blkexec wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:EnySpree wrote:You guys are incredibly hard in this team. I think all things considered (2 games info preseason) they have looked great! Everything isn't clean every time, but you can see everyone is playing well and ate in great shape. You can see whatever mistakes they make can easily be cleaned up. When it does the Knicks are going to have themselves a wonderful basketball team.
The biggest problem is how fisher coaches. He's going to have to go 10 deepin his rotation. He's got to play everyone. Our strength is in our depth. We can't have guys averaging 30+ mins. Who is he going to bench? It's not as obvious as some of you make it out to be.
Anyway I love our entire team right now. I haven't said that in 15 years.
Not being hard at all. Just being truthful. See the problem is some people feel any sort of criticism about this team is negativity which is nonsense. Personally i like the direction the team is going and i think we have some good pieces BUT there is a long way to go before i feel everything is TERRIFIC. Defense is still a concern although i do think we have more defenders than we had in the past. I really like the rookies especially grant. I like the frontcourt depth too. Obviously we are thin at guard especially with the afflalo injury and the fact that i dont expect much of calderon. So far Melo looks real sharp coming off the injury so thats a good sign obviously. So i dont think anybody is being hard on this team at all
I agree with Spree......It's not any criticism, it's the negative criticism after 1.5 preseason games, after Phil did a major rehaul. On top of that, Knick fans have a history of being hard on their own players, team and management. I've said this for years, and maybe I see it more because I've lived in so many different cities and states. Knick players can't blink wrong with out fans and the media blowing it up. I'm just as guilty, but I have finally seen the light. Expectations for this team and players have been extremely high, and it needs to come down.
Just because we have an owner that wants to over pay players, coaches and GM's, doesn't mean expectations should match. The fact is Fisher and Phil are rookies. KP and Grant are rookies. The rest of players that other teams didn't want. Melo is the only superstar. There is no way any negative crticism can be taken seriously right now, when you have an 82 game season ahead of you and haven't played 1 regular season game. Yes, it's fun to play GM or coach.....But some fans were negative during the off season and carry that over to preseason. It's time that we become optimistic for once. Give these guys time to grow into themselves and into the system. In the past, we would've lost both games, and probably got blown out. The fact that we actually won and competed is a great improvement. It's all about baby steps at this point. Most of the issues I'm hearing will be corrected over time.
As far as sloppy offense, I think Fisher realizes (just like during summer league play) he has a future pg in Grant that specializes in pick and rolls. KP and Melo are the best pick and pop bigs in the game. So trying to integrate pick and roll with Phills triangle offense, its like mixing peanut butter and jelly together, before making a sandwich. It's going to look messy, but it will still taste good!
This is expressed even better than what I was trying to say. There are some good signs already beginning to show with this team and they will hopefully get even better with time and practice. They aren't always sloppy and out of sync. There have been good stretches where you see the team exciting properly and that has helped them to win. It's not like the Wiz weren't trying to win the game. The Knicks did some things right in order to win. Still it's just preseason.
Fish gets bashed but he actually started trying to blend different concepts into the Triangle last year. There's ALWAYS been an evolution of the Triangle over the years. Phil himself had tweaked the offense several times with different rosters.
Fish had emphasized the use of Drag Screens last year as a way to keep defenses honest in trying to stop the predictable aspects of the Triangle. It is something the PG can call for at anytime to create some good looks. It doesn't stop them from running the Triangle at all. It's just being blended into the offense as another action.
PnR isn't really hard to add in since it's just a 2 man action. The Triangle 2 man is the Pinch Post so it's not hard to run a PnR out of that. Pushing the pace was always part of the offense but not with better players they should be able to push the pace more and be more successful at it.
We have more passers now and that should lead to a smoother and more potent offense. You can see it already that this team is better at moving the ball.