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joec32033
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7/14/2004  12:28 PM
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New York trades: SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 24.6 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 31.9 minutes)
New York receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +3.5 ppg, -6.3 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
PG Alvin Williams (8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.7 minutes)
Toronto receives: SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 80 games)
PF Antoine Walker (14.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 82 games)
Change in team outlook: -15.4 ppg, +0.9 rpg, and -3.7 apg.

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 34.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 80 games)
PG Alvin Williams (8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 56 games)
SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games)
Change in team outlook: +11.9 ppg, +5.4 rpg, and +2.3 apg.
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Bonn1997
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7/14/2004  12:39 PM
Posted by joec32033:


New York trades: SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 24.6 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 31.9 minutes)
New York receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +3.5 ppg, -6.3 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
PG Alvin Williams (8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.7 minutes)
Toronto receives: SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 80 games)
PF Antoine Walker (14.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 82 games)
Change in team outlook: -15.4 ppg, +0.9 rpg, and -3.7 apg.

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 34.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 80 games)
PG Alvin Williams (8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 56 games)
SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games)
Change in team outlook: +11.9 ppg, +5.4 rpg, and +2.3 apg.


It rips off the Mavs. I don't think the Mavs would do a straight change of Kurt for Antoine (if the salaries matched) let alone having to take back two bad contracts plus Kurt for Antoine.
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7/14/2004  12:40 PM
Just the fact that the author of the article wrote this make me think he knows nothing.
The Knicks also have the likes of small forward Shandon Anderson and guard-forward Allan Houston who could be included in a trade.

There have been conflicting reports on Vince going everywhere.
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7/14/2004  12:41 PM
Is Laydan the GM for both the Raptors and Mavs at the time of the trade?
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Bonn1997
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7/14/2004  12:47 PM
Houston is a guard-forward? Is this author a comedian? What team would play someone at a forward position who gives you 2 rebounds per 40 minutes?
Bonn1997
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7/14/2004  12:49 PM
Posted by Starks3:

Is Laydan the GM for both the Raptors and Mavs at the time of the trade?

LOL!
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7/14/2004  12:54 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Houston is a guard-forward? Is this author a comedian? What team would play someone at a forward position who gives you 2 rebounds per 40 minutes?

Houston switches to the small foward position plenty of times, all pending on who is guarding him, and who he is guarding, and who is in the Knicks lineup. If you see a 3 guard lineup of Marbury, Frank (Or Craw) and Houston, then Allan is going to be playing the 3.
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7/14/2004  1:31 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Houston is a guard-forward? Is this author a comedian? What team would play someone at a forward position who gives you 2 rebounds per 40 minutes?

Houston switches to the small foward position plenty of times, all pending on who is guarding him, and who he is guarding, and who is in the Knicks lineup. If you see a 3 guard lineup of Marbury, Frank (Or Craw) and Houston, then Allan is going to be playing the 3.
One nice thing about 82games.com is you can check how many minutes a player plays at each position. This year, Houston played 1% of the team's minutes at SF and last year it was less than 1%. (He's actually played slightly more PG than SF). Calling him a forward is a bit of a stretch. Maybe if several players are injured, he could be an emergency forward. Mike Sweetney actually spent more time as a center and TT spent more time as a PF than Houston did as an SF.
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