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9/21/2015  12:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/21/2015  12:40 PM
Just saw that the Knicks signed Summers to a camp deal. Dude's actually a pretty good player. I was real high on the Knicks trying to acquire him a few years back. Combo. forward with a good feel for the game and some good skills. I'm a fan going back to his days at G-Town....Not sure where he fits, the frontcourt is overcrowded now, but adding a good player with his skills can never be a bad thing. Maybe the deal is lucrative enough like some of these other camp deals we've handed out where he'll be willing to go through camp not expecting to make the 15-man and settle for a DL assignment with Westchester. On a minor note, this is why I didn't care for the rush to sign Lou Amundson and Lance Thomas. DaJuan Summers is better than both of those guys but there's just no room. Would've preferred to hear we signed a skilled guard but I like Summers. See what happens..
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9/21/2015  12:45 PM
Finestrg wrote:Just saw that the Knicks signed Summers to a camp deal. Dude's actually a pretty good player. I was real high on the Knicks trying to acquire him a few years back. Combo. forward with a good feel for the game and some good skills. I'm a fan going back to his days at G-Town....Not sure where he fits, the frontcourt is overcrowded now, but adding a good player with his skills can never be a bad thing. Maybe the deal is lucrative enough like some of these other camp deals we've handed out where he'll be willing to go through camp not expecting to make the 15-man and settle for a DL assignment with Westchester. On a minor note, this is why I didn't care for the rush to sign Lou Amundson and Lance Thomas. DaJuan Summers is better than both of those guys but there's just no room. Would've preferred to hear we signed a skilled guard but I like Summers. See what happens..

I literally know nothing about DaJuan, how is he better than Lance Thomas?

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9/21/2015  12:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/21/2015  2:00 PM
martin wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Just saw that the Knicks signed Summers to a camp deal. Dude's actually a pretty good player. I was real high on the Knicks trying to acquire him a few years back. Combo. forward with a good feel for the game and some good skills. I'm a fan going back to his days at G-Town....Not sure where he fits, the frontcourt is overcrowded now, but adding a good player with his skills can never be a bad thing. Maybe the deal is lucrative enough like some of these other camp deals we've handed out where he'll be willing to go through camp not expecting to make the 15-man and settle for a DL assignment with Westchester. On a minor note, this is why I didn't care for the rush to sign Lou Amundson and Lance Thomas. DaJuan Summers is better than both of those guys but there's just no room. Would've preferred to hear we signed a skilled guard but I like Summers. See what happens..

I literally know nothing about DaJuan, how is he better than Lance Thomas?

Just a better all-around player -- better offensive skillset and more versatile. Better handle (Thomas is essentially a spot up mid-range shooter, not much else--this guy can put it on the floor & get to the basket much better---just as good a shooter, probably better with more range), much slicker/craftier player with a bigger body too. He's your classic hybrid 3/4 -- he's skilled enough to play the 3 and he's bulky enough to body up and play some 4 also. Definitely good enough to get back into the NBA imo. He reminds me of Wilson Chandler a little. More fluid and a little bigger than Chandler. I also see some similarities to JaMychal Green/Al Harrington/Draymond Green/Derrick Williams. If you haven't seen him, I think you'll be surprised at his overall skill level..Nice player.
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9/21/2015  12:59 PM
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martin wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Just saw that the Knicks signed Summers to a camp deal. Dude's actually a pretty good player. I was real high on the Knicks trying to acquire him a few years back. Combo. forward with a good feel for the game and some good skills. I'm a fan going back to his days at G-Town....Not sure where he fits, the frontcourt is overcrowded now, but adding a good player with his skills can never be a bad thing. Maybe the deal is lucrative enough like some of these other camp deals we've handed out where he'll be willing to go through camp not expecting to make the 15-man and settle for a DL assignment with Westchester. On a minor note, this is why I didn't care for the rush to sign Lou Amundson and Lance Thomas. DaJuan Summers is better than both of those guys but there's just no room. Would've preferred to hear we signed a skilled guard but I like Summers. See what happens..

I literally know nothing about DaJuan, how is he better than Lance Thomas?

Just a better all-around player -- better offensive skillset and more versatile. Better handle, much slicker/craftier player with a bigger body too. This guy's a classic hybrid 3/4 -- he's skilled enough to play the 3 and he's bulky enough to body up and play some 4 also. Definitely good enough to get back into the NBA imo. He reminds me of Wilson Chandler/JaMychal Green. More fluid and less mechanical than Chandler...You'll be surprised at his overall skill level..Nice player.

I agree....I think he was lacking basketball IQ as far as a team player and needed time to mature. This might be the best time to pick him up. At least that's how us optimistic knick fans think. I always wished we had a chance to select him. But obviously he wasn't ready then. He's the type of guy that can flourish in the right system.

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9/21/2015  1:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/21/2015  1:12 PM
blkexec wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
martin wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Just saw that the Knicks signed Summers to a camp deal. Dude's actually a pretty good player. I was real high on the Knicks trying to acquire him a few years back. Combo. forward with a good feel for the game and some good skills. I'm a fan going back to his days at G-Town....Not sure where he fits, the frontcourt is overcrowded now, but adding a good player with his skills can never be a bad thing. Maybe the deal is lucrative enough like some of these other camp deals we've handed out where he'll be willing to go through camp not expecting to make the 15-man and settle for a DL assignment with Westchester. On a minor note, this is why I didn't care for the rush to sign Lou Amundson and Lance Thomas. DaJuan Summers is better than both of those guys but there's just no room. Would've preferred to hear we signed a skilled guard but I like Summers. See what happens..

I literally know nothing about DaJuan, how is he better than Lance Thomas?

Just a better all-around player -- better offensive skillset and more versatile. Better handle, much slicker/craftier player with a bigger body too. This guy's a classic hybrid 3/4 -- he's skilled enough to play the 3 and he's bulky enough to body up and play some 4 also. Definitely good enough to get back into the NBA imo. He reminds me of Wilson Chandler/JaMychal Green. More fluid and less mechanical than Chandler...You'll be surprised at his overall skill level..Nice player.

I agree....I think he was lacking basketball IQ as far as a team player and needed time to mature. This might be the best time to pick him up. At least that's how us optimistic knick fans think. I always wished we had a chance to select him. But obviously he wasn't ready then. He's the type of guy that can flourish in the right system.

Agreed. Probably nothing more than a camp invite then hopefully Westchester bound but when you really think about him -- I wonder if they're angling to make a trade for another guard. Cleanthony Early would be the guy I'd be dangling to see what I could get. Maybe a 2 for 1 deal (Early/TA?) to bring in another guard, where Summers could then more than fill in for the departed Early. Would love to see us get our hands on a guy like Spencer Dinwiddie, Erick Green, someone like that...I dunno, curious move. The frontcourt is basically set yet we bring in another forward and not some scrub--Summers can play. Worthy of a spot on the 15-man imho. See what develops..
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9/21/2015  1:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/21/2015  1:21 PM
I think it's hard to find glue guys that understand and are willing to play within the triangle, giving 100%. DaJuan Summers has more talent, but so do Shump and JR Smith. Just adding players because of talent is what our past GM's used to do. We need chemistry and glue guys. Players like Lou and Lance are willing to be paid the minimum, while giving the maximum effort on the court. They don't need the ball to be effective. See if DaJuan is willing to buy into Phils system first, before deciding to add him full time. Thats why all these guys are D league material, until proven otherwise. Thats the best way to build a solid team. Talent alone doesn't win. A team of scrubs that know how to play together and gives 100% effort all 4 quarters will beat a team of ISO talented players, who gives zero effort on defense and rebounding, unless they have the ball in their hand.....

I said this before, we can't win if we have too many Melo type players. Its like marriage....We can't live with him or without him. So might as well build around him. Tell him to play triangle for 3 quarters, then take over when needed. I'm sure Kobe already told Melo how he can lead the league in scoring, while playing within the triangle system. DaJuan and other talented ISO players need to follow Melo's lead, and learn how to play within the system.

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Finestrg wrote:
blkexec wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
martin wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Just saw that the Knicks signed Summers to a camp deal. Dude's actually a pretty good player. I was real high on the Knicks trying to acquire him a few years back. Combo. forward with a good feel for the game and some good skills. I'm a fan going back to his days at G-Town....Not sure where he fits, the frontcourt is overcrowded now, but adding a good player with his skills can never be a bad thing. Maybe the deal is lucrative enough like some of these other camp deals we've handed out where he'll be willing to go through camp not expecting to make the 15-man and settle for a DL assignment with Westchester. On a minor note, this is why I didn't care for the rush to sign Lou Amundson and Lance Thomas. DaJuan Summers is better than both of those guys but there's just no room. Would've preferred to hear we signed a skilled guard but I like Summers. See what happens..

I literally know nothing about DaJuan, how is he better than Lance Thomas?

Just a better all-around player -- better offensive skillset and more versatile. Better handle, much slicker/craftier player with a bigger body too. This guy's a classic hybrid 3/4 -- he's skilled enough to play the 3 and he's bulky enough to body up and play some 4 also. Definitely good enough to get back into the NBA imo. He reminds me of Wilson Chandler/JaMychal Green. More fluid and less mechanical than Chandler...You'll be surprised at his overall skill level..Nice player.

I agree....I think he was lacking basketball IQ as far as a team player and needed time to mature. This might be the best time to pick him up. At least that's how us optimistic knick fans think. I always wished we had a chance to select him. But obviously he wasn't ready then. He's the type of guy that can flourish in the right system.

Agreed. Probably nothing more than a camp invite then hopefully Westchester bound but when you really think about him -- I wonder if they're angling to make a trade for another guard. Cleanthony Early would be the guy I'd be dangling to see what I could get. Maybe a 2 for 1 deal (Early/TA?) to bring in another guard, where Summers could then more than fill in for the departed Early. Would love to see us get our hands on a guy like Spencer Dinwiddie, Erick Green, someone like that...I dunno, curious move. The frontcourt is basically set yet we bring in another forward and not some scrub--Summers can play. Worthy of a spot on the 15-man imho. See what develops..

I was thinking the same thing. I think Phil is just arming himself for all posibilities. Even a Melo trade could work. All these guys play the same position as Melo. Allowing these guys to play Melo's man on defense, and let Melo save his energy on offense, could also be the strategy. Melo ain't getting any younger, and he plays hard already on offense and rebounding.

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9/21/2015  1:56 PM
Finestrg wrote:Just saw that the Knicks signed Summers to a camp deal. Dude's actually a pretty good player. I was real high on the Knicks trying to acquire him a few years back. Combo. forward with a good feel for the game and some good skills. I'm a fan going back to his days at G-Town....Not sure where he fits, the frontcourt is overcrowded now, but adding a good player with his skills can never be a bad thing. Maybe the deal is lucrative enough like some of these other camp deals we've handed out where he'll be willing to go through camp not expecting to make the 15-man and settle for a DL assignment with Westchester. On a minor note, this is why I didn't care for the rush to sign Lou Amundson and Lance Thomas. DaJuan Summers is better than both of those guys but there's just no room. Would've preferred to hear we signed a skilled guard but I like Summers. See what happens..

If he's so good then why was he a free agent for this long??
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9/21/2015  3:35 PM
It's necessary to have Lou and Lance around for leadership responsibilities. We need those guys in the locker room and the practice court.

Now if you want to chastise anyone it would be Derrick Williams. Summers and williams ate essentially the same player. I would pay to attend training camp. This is going to be a good one especially in the paint

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9/21/2015  3:41 PM
EnySpree wrote:It's necessary to have Lou and Lance around for leadership responsibilities. We need those guys in the locker room and the practice court.

Now if you want to chastise anyone it would be Derrick Williams. Summers and williams ate essentially the same player. I would pay to attend training camp. This is going to be a good one especially in the paint

Wow! we haven't had any Knick eat another player since Eddy Curry

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9/21/2015  5:55 PM
Playing over in Europe the last few years.

Can't hurt to bring him in...maybe he surprises...maybe gets cut...maybe another body for DL.

More the merrier in training camp.

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9/21/2015  9:04 PM
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EnySpree wrote:It's necessary to have Lou and Lance around for leadership responsibilities. We need those guys in the locker room and the practice court.

Now if you want to chastise anyone it would be Derrick Williams. Summers and williams ate essentially the same player. I would pay to attend training camp. This is going to be a good one especially in the paint

Wow! we haven't had any Knick eat another player since Eddy Curry

Lol! Sure type betrays me yet again

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9/21/2015  11:24 PM
dajuan summers isnt a good player. lol. calm down folks.lol
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9/22/2015  1:07 AM
callmened wrote:dajuan summers isnt a good player. lol. calm down folks.lol

The response to adding Dajuan has actually been pretty calm. I don't think anyone is under any illusions of what his presence represents as a camp invite. We do have a D League team to build up too, so maybe he could be an additional guy for that club.
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callmened wrote:dajuan summers isnt a good player. lol. calm down folks.lol

The response to adding Dajuan has actually been pretty calm. I don't think anyone is under any illusions of what his presence represents as a camp invite. We do have a D League team to build up too, so maybe he could be an additional guy for that club.

It's important to find marginal nba guys and develop them. Galloway being called up last year is what we should hope for. When guys go down, we need that farm system to give guys a shot. Basketball would do well to open up the rules a little to allow this to really make a difference.

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9/22/2015  11:19 AM
our team needs more players who can put the ball on the floor though and not at prigioni or calderon speed. it keeps defenses honest.
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9/22/2015  11:38 AM
callmened wrote:dajuan summers isnt a good player. lol. calm down folks.lol

Actually summers is a very good player.....hes proved that in college.....Georgetown I believe. Similar to JJ Redick. ....who was also in the not good category, until he found a system and coach that works for him.

I play with these so called not so good player's all the time. They are all solid players. Just need the right system and early maturity to eliminate distractions.

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blkexec wrote:
callmened wrote:dajuan summers isnt a good player. lol. calm down folks.lol

Actually summers is a very good player.....hes proved that in college.....Georgetown I believe. Similar to JJ Redick. ....who was also in the not good category, until he found a system and coach that works for him.

I play with these so called not so good player's all the time. They are all solid players. Just need the right system and early maturity to eliminate distractions.


If he's smart enough to thrive in Georgetown's system, then he's smart enough to figure out the triangle. I liked him in college. I Don't think he'll make the team, but it's worth a shot.
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9/22/2015  5:53 PM
Ianazzonne predicting Dummers and Trice will play in Westchester.

Also, Camp is next week.
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