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BRIGGS
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10/8/2015  10:07 AM
Ive been saying it for 9 months. He's the Achilles heal here. Ill take my chances with Langston Grant Affalo
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10/8/2015  10:22 AM
For once, I agree with Briggs.

I thought we could bide some time, but the way he moved out there, reminded me of folks at a retirement home.

Dude's just toast, shot, done, ghost, RIP, arriverderci, AUDI 5000, peace see ya later. He will dig the Knicks into infinite first quarter holes with his lack of penetration and lack of anything remotely resembling defense.

If he can't look even adequate against Bauru Brazil, how will he look against NBA comp.
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10/8/2015  10:28 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Ive been saying it for 9 months. He's the Achilles heal here. Ill take my chances with Langston Grant Affalo

I wouldn't get overly panicked about the situation. Jose is going to play! He may not play major minutes anymore tho. In fact I think it would be best to limit Jose's minutes as much as possible this year. The only thing Fish needs to see is that Jerian and Gallo can handle the bigger role and i'm positive that he will play them more than Jose. Besides Jose actually was playing hard on D last night. Hard for him anyway. LOL! Jose's gonna get beat just as MOST PG's get beat.
My guess is that he'll see his minutes significantly reduced this year. He's a backup PG now.

This is Jerian's team. It's only a matter of time before he takes the job. He's clearly so much better than Jose at this stage! Both Jerian and Gallo looked strong last night. If there's something to talk about it's how good they looked.
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10/8/2015  10:28 AM
He didnt have a good game. He brings things to the table, if they dont translate to wins why do you feel the Knicks are in bed with this guy? Grant looked much better anyway. Lets see where we are in a month from now.
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10/8/2015  10:28 AM
Surprise... Or is it?
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10/8/2015  10:30 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:For once, I agree with Briggs.

I thought we could bide some time, but the way he moved out there, reminded me of folks at a retirement home.

Dude's just toast, shot, done, ghost, RIP, arriverderci, AUDI 5000, peace see ya later. He will dig the Knicks into infinite first quarter holes with his lack of penetration and lack of anything remotely resembling defense.

If he can't look even adequate against Bauru Brazil, how will he look against NBA comp.

thats like agreeing to a guy saying that Phil Jackson is a white guy.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/8/2015  10:31 AM
fishmike wrote:why do you feel the Knicks are in bed with this guy?

15mill over 2 years is why. Hopefully they can part ways sooner than later and get the Grant train going.
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10/8/2015  10:44 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:why do you feel the Knicks are in bed with this guy?

15mill over 2 years is why. Hopefully they can part ways sooner than later and get the Grant train going.

Jerian was drafted to be the heir to the PG role but they have to play this out and let him take the job.
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10/8/2015  10:46 AM
Calderon is terrible..We have to run him out there long enough for him to get a rhythm..Hopefully some team can add him to help their run to the Finals..
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10/8/2015  11:07 AM
Surprised that he did not come to the pre-season in better shape- the best shape of his life, in fact.

You have the young kid, KP, probably going too hard to get in shape and impress, and you have the old vet who, instead of coming into camp in great shape to give and old dog an edge, seems like he is going to use pre-season to play himself into shape. They also talked about Galloway adding some muscle, even though he already had a good body for his position, IMO.

Big difference, IMO. Being 100% OK to go is one thing...being in superior physical condition is an entirely different situation, and I saw no indication of any kind of attention to re-sculpting his body. You looked at one of the older guys on the team we played yesterday- think his name was Garcia- and then you looked at Calderon...told you a lot about dedication, I think.

Don't understand where Calderon is coming from, and what he thinks his role on the team is. With Galloway and Grant on the team, he had to think he was going to be in a fight for playing time...does not seem that he cared, though.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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10/8/2015  11:11 AM
At least we got Shane Larkin & Early in the Tyson deal!
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10/8/2015  11:11 AM
FIrst game he played in since March. Relax.
If he sux he sits. If coaches think he can get better with more time, he'll play.
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10/8/2015  11:14 AM
Nalod wrote:FIrst game he played in since March. Relax.
If he sux he sits. If coaches think he can get better with more time, he'll play.

Not worried, he'll be injured again by the regular season so, nothing to worry about
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10/8/2015  11:22 AM
Rookie wrote:
Nalod wrote:FIrst game he played in since March. Relax.
If he sux he sits. If coaches think he can get better with more time, he'll play.

Not worried, he'll be injured again by the regular season so, nothing to worry about

Maybe he'll injure his eyebrows--the potential is there.

RIP Crushalot😞
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10/8/2015  11:25 AM
Rookie wrote:
Nalod wrote:FIrst game he played in since March. Relax.
If he sux he sits. If coaches think he can get better with more time, he'll play.

Not worried, he'll be injured again by the regular season so, nothing to worry about

WE have a rookie groomed to take his place. Im not losing sleep.
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10/8/2015  11:28 AM
Nalod wrote:
Rookie wrote:
Nalod wrote:FIrst game he played in since March. Relax.
If he sux he sits. If coaches think he can get better with more time, he'll play.

Not worried, he'll be injured again by the regular season so, nothing to worry about

WE have a rookie groomed to take his place. Im not losing sleep.


Yeah it's only a matter of time. Grant and Gallo or G2 as someone coined them, looked great. That's a great sign for this team. We need them to keeps this up and they will eventually take over the minutes at guard.
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10/8/2015  11:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/8/2015  11:43 AM
Nalod wrote:
Rookie wrote:
Nalod wrote:FIrst game he played in since March. Relax.
If he sux he sits. If coaches think he can get better with more time, he'll play.

Not worried, he'll be injured again by the regular season so, nothing to worry about

WE have a rookie groomed to take his place. Im not losing sleep.

Grant looks like he is going to be ready for the season and the long haul. Finally we have a legitimate PG in the pipeline, but we need one more and his initials aren't JC. Would love to see us add a PG with speed who can run up tempo with the 2nd unit.
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10/8/2015  11:47 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:Surprised that he did not come to the pre-season in better shape- the best shape of his life, in fact.

You have the young kid, KP, probably going too hard to get in shape and impress, and you have the old vet who, instead of coming into camp in great shape to give and old dog an edge, seems like he is going to use pre-season to play himself into shape. They also talked about Galloway adding some muscle, even though he already had a good body for his position, IMO.

Big difference, IMO. Being 100% OK to go is one thing...being in superior physical condition is an entirely different situation, and I saw no indication of any kind of attention to re-sculpting his body. You looked at one of the older guys on the team we played yesterday- think his name was Garcia- and then you looked at Calderon...told you a lot about dedication, I think.

Don't understand where Calderon is coming from, and what he thinks his role on the team is. With Galloway and Grant on the team, he had to think he was going to be in a fight for playing time...does not seem that he cared, though.


KP is out of shape...I don't understand people talking about he is up at 6:45 and the first one at the gym and he can't play 20 mins of a game??..Same like the Summer league..
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10/8/2015  11:48 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Ive been saying it for 9 months. He's the Achilles heal here. Ill take my chances with Langston Grant Affalo

He didn't look good and while I'm basically in agreement with you --- it is early Oct and last night was his 1st game since March.

The Knicks should be scouring NBA rosters and watching CAMP cuts very closely for athletic pg types.

I also prefer either Grant/Langston over Calderon at this point -- simply for athleticism/defense/rebounding benefits but I think we continue to push forward with Calderon with the hopes of boosting his value for the trade deadline.
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10/8/2015  11:53 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:why do you feel the Knicks are in bed with this guy?

15mill over 2 years is why. Hopefully they can part ways sooner than later and get the Grant train going.

if we signed him I would agree. He was the cost of dumping Felton at the time. One more year after this one. Not a killer. He's there to be stable, facilitate and hit 3s. If he's not doing that the younger guys will get burn
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