2) early is frustrating to watch. seems to be the sort who, if he makes a mistake, the opposition always capitalizes on. very uneven. the game is too fast for him.

3) o'quinn should be getting at least 28 minutes a game, starting or not. he is a bit of turiaf and diaw.

4) not every day you see a 7"3" player shoot from the top of the key and the net doesn't move. i also like that he is feisty. there was a play in the first quarter where calderon sliced to the basket off a porzingis pick/give and go at the top of the key.... the way porzingis ball faked fooled the defenders and allowed calderon to make the play. very impressive and promising.

5) carmelo was very impressive. just one foolish heat check 3pointer and one foolish pass. other than that he played mistake free and if he can play a tightened-up game like this every night he will have a career year. and it seems he and porzingis might develop some chemistry.

6) lopez and grant did not have much if any floor impact although lopez is clearly an effective rim protector.

dk7th wrote:1) williams is clearly talented but ultimately more comfortable in a running, wide open game. i also love how often he gets to the line. that will prove valuable if they get to the playoffs. he and galloway have good communication. they should be playing a lot of minutes together.

2) early is frustrating to watch. seems to be the sort who, if he makes a mistake, the opposition always capitalizes on. very uneven. the game is too fast for him.

3) o'quinn should be getting at least 28 minutes a game, starting or not. he is a bit of turiaf and diaw.

4) not every day you see a 7"3" player shoot from the top of the key and the net doesn't move. i also like that he is feisty. there was a play in the first quarter where calderon sliced to the basket off a porzingis pick/give and go at the top of the key.... the way porzingis ball faked fooled the defenders and allowed calderon to make the play. very impressive and promising.

5) carmelo was very impressive. just one foolish heat check 3pointer and one foolish pass. other than that he played mistake free and if he can play a tightened-up game like this every night he will have a career year. and it seems he and porzingis might develop some chemistry.

6) lopez and grant did not have much if any floor impact although lopez is clearly an effective rim protector.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:1) williams is clearly talented but ultimately more comfortable in a running, wide open game. i also love how often he gets to the line. that will prove valuable if they get to the playoffs. he and galloway have good communication. they should be playing a lot of minutes together.

2) early is frustrating to watch. seems to be the sort who, if he makes a mistake, the opposition always capitalizes on. very uneven. the game is too fast for him.

3) o'quinn should be getting at least 28 minutes a game, starting or not. he is a bit of turiaf and diaw.

4) not every day you see a 7"3" player shoot from the top of the key and the net doesn't move. i also like that he is feisty. there was a play in the first quarter where calderon sliced to the basket off a porzingis pick/give and go at the top of the key.... the way porzingis ball faked fooled the defenders and allowed calderon to make the play. very impressive and promising.

5) carmelo was very impressive. just one foolish heat check 3pointer and one foolish pass. other than that he played mistake free and if he can play a tightened-up game like this every night he will have a career year. and it seems he and porzingis might develop some chemistry.

6) lopez and grant did not have much if any floor impact although lopez is clearly an effective rim protector.

I can watch the Knicks on msg but not in high def with my cable package. Usually I watch games on ballstreams in high def and can choose the NY feed. Last night I had to watch the Wizards feed. The Wizards announcers talked a bit about Early and were complimentary of his play. I appreciated their insight because I tend to be hard on the guy and am not sure he is an nba player. They were impressed with his body control in particular. I tend to agree with your assessment of him but I am hopeful that I am jaded and the Wizard broadcasters had a more open mind to his game.

it strikes me that early is best-suited to a more wide-open game, like williams. insofar as galloway and williams have good communication, it seems like early's meaningful minutes may be when he's on the floor with those two.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:1) williams is clearly talented but ultimately more comfortable in a running, wide open game. i also love how often he gets to the line. that will prove valuable if they get to the playoffs. he and galloway have good communication. they should be playing a lot of minutes together.

2) early is frustrating to watch. seems to be the sort who, if he makes a mistake, the opposition always capitalizes on. very uneven. the game is too fast for him.

3) o'quinn should be getting at least 28 minutes a game, starting or not. he is a bit of turiaf and diaw.

4) not every day you see a 7"3" player shoot from the top of the key and the net doesn't move. i also like that he is feisty. there was a play in the first quarter where calderon sliced to the basket off a porzingis pick/give and go at the top of the key.... the way porzingis ball faked fooled the defenders and allowed calderon to make the play. very impressive and promising.

5) carmelo was very impressive. just one foolish heat check 3pointer and one foolish pass. other than that he played mistake free and if he can play a tightened-up game like this every night he will have a career year. and it seems he and porzingis might develop some chemistry.

6) lopez and grant did not have much if any floor impact although lopez is clearly an effective rim protector.

I can watch the Knicks on msg but not in high def with my cable package. Usually I watch games on ballstreams in high def and can choose the NY feed. Last night I had to watch the Wizards feed. The Wizards announcers talked a bit about Early and were complimentary of his play. I appreciated their insight because I tend to be hard on the guy and am not sure he is an nba player. They were impressed with his body control in particular. I tend to agree with your assessment of him but I am hopeful that I am jaded and the Wizard broadcasters had a more open mind to his game.

it strikes me that early is best-suited to a more wide-open game, like williams. insofar as galloway and williams have good communication, it seems like early's meaningful minutes may be when he's on the floor with those two.

That makes sense. I think Early probably is the 9th man that gets some minutes and hopefully moves up in the rotation with improved play.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:1) williams is clearly talented but ultimately more comfortable in a running, wide open game. i also love how often he gets to the line. that will prove valuable if they get to the playoffs. he and galloway have good communication. they should be playing a lot of minutes together.

2) early is frustrating to watch. seems to be the sort who, if he makes a mistake, the opposition always capitalizes on. very uneven. the game is too fast for him.

3) o'quinn should be getting at least 28 minutes a game, starting or not. he is a bit of turiaf and diaw.

4) not every day you see a 7"3" player shoot from the top of the key and the net doesn't move. i also like that he is feisty. there was a play in the first quarter where calderon sliced to the basket off a porzingis pick/give and go at the top of the key.... the way porzingis ball faked fooled the defenders and allowed calderon to make the play. very impressive and promising.

5) carmelo was very impressive. just one foolish heat check 3pointer and one foolish pass. other than that he played mistake free and if he can play a tightened-up game like this every night he will have a career year. and it seems he and porzingis might develop some chemistry.

6) lopez and grant did not have much if any floor impact although lopez is clearly an effective rim protector.

I can watch the Knicks on msg but not in high def with my cable package. Usually I watch games on ballstreams in high def and can choose the NY feed. Last night I had to watch the Wizards feed. The Wizards announcers talked a bit about Early and were complimentary of his play. I appreciated their insight because I tend to be hard on the guy and am not sure he is an nba player. They were impressed with his body control in particular. I tend to agree with your assessment of him but I am hopeful that I am jaded and the Wizard broadcasters had a more open mind to his game.

it strikes me that early is best-suited to a more wide-open game, like williams. insofar as galloway and williams have good communication, it seems like early's meaningful minutes may be when he's on the floor with those two.

I believe he was drafted with Phil thinking he could mold him to do the things we are looking for D.Williams to do this yr. Phil is def looking for that cut and 3s type SF. Coming from Witchita State I expected more of a physical grinder. KOQ can maybe take him under his wing.

nixluva wrote:I'm actually not that put off by Early. I think he's showing good energy and not trying to do too much. At some point it would be nice to see him call his own number cuz he does have ability and physical talent that should work well. He does fit well with the young group off the bench in that they can push the pace and defend with more range and quickness.

I have to say, that Early is growing into his game. He seems more like the player who was going off in the NCAA's. Last season, Clyde questioned if he had ball handling skills. This season, he seems a bit more fluid in his movements, and is running the court with zest. Still making mistakes, but a more active participant. Hopefully, if he is not used as trade fodder, he'll be a pleasant addition for a second round pick.

Sangfroid wrote:

nixluva wrote:I'm actually not that put off by Early. I think he's showing good energy and not trying to do too much. At some point it would be nice to see him call his own number cuz he does have ability and physical talent that should work well. He does fit well with the young group off the bench in that they can push the pace and defend with more range and quickness.

I have to say, that Early is growing into his game. He seems more like the player who was going off in the NCAA's. Last season, Clyde questioned if he had ball handling skills. This season, he seems a bit more fluid in his movements, and is running the court with zest. Still making mistakes, but a more active participant. Hopefully, if he is not used as trade fodder, he'll be a pleasant addition for a second round pick.

I still get the feeling that he is unsure of himself from the outside, and that's a big issue IMO.

WaltLongmire wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

nixluva wrote:I'm actually not that put off by Early. I think he's showing good energy and not trying to do too much. At some point it would be nice to see him call his own number cuz he does have ability and physical talent that should work well. He does fit well with the young group off the bench in that they can push the pace and defend with more range and quickness.

I have to say, that Early is growing into his game. He seems more like the player who was going off in the NCAA's. Last season, Clyde questioned if he had ball handling skills. This season, he seems a bit more fluid in his movements, and is running the court with zest. Still making mistakes, but a more active participant. Hopefully, if he is not used as trade fodder, he'll be a pleasant addition for a second round pick.

Have yet to see him show consistent confidence in his jumper.

I still get the feeling that he is unsure of himself from the outside, and that's a big issue IMO.

I think Early is just being reserved. I think he has confidence in his shooting but he's trying to show that he's not a NUT and won't just jack up shots when he's out there. That's the impression I get from him. He looks to me like he's just letting the game come to him in regards to taking shots. He's aggressive in running the floor tho. I think Early still has a ton of upside and if he's patient his time will come where he can show more of what he can do this season. He's still got to find his niche in the flow of this offense.

Cartman718 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

nixluva wrote:I'm actually not that put off by Early. I think he's showing good energy and not trying to do too much. At some point it would be nice to see him call his own number cuz he does have ability and physical talent that should work well. He does fit well with the young group off the bench in that they can push the pace and defend with more range and quickness.

I have to say, that Early is growing into his game. He seems more like the player who was going off in the NCAA's. Last season, Clyde questioned if he had ball handling skills. This season, he seems a bit more fluid in his movements, and is running the court with zest. Still making mistakes, but a more active participant. Hopefully, if he is not used as trade fodder, he'll be a pleasant addition for a second round pick.

Have yet to see him show consistent confidence in his jumper.

I still get the feeling that he is unsure of himself from the outside, and that's a big issue IMO.

I think Early is just being reserved. I think he has confidence in his shooting but he's trying to show that he's not a NUT and won't just jack up shots when he's out there. That's the impression I get from him. He looks to me like he's just letting the game come to him in regards to taking shots. He's aggressive in running the floor tho. I think Early still has a ton of upside and if he's patient his time will come where he can show more of what he can do this season. He's still got to find his niche in the flow of this offense.

maybe he's worried about getting injured in preseason since he has had an injury or two in the past couple of seasons?

EnySpree wrote:I think every player has completely bought in. The ball is moving well already and guys are constantly moving. That's going to get tighter and more precise as the weeks go on. It's amazing to see. Guys just have to stick together. They are could really shock the league.

This is what I felt about this roster just looking at the make up of the team, but after seeing them play together it just reinforced how I felt about the traits and skills of the players and how they could work together. This is why I felt that many in the media took a lazy approach to analyzing this team. You can't just say, "well they only won 17 games last year so..." You have to take a fresh look at the roster and how these particular players can fit together.

The 1st thing I think should've been noticed is the improvement in character, talent, size and passing ability. The type of players being better defenders and rebounders and more team oriented shouldn't be overlooked. People made fun of the idea of Culture Change but it's a process and Phil had to bring in guys that fit his philosophy. I'm excited to see this team continue to develop.