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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
10/8/2015 10:33 AM
Paris907 wrote:I enjoyed the win particularly as the coach ran his mouth. Seraphin and OQuinn made statements and among with Lopez present a force to be dealt with. Grant is quick and sooner or later will secure his time. I think Sasha will take some of Lopez minutes and Galloway will get his minutes whether he starts or not. sasha take lopez's minutes?? so here is what phil is thinking ....
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mreinman
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10/8/2015 10:36 AM
BRIGGS wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I came away impressed with Melo, Galloway, Grant, Quinn and Seraphin. KP will be fine. He sure can shoot it. My guess is he is a 5 down the road. The Knicks are stacked up front. I think its time for you to retire. You are clearly not in touch with todays game. And, watch the game before you make wild assumptions. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
10/8/2015 11:06 AM LAST EDITED: 10/8/2015 11:08 AM
Briggs you want KP to only work on his post game and become one dimensional when what makes him a unique talent is his versatility at 7'3? His ability to score from anywhere on the floor and move like a guard? And Chuck is right let him grow first. He does not the the body to bang in the post against grown men. At least not for a few years. You his career to be cut short?
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WaltLongmire
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10/8/2015 11:21 AM
KP can easily play the stretch 4 position, and has the ability to score in various ways. Think about how he will be able to take advantage of most centers in a few years by taking them outside at times...in essence moving them out of their defensive comfort zones.
I'm focusing on his defensive role at the 4, and the fact that he is expending a lot of energy as a 4 who is not near the basket, but instead chasing around smaller players on the perimeter, and I'm also concerned that he is not always around in the paint to assert himself defensively. I think he will eventually be an elite shot blocker, and he will be wasted if he is 23 ft away from the basket on a regular basis. There are always tradeoffs, and I believe that in the long run, having him chasing around a 6'8" dude on the perimeter hurts the team more than it helps. I agree that he is probably not ready to bang down low as a 5 at this point, but I would give him some time there, especially against centers not known for being post players or guy who are long but not too strong. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
10/8/2015 11:24 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:KP can easily play the stretch 4 position, and has the ability to score in various ways. Think about how he will be able to take advantage of most centers in a few years by taking them outside at times...in essence moving them out of their defensive comfort zones. Walt he is the back up 5 man who can play snippets at 4. If he plays hard and well--he'll be able to start C in 1-2 years. Thats what Ive always believed. These guys who think hes a 7-3 KG--they are wrong. RIP Crushalot😞
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
10/8/2015 11:25 AM LAST EDITED: 10/8/2015 11:26 AM
Yea Walt excellent point Walt KP is a matchup nightmare and will really help create wide open driving lanes. As well as get quick athletic bigs who are tasked with defending him 20ft from the basket. This guy may truly be a revolutionary player. The skies the limit for him and the Knicks
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LivingLegend
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10/8/2015 11:30 AM
BRIGGS wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I came away impressed with Melo, Galloway, Grant, Quinn and Seraphin. KP will be fine. He sure can shoot it. My guess is he is a 5 down the road. The Knicks are stacked up front.
In fact - it was mostly the opposite. In the pure triangle the Knicks bigs aren't standing at the 3-point line they are in the post and off the elbow for the most part. Biggest concern for me are his hands look shaky -- continues to drop / fumble passes and rebounds. You could say this is a strength issue but 1st pass to him from Melo just went thru his hands. Later he slipped to the hoop on a pick-roll and Grant's pass deflected off his left hand out of bounds. Also - I don't like him having to run around chasing guys too much on the perimeter on defense -- just worry about him leaving his feet / coming down wrong and busting up that skinny body of his. He needs time -- I think our system will continue to get him shots around the key and from 3. I project him as a center down the road unless he makes great strides in his strength/quickness -- people saying he has the quickness of a guard are fooling themselves. |
martin
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10/8/2015 11:43 AM
LivingLegend wrote:BRIGGS wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I came away impressed with Melo, Galloway, Grant, Quinn and Seraphin. KP will be fine. He sure can shoot it. My guess is he is a 5 down the road. The Knicks are stacked up front. agreed. good recap Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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gunsnewing
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10/8/2015 11:47 AM
Sure as his body matures he may be more Pau Gasol then Dirk but that's a few years away naturally. He was definitely a little nervous and sloppy last night but he will figure out where to be and what to do once he has the ball in his hands in time. He hus turned 20!
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fishmike
Posts: 53142 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
10/8/2015 11:49 AM
mreinman wrote:Ive never seen anyone so obsessed with another poster as you are with Briggs.BRIGGS wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I came away impressed with Melo, Galloway, Grant, Quinn and Seraphin. KP will be fine. He sure can shoot it. My guess is he is a 5 down the road. The Knicks are stacked up front. Briggs is at least partially right, but it not about just shooting 3s. If KPs game is shooting 3s then the other team can stick a fast wing on him and he's just another chucker. When KP can establish a post game the other team will be forced to put a big on him. When that happens KP's ability to shoot and draw his defender away from the basket will have a big impact. Until that happens having a 7'3 guy jacking jumpers is nothing more than cute. In that role Briggs is right, KP is a waste of time. Lets see him score in the post and pressure the defense. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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gunsnewing
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10/8/2015 11:51 AM LAST EDITED: 10/8/2015 11:52 AM
You dont want him to plant himself in the paint all game right now. He is not ready to bang physically. Let's not ruin his career right out of the gate. Patience
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