nixluva wrote:OMG this Bull never stops!!! Phil wanted Melo and he wasn't forced to sign him. Melo gave a small discount but overall his contract is less in the new Cap anyway. Further, Melo sees the changes and it sounds like he's pleased with the team and its prospects for the future. Why shouldn't he be? This team will be better this year and should continue to get better. Melo can relax and concentrate on winning in the city he wants to be in. It's All Good from Melo's perspective!!!

phil wanted melo at what cost? what would have been a fair contract... not this ridiculous one? just give me a number. no words: a number.

nixluva wrote:OMG this Bull never stops!!! Phil wanted Melo and he wasn't forced to sign him. Melo gave a small discount but overall his contract is less in the new Cap anyway. Further, Melo sees the changes and it sounds like he's pleased with the team and its prospects for the future. Why shouldn't he be? This team will be better this year and should continue to get better. Melo can relax and concentrate on winning in the city he wants to be in. It's All Good from Melo's perspective!!!

knicks1248 wrote:

TPercy wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:He indeed made his $124m "bed" and gets to lay in it.

Let's see if he keeps the same tune later in the season.

LBJ and KD are both headed for 200 mill contract, but you take MELO out and Put LBJ or KD on this roster, and we would still be projected to win 30+ games, only they would be making 7 to 10 mill more per. Then the argument would be they have no official 2nd scorer, not about how overpaid they are.

If (lbj and KD) played on the knicks last season, they both would avg 45 shots ppg, would pppl call them selfish, or chalk it up to terrible support.

The ass hole reporter who asks a player if he's going to request a trade if your team struggles, is about as dumb as dumber can get.

Don't ever use Melo and Lebron in the same sentence...

What was i thinking, it's like MELO joined 2 other elite players to finally win a title, or that melo held the title for the biggest douche in sports.

LBJ or KD on this current Knick squad as composed probably wins 50 games and makes the Eastern Conference Finals at minimum.

Let's see how far our $124m man takes us.

With Lopez, KP, Q'uinn, Serephin and Hermongomez coming in next season there is already a lot of potential in the front court without having to spend much more money on it. Which gives us the flexibility to focus on adding youthful upgrades at the guard position.

Complaining about Melo's contract is pretty much irrelevant at this moment.

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Complaining about Melo's contract is pretty much irrelevant at this moment.

It is relevant, if the Knicks are even contemplating about KD this summer...

Only have 19.5 or so to give, and obviously Durant isn't taking a paycut. We'd pretty much have to move alot of signings like Afflalo, O'Quinn, potentially KP to free up the $25m Durant will be seeking.

So yea, Melo's contract does hinder any pursuit of Durant. Shame. Instead of 10% to 15% chance it's more like negative infinity.

Just shame all around. Fish and KD were tight too.

#2 If KD wants to come here we can make the money for him to come here, saying KD won't take any type of pay cut also isn't based off any actual facts. He won't for 19.5 mil but its possible for 23-24mil. I doubt he would turn that down and if he did then we were never a serious option since that 1-2mil could be made up easily from the org. You also conveniently left out the part of the article that said we could stretch Calderon giving us like 23mil in cap space I believe. That would leave trading preferably D.Williams or Serephin for a future draft pick to cover the difference if necessary.

But damn losing Calderon and Serephin or D.Williams for KD would devestating.

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Complaining about Melo's contract is pretty much irrelevant at this moment.

It is relevant, if the Knicks are even contemplating about KD this summer...

Only have 19.5 or so to give, and obviously Durant isn't taking a paycut. We'd pretty much have to move alot of signings like Afflalo, O'Quinn, potentially KP to free up the $25m Durant will be seeking.

So yea, Melo's contract does hinder any pursuit of Durant. Shame. Instead of 10% to 15% chance it's more like negative infinity.

Just shame all around. Fish and KD were tight too.

Silliness, #1 you blame Melo's contract when trading for Calderon's 7.7mil and giving D.Williams a 4.6mil player option which takes up 12mil in cap space has more of an impact.

#2 If KD wants to come here we can make the money for him to come here, saying KD won't take any type of pay cut also isn't based off any actual facts. He won't for 19.5 mil but its possible for 23-24mil. I doubt he would turn that down and if he did then we were never a serious option since that 1-2mil could be made up easily from the org. You also conveniently left out the part of the article that said we could stretch Calderon giving us like 23mil in cap space I believe. That would leave trading preferably D.Williams or Serephin for a future draft pick to cover the difference if necessary.

But damn losing Calderon and Serephin or D.Williams for KD would devestating.

Basically every player salary on the Knicks is moveable, even Melo to a certain extent.

Just stating the fact if Jackson had just let Melo walk, we'd be in a much more enviable position then having to move parts we just signed. We'd have the ability to sign 2 max deals potentially with KD being the centerpiece, no matter how far fetched that sounds.

None of this is guaranteed obviously, but it's to put yourself in that position that hurts, if KD would remotely even entertain the idea of playing in New York.

martin wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Complaining about Melo's contract is pretty much irrelevant at this moment.

It is relevant, if the Knicks are even contemplating about KD this summer...

Only have 19.5 or so to give, and obviously Durant isn't taking a paycut. We'd pretty much have to move alot of signings like Afflalo, O'Quinn, potentially KP to free up the $25m Durant will be seeking.

So yea, Melo's contract does hinder any pursuit of Durant. Shame. Instead of 10% to 15% chance it's more like negative infinity.

Just shame all around. Fish and KD were tight too.

I find this misleading.

Knicks cap space only at $19.5 if both Afflalo and DWill opt in. And you can always cut Calderon for some extra $.

So barring the worst possible scenario of everyone opting in, not making any trades, Durant only moving if he can get $25M, then maybe you are correct.

I don't know all the numbers scenarios, just that some players will opt in, some will opt out, and possibly Jose will be stretched.

I mean I don't see any scenario where KD would take a paycut leaving his own team. Does any player in their prime leave money on the table (Lebron excluded for obvious super teaming reasons)?

Stupid question - what the hell is Melo supposed to say?

Reporters seem to ask the stupidest questions - not sure why - maybe they don't want to ask really hard questions.

Melo - what insights did you gain from your off season time scrimmaging with some of your new team mates?

When you talk about competing for a championship - what three things do you think you need to see that kind of success?

How will you/we be able to assess your comeback from surgery?

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Complaining about Melo's contract is pretty much irrelevant at this moment.

It is relevant, if the Knicks are even contemplating about KD this summer...

Only have 19.5 or so to give, and obviously Durant isn't taking a paycut. We'd pretty much have to move alot of signings like Afflalo, O'Quinn, potentially KP to free up the $25m Durant will be seeking.

So yea, Melo's contract does hinder any pursuit of Durant. Shame. Instead of 10% to 15% chance it's more like negative infinity.

Just shame all around. Fish and KD were tight too.

Silliness, #1 you blame Melo's contract when trading for Calderon's 7.7mil and giving D.Williams a 4.6mil player option which takes up 12mil in cap space has more of an impact.

#2 If KD wants to come here we can make the money for him to come here, saying KD won't take any type of pay cut also isn't based off any actual facts. He won't for 19.5 mil but its possible for 23-24mil. I doubt he would turn that down and if he did then we were never a serious option since that 1-2mil could be made up easily from the org. You also conveniently left out the part of the article that said we could stretch Calderon giving us like 23mil in cap space I believe. That would leave trading preferably D.Williams or Serephin for a future draft pick to cover the difference if necessary.

But damn losing Calderon and Serephin or D.Williams for KD would devestating.

Basically every player salary on the Knicks is moveable, even Melo to a certain extent.

Just stating the fact if Jackson had just let Melo walk, we'd be in a much more enviable position then having to move parts we just signed. We'd have the ability to sign 2 max deals potentially with KD being the centerpiece, no matter how far fetched that sounds.

None of this is guaranteed obviously, but it's to put yourself in that position that hurts, if KD would remotely even entertain the idea of playing in New York.

Moving parts we just signed? Calderon and Serephin or Williams are expendable and could be replaced. Adding Durant with Melo would give us the same 2 max player senario. I doubt in your mind you are actually thinking if only we didn't have to give up Calderon and Serephin or Williams.

Now saying you don't like Melo as a player so don't want him on the team would be cutting to the chase. Trying to find angles like his contract is were things get harry given the circumstances of cap flexibility we have. Again 4th lowest payroll even though his contract was supposed to devistate this team. We could offer non KD level players up the 19mil which is Jimmy Butler level.