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holfresh
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![]() http://espn.go.com/blog/newyork/knicks/post/_/id/63074/carmelo-i-lead-in-my-own-way
WEST POINT, N.Y. -- If you’re looking for Carmelo Anthony to be a vocal leader this season, you might have misguided expectations. “I lead in my own way,” Anthony said earlier this week. “I will speak up from time to time, but that’s just not who I am, that’s not my personality.” Anthony's teammates say his leadership takes different forms. He might not deliver a bombastic pregame speech or throw a locker room chair to motivate his teammates. But over several days in mid-August, teammates say Anthony showed the kind of leadership that might help the Knicks get through some of the rough patches of the grueling NBA season. It happened in Puerto Rico, where Anthony invited teammates to join him for informal workouts and some team bonding several weeks before the start of training camp. “That’s definitely leadership,” Lance Thomas, one of the Knicks in Puerto Rico for the workouts, said. “Him putting us in a position where we can start the season before the season starts is big time. Getting to know everybody on the squad, everybody becoming familiar with each other, it's important.” Seven teammates and a few Knicks staffers joined for the workouts. (A few more showed up for Anthony’s annual charity weekend on the island days later.) Workouts lasted for about 90 minutes a day. They included working on the triangle offense, some individual shooting and one-on-one, two-on-two and three-on-three drills. The Knicks on hand spent the rest of the day hanging out. “We were like a band of brothers out there,” Thomas said. For Kevin Seraphin, Anthony’s minicamp was a chance to get to know some new faces. “I didn’t know anyone, I just got here. Doing this kind of stuff, it made me more comfortable,” he said. “It was my first impression and it was great.” Anthony has held a charity weekend in Puerto Rico for several years. But he'd never hosted workouts. He said he decided to put together the workout this summer to help all of the new acquisitions get acclimated to one another. “I didn’t want to wait until now to try and get everybody on the same page. We’d be a little bit behind when it comes to that,” he said. So what did he learn during the informal training sessions? “I saw that guys were committed,” he said. “They could have been somewhere else or with family. For them to be there with me and working out and having fun and just enjoying that and kind of wanting to be around not just me, but other guys that were there, was a great feeling.” The Knicks are expected to struggle this season. It’s hard to find an NBA observer who will predict a playoff appearance for New York. One Las Vegas sportsbook has the Knicks' over/under win total at 31.5. So these August workouts won’t make up for any talent deficit that the Knicks face on a given night. But players say that the bonding sessions can have a positive impact on the court. “Anytime you can get together with guys off the court, it does something for chemistry,” says Kyle O'Quinn, who was in Puerto Rico for the weekend events. “Just having a regular conversation as far as, ‘Do you have kids? What’s your situation at home?’ It brings you a little closer to guys. You respect guys more, you see what guys are all about. It helps with chemistry because on the court you know, ‘Oh he didn’t really miss me [with a pass] because he wanted to miss me. He’s a good dude.’” Lou Amundson, who lived through most of last season’s miserable 17-win campaign, agrees. “It shows guys that you’re committed to it and committed to each other. That’s what it’s about,” he said. “It’s about trust and your commitment to one another. Stuff like that goes a long way to building a solid team.” It’s way too early to tell if the Knicks have a solid team -- or even a competitive one. But a few days spent together in Puerto Rico helped build a little team chemistry. |
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
![]() Bad habits from 10+ years are not so easy to get read of...
This became second nature... As far as understanding team concepts and set offence (other that simplistic ISO) one need to have some brains. After not using the brains for so long they stop rolling. Melo has a tall task in front of him to defeat a sucker in himself. Good luck Melo. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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fishmike
Posts: 53867 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
![]() so this thread, with quotes from NBA teammates saying Melo is a leader and is building chemisty should get about 10-15 posts, maybe a 2nd page, but I doubt even that much unless DK and Chuck have some riviting chat
However the speculation that Melo is a terrible teammate by not being in Vegas to blow the summer league squad? What? 20 pages? Good stuff. Looking forward to seeing some hoops soon "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
![]() Leave Melo alone. Season hasn't even started and your up to your negative ways. I don't get some fans here. He is the best player the Knicks have why tear him down.
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
![]() going from 54 wins to 37 wins and announcing you want to test free agency a week before training camp is not leadership.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
![]() Vmart wrote:Leave Melo alone. Season hasn't even started and your up to your negative ways. I don't get some fans here. He is the best player the Knicks have why tear him down. Fans just want to set the record straight. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() Who cares about the past at this point? What Melo has done so far this year is very good. If you really aren't just looking to take shots at the guy then you have to recognize what good things he's done so far this year for his teammates. Otherwise it's just BS cuz nothing can be done about the past. It only matters what he does now and into the future to help his team win. From what I can see Melo has been trying to do a lot of different things to help his teammates. He's not a vocal leader but that's not the only way to lead. It's also important that OTHER players on the team take leadership roles. RoLo is one guy who already has and from what I hear so has O'Quinn.
One thing that I can see helping Melo is having better teammates this year. You'd all be shaking your head at dumb crap our players did too. It's not like the coaches didn't instruct them to NOT do stupid things. Phil bringing in smarter players should help that greatly. |
Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
![]() arkrud wrote:Vmart wrote:Leave Melo alone. Season hasn't even started and your up to your negative ways. I don't get some fans here. He is the best player the Knicks have why tear him down. As fans we have to change our ways and not be so negative. Who are we to give passes and judge. Melo works hard and tries to do his best every time out why don't we see a hard working player instead of stuff like shaking his head and pointing three to the head. People are finding reasons to hate on Melo and just coming out looking stupid. Let the man be, there is no record to be kept here. As fans we can't be the negative of the team. As fans we need to stop harping on the past and come to the present. We have a totally overhauled new team to root for. |
yellowboy90
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yellowboy90
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![]() ChuckBuck wrote:I don't care about the rah rah sis boom bah vocal speeches to rile up a lockerroom or a huddle. We all know he's not Lebron or Kobe, whose verbal pump ups will motivate teammates to extra levels. - ∞ *2 nonsense. This game is emotional and every player or going to shake their head at a bad play or argue a bad call. Also, claiming Kobe and Lebron verbal attacks help their players is silly. How did that tirade in practice help the Lakers? Kobe and Lebron are not great leaders, imo, they are just great players who play help their teams at a great level than most players. |
ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
![]() OH GOD, the ball washers are here...
![]() Can't speak the truth without getting butt hurt over their ringless hero getting justly criticized. Let Melo's actions this season dictate whether he deserves praise and props. NO need to defend him or change the narrative about his unsuccessful Knick career. |
ChuckBuck
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![]() yellowboy90 wrote:hogwash |
yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
![]() wow, real easy to come out with the disrespectful talk. If you want to quote my post or opine about something I wrote, come at me like an intelligent individual or don't comment at all.
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ChuckBuck
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![]() dk7th wrote:going from 54 wins to 37 wins and announcing you want to test free agency a week before training camp is not leadership. Or 54 wins to 37 wins to 17....Leadership! It's bad when only dk7th and arkrud are the only ones thinking logically in all these threads. We're fans of the Knicks and team ball, not fans of individual ISO play and lazy defense. If Melo wants to say all these great things, fine, but he better not do the opposite when the games count. Stop talking about it and be about it is all we're saying. Prove it! Stop treating him like he's above reproach just because he makes all star teams and makes $25 million a year. |
yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
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ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
![]() yellowboy90 wrote:http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/10/2/9440605/carmelo-anthony-sings-bump-grind-is-now-a-true-vocal-leader Argh, now Melo is hazing and bullying KP: Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: What kind of leadership is that!!! |
GetThePipe
Posts: 20136 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/7/2013 Member: #4505 |
![]() Lebron tries but his speeches are cringe worthy and corny, his teams succeed because they're loaded with just enough individual talent. Kobe is not a good leader in any type of way. There are very few actual leaders in the NBA. We were lucky to have two in Kidd and Sheed a few seasons ago.
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() David West, Tim Duncan and KG TOO
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() ON this team it looks like RoLo and O'Quinn are going to be vocal leaders based on how they've been so far. Jerian has leader qualities as well. I think we'll be just fine in that department.
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