller and holds the podium with both hands. Great, that's all one needs as a background to run the country.

What we're seeing with Trump is the results of a country filled with reality TV-watching knuckleheads who think money is the key to all things and bombastic snarkiness is a fine substitute for actual intelligence. If you don't know what to do, just put on a good show and say anything.

When you put Reality TV show people and other spinsters who are mostly out to promote their own brand (i.e. not really run for political office as the #1 priority), this is what you get. Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Jindal, Huckabee, Graham, Santorum, Paul all fall under that category. They won't last and they never intended to, just play to the base to raise awareness, money, and whatever they can get, maybe Fox hosting gigs after. The other candidates are just so inept or have to play to the base to compete against the former group that they are falling fast and have so many holes in their policy that they will be un-electable. This is what happens when you try to ride the wave of the Tea Party. Republicans just lucky they got local and state wrapped up nicely, this will take some time to undo.

JesseDark wrote:

martin wrote:I don't see a viable Republican candidate and put Hillary's odds at being the next president around 90% and growing.

When you put Reality TV show people and other spinsters who are mostly out to promote their own brand (i.e. not really run for political office as the #1 priority), this is what you get. Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Jindal, Huckabee, Graham, Santorum, Paul all fall under that category. They won't last and they never intended to, just play to the base to raise awareness, money, and whatever they can get, maybe Fox hosting gigs after. The other candidates are just so inept or have to play to the base to compete against the former group that they are falling fast and have so many holes in their policy that they will be un-electable. This is what happens when you try to ride the wave of the Tea Party. Republicans just lucky they got local and state wrapped up nicely, this will take some time to undo.

I agree. I hear that Carson is taking off campaigning for a month to do a book tour. How serious does that sound? At the state level it seems as though gerrymandered districts keep republicans in control. When republican policies fail they still remain in control in some states. See Kansas.

I don't quite understand state and local politics to get a feel for why guys like Brown in Kansas or Jindal in Louisiana got reelected when it was clear that their policies were devastating their own continuations. Does it take years of Arnold to get a Governor in CA who finally moves the state in the right direction? How is Vitter a viable candidate in any world? What are these people thinking or what is going on that voters can't tell the difference?

Politics in Texas must be so entrenched that they offer up idiots like Cruz, Louis Gohmert, Lamar Smith. I don't know how women or minorities could consciously vote for others in the same stream of thinking. Or is it that there are no other viable candidates?

USA is definitely crumbling. When we collectively waste time with Debt Ceiling and Govt Shutdown cliffhangers or have so many freakin hearings on Benghazi or Planned Parenthood, world not be good.

Hey, here's relatively free money for Medicaid expansion for your state... Collective NOOOO from red states who need it most. Excellent idea.

jrodmc wrote:Apparently, according to some polls, lots of people are listening to Carson.
What I've heard of Carson sure beats the living sheehit out of "have Mexico build walls" and "I care about making America the best because..."

It's incredible that people are willing to look past narcissism, opportunisim, obvious character flaws, bankruptcies, failed marriages, but will see him as light years ahead of Carson because the Donald's "tenacious" and his kids turned out well. Oh yeah, and he's taller and holds the podium with both hands. Great, that's all one needs as a background to run the country.

What we're seeing with Trump is the results of a country filled with reality TV-watching knuckleheads who think money is the key to all things and bombastic snarkiness is a fine substitute for actual intelligence. If you don't know what to do, just put on a good show and say anything.

I think anyone who has actually listened to Carson would be scared of him. Even his MD colleagues came out with a negative piece about what he is doing. He's getting anti establishment anti Trump and pro evangelical votyes. Other than that--people who are voting him--have no clue what his views are--because he has none. What are his views and policies Jim--let me in on it?

NardDogNation wrote:

martin wrote:

JesseDark wrote:

martin wrote:I don't see a viable Republican candidate and put Hillary's odds at being the next president around 90% and growing.

When you put Reality TV show people and other spinsters who are mostly out to promote their own brand (i.e. not really run for political office as the #1 priority), this is what you get. Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Jindal, Huckabee, Graham, Santorum, Paul all fall under that category. They won't last and they never intended to, just play to the base to raise awareness, money, and whatever they can get, maybe Fox hosting gigs after. The other candidates are just so inept or have to play to the base to compete against the former group that they are falling fast and have so many holes in their policy that they will be un-electable. This is what happens when you try to ride the wave of the Tea Party. Republicans just lucky they got local and state wrapped up nicely, this will take some time to undo.

I agree. I hear that Carson is taking off campaigning for a month to do a book tour. How serious does that sound? At the state level it seems as though gerrymandered districts keep republicans in control. When republican policies fail they still remain in control in some states. See Kansas.

I don't quite understand state and local politics to get a feel for why guys like Brown in Kansas or Jindal in Louisiana got reelected when it was clear that their policies were devastating their own continuations. Does it take years of Arnold to get a Governor in CA who finally moves the state in the right direction? How is Vitter a viable candidate in any world? What are these people thinking or what is going on that voters can't tell the difference?

Politics in Texas must be so entrenched that they offer up idiots like Cruz, Louis Gohmert, Lamar Smith. I don't know how women or minorities could consciously vote for others in the same stream of thinking. Or is it that there are no other viable candidates?

USA is definitely crumbling. When we collectively waste time with Debt Ceiling and Govt Shutdown cliffhangers or have so many freakin hearings on Benghazi or Planned Parenthood, world not be good.

Hey, here's relatively free money for Medicaid expansion for your state... Collective NOOOO from red states who need it most. Excellent idea.

Red states are just a spattering of extremely small rural communities that are geographically, culturally and intellectually isolated from the rest of the world. As a result, it becomes very easy to control the narratives that are introduced and maintained there, turning it into a virtual echo chamber. Compound that with the fact that most people are sheep and it becomes very easy to get these morons to consistently vote against their own interest. All you really need is some jackass that can pander to elements of the group identity (as a Fundamental Christian, WASP, who is anti-logic, possesses an affinity for country music, presumes that America can do no wrong because Jesus wrote the Constitution with a hatred for anyone who doesn't fit said billing) and you get yourself a vote.

Have you not noticed that non-establishment Republican all sound exactly the same (i.e. something off of Fox News)? Same rhetoric, same tone and even the same cadence. They are people that tend to easily be programmed because they lack (or never had the opportunity to develop) the mental faculties to be critical thinkers. And I don't think there is any fixing that after a certain age.

Did Mommy drag you to Sunday school every week kicking and screaming? Seriously, Carson has the same rhetoric and same tone and cadence as all other non-establishment Republicans? Did neurosurgery suddenly become a lower level class of intelligence, ala country music, anti-logic and Jesus-loving?

Are all logical, highly developed, critical thinking antitheistic Democrats bitter? Have you ever noticed how depressingly similiar all liberals sound?

addictinginfo.org
Top 10 Quotes That Prove Neurosurgeon Ben Carson Doesn’t Have The Brain To Be President
Stephen D Foster Jr

Dr. Ben Carson is now a Republican candidate for the presidency. With that, comes the media scrutiny that includes reviewing his past remarks and making him answer for them. As a neurosurgeon, Carson is no doubt brilliant. But his various statements during his foray into the world of politics demonstrate that he doesn’t have the brain necessary to run the country as president.

1. “There comes a time when people with values simply have to stand up. Think about Nazi Germany. Most of those people did not believe in what Hitler was doing. But did they speak up? Did they stand up for what they believe in? They did not, and you saw what happened.”
~Ben Carson, comparing Democrats to Nazis, January 2014.

2. “I mean, [America is] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you’re not supposed to say ‘Nazi Germany,’ but I don’t care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.”
~Ben Carson, telling Breitbart News how America is like Nazi Germany because of liberals, March 2014.

3. “ObamaCare is the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. In a way, it is slavery, because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”
~Ben Carson, comparing healthcare to slavery during the Values Voter Summit, October 2013.

4. “Because 9/11 is an isolated incident. Things that are isolated issues as opposed to things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift. You have to take a long-term look at something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America.”
~Ben Carson, claiming ObamaCare is worse than the 9/11 terrorist attacks that killed 3,000 Americans, June 2014.

5. “I think what’s happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider. And if we can’t get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world are you going to do it with the entire population?”
~Ben Carson, thanking God for dead soldiers in an attack on ObamaCare amid the Veteran’s Affairs military healthcare scandal in which veterans died waiting for medical care, Memorial Day Weekend 2014.

6. “My thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society, and no group — be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality — it doesn’t matter what they are — they don’t get to change the definition.”
~Ben Carson, comparing same-sex marriage to bestiality and pedophilia, April 2013.

7. “Certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation. And unless we begin to deal with these things in a comprehensive way and in a logical way there is no telling what could happen in just a couple of years.”
~Ben Carson, telling Fox News that President Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 Election so he can continue being president, September 2014.

8. “I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS.”
~Ben Carson, claiming the AP History curriculum will cause students who learn about civil disobedience in this country to join a violent terrorist group, September 2014.

9. “Anyone caught involved in voter fraud should be immediately deported and have his citizenship revoked.”
~Ben Carson, advocating for stripping non-citizens of their no-existant American citizenship if they are caught voting, November 2014. NOTE: quote was later removed from Carson’s WND column.

10. “So if there were a container of contaminated urine, and somehow it managed to find its way to someplace a lot of damage could be done. Someone comes up to a lab worker. He knows he’s got the urine. ‘How would you like to have a million dollars?’ … Such things have been known to happen.”
~Ben Carson, fearmongering over Ebola by saying it could be used a biological weapon even though infectious disease experts disagree, August 2014.

If I needed brain surgery, Dr. Ben Carson is the guy I would want performing the operation because his experience in the field of neurosurgery is nearly unmatched. But I would not want him as President of the United States. The fact is, he has zero experience in government. At least President Obama had prior governing experience prior to winning his first term in office. He served as a state senator in Illinois for seven years and as a United States senator for three years, yet conservatives constantly gripe that Obama didn’t have enough experience to be president. By supporting Carson’s candidacy, conservatives would be committing hypocrisy.

Carson has no idea what it means to govern, and his consistent extremist rhetoric should disqualify him from ever being considered for a job as demanding and stressful as Commander-in-Chief. You can’t bring up the Nazi card to describe political opponents, compare gay people to pedophiles, thank God for dead soldiers, and fearmonger about a virus in an effort to cause panic in the nation and think that makes you perfectly qualified to lead and unite the whole population of the United States. Ben Carson is a fine neurosurgeon, but he would be a disastrous chief executive. These were just ten of his political quotes. Just imagine how many more we’ll be able to add to the list as Carson campaigns over the next two years.

WaltLongmire wrote:

addictinginfo.org
Top 10 Quotes That Prove Neurosurgeon Ben Carson Doesn’t Have The Brain To Be President
Stephen D Foster Jr

Dr. Ben Carson is now a Republican candidate for the presidency. With that, comes the media scrutiny that includes reviewing his past remarks and making him answer for them. As a neurosurgeon, Carson is no doubt brilliant. But his various statements during his foray into the world of politics demonstrate that he doesn’t have the brain necessary to run the country as president.

1. “There comes a time when people with values simply have to stand up. Think about Nazi Germany. Most of those people did not believe in what Hitler was doing. But did they speak up? Did they stand up for what they believe in? They did not, and you saw what happened.”
~Ben Carson, comparing Democrats to Nazis, January 2014.

2. “I mean, [America is] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you’re not supposed to say ‘Nazi Germany,’ but I don’t care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.”
~Ben Carson, telling Breitbart News how America is like Nazi Germany because of liberals, March 2014.

3. “ObamaCare is the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. In a way, it is slavery, because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”
~Ben Carson, comparing healthcare to slavery during the Values Voter Summit, October 2013.

4. “Because 9/11 is an isolated incident. Things that are isolated issues as opposed to things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift. You have to take a long-term look at something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America.”
~Ben Carson, claiming ObamaCare is worse than the 9/11 terrorist attacks that killed 3,000 Americans, June 2014.

5. “I think what’s happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider. And if we can’t get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world are you going to do it with the entire population?”
~Ben Carson, thanking God for dead soldiers in an attack on ObamaCare amid the Veteran’s Affairs military healthcare scandal in which veterans died waiting for medical care, Memorial Day Weekend 2014.

6. “My thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society, and no group — be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality — it doesn’t matter what they are — they don’t get to change the definition.”
~Ben Carson, comparing same-sex marriage to bestiality and pedophilia, April 2013.

7. “Certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation. And unless we begin to deal with these things in a comprehensive way and in a logical way there is no telling what could happen in just a couple of years.”
~Ben Carson, telling Fox News that President Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 Election so he can continue being president, September 2014.

8. “I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS.”
~Ben Carson, claiming the AP History curriculum will cause students who learn about civil disobedience in this country to join a violent terrorist group, September 2014.

9. “Anyone caught involved in voter fraud should be immediately deported and have his citizenship revoked.”
~Ben Carson, advocating for stripping non-citizens of their no-existant American citizenship if they are caught voting, November 2014. NOTE: quote was later removed from Carson’s WND column.

10. “So if there were a container of contaminated urine, and somehow it managed to find its way to someplace a lot of damage could be done. Someone comes up to a lab worker. He knows he’s got the urine. ‘How would you like to have a million dollars?’ … Such things have been known to happen.”
~Ben Carson, fearmongering over Ebola by saying it could be used a biological weapon even though infectious disease experts disagree, August 2014.

If I needed brain surgery, Dr. Ben Carson is the guy I would want performing the operation because his experience in the field of neurosurgery is nearly unmatched. But I would not want him as President of the United States. The fact is, he has zero experience in government. At least President Obama had prior governing experience prior to winning his first term in office. He served as a state senator in Illinois for seven years and as a United States senator for three years, yet conservatives constantly gripe that Obama didn’t have enough experience to be president. By supporting Carson’s candidacy, conservatives would be committing hypocrisy.

Carson has no idea what it means to govern, and his consistent extremist rhetoric should disqualify him from ever being considered for a job as demanding and stressful as Commander-in-Chief. You can’t bring up the Nazi card to describe political opponents, compare gay people to pedophiles, thank God for dead soldiers, and fearmonger about a virus in an effort to cause panic in the nation and think that makes you perfectly qualified to lead and unite the whole population of the United States. Ben Carson is a fine neurosurgeon, but he would be a disastrous chief executive. These were just ten of his political quotes. Just imagine how many more we’ll be able to add to the list as Carson campaigns over the next two years.