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NYKBocker
Posts: 38420 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
8/21/2015 10:57 AM
Early ceiling to me is Ariza. I think that is a very good thing. He just needs to work on his defense more.
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
8/21/2015 11:19 AM
NYKBocker wrote:Early ceiling to me is Ariza. I think that is a very good thing. He just needs to work on his defense more.agreed. Ariza was another kid i was high on which we got rid of and of course he became a solid player |
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Knicks1969
Posts: 25394 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/7/2014 Member: #5915 |
8/21/2015 11:28 AM
NYKBocker wrote:Early ceiling to me is Ariza. I think that is a very good thing. He just needs to work on his defense more. Ariza appeared to be a better ball handler and much more athletic early on. However, Early is more advance offensively then Ariza ever was. I hope the kid succeed in NY. He is a New York product; thus, the Knicks need to look to develop this young man to become a contributor. I believe the presence of Afflalo as a floor leader will benefit our young dudes tremendously. Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
8/21/2015 11:35 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:Early ceiling to me is Ariza. I think that is a very good thing. He just needs to work on his defense more.agreed. Ariza was another kid i was high on which we got rid of and of course he became a solid player Isn't that the norm around these parts ES
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
8/21/2015 12:16 PM
C Early played 4 in college and shouldve went through a 20 game period in the D league to kind of define position get extended PT work on his handle in game learn how to pass it. He still needs developmental time. No reason he cant get that PT in Westchester we only need 13 guys.
RIP Crushalot😞
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Moonangie
Posts: 24766 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
8/21/2015 12:48 PM LAST EDITED: 8/21/2015 12:51 PM
callmened wrote:am i the only one who still has faith in Cle Early? dude was a 2nd rd pick who showed typical ups and downs as a rookie. He wasn't expected to be a franchise player. I projected him as a role player who could help off the bench. In the summer league, dude showed tremendous athleticism. Listen, i dont think he'll ever be a star and the triangle is too much for him...but i do think he can contribute on team next yr I'm rooting hard for him. He played in the same AAU program as one of my kids. I'll cut him slack on the triangle learning curve, but he certainly will need mins to develop, and they simply might not be available. I hope he gets a shot to compete for a long term deal. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/21/2015 12:50 PM
BRIGGS wrote:C Early played 4 in college and shouldve went through a 20 game period in the D league to kind of define position get extended PT work on his handle in game learn how to pass it. He still needs developmental time. No reason he cant get that PT in Westchester we only need 13 guys. He looked WAY more comfortable with his handle and driving the ball on his man late in the season last year. I think he looked even more comfortable this summer. It's not like they didn't talk to him about what he needed to work on this summer. He got stronger and seems to me to be much more ready to contribute. He just has to stay focused on D and stay healthy. |
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RicanHavok
Posts: 20165 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/10/2012 Member: #4274 USA |
8/21/2015 1:33 PM
nixluva wrote:I think there's a good chance for Early to show growth this year. He started to show us more of the active player we thought we drafted late last year. He worked on his body and seems stronger. This summer he also showed what he can bring to the table in terms of his athletic ability and he seems to be more aware on the floor. Wow there really is a stark difference in his play in both flicks. In the 18 point game even though he was doing well it seemed like every time he got the ball he wasted a few seconds thinking about what to do. In the SL flick he's getting the ball and making quicker decisions IMO. |
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
8/21/2015 1:55 PM
BRIGGS wrote:C Early played 4 in college and shouldve went through a 20 game period in the D league to kind of define position get extended PT work on his handle in game learn how to pass it. He still needs developmental time. No reason he cant get that PT in Westchester we only need 13 guys. if he did play the 4 in college then this is just another example of a guy achieving tweener status once he reaches the nba by virtue of being too small for the nba 4 and not possessing the skills of an nba 3. no wonder he doesn't look like an nba player out there. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
8/21/2015 2:03 PM
RicanHavok wrote:nixluva wrote:I think there's a good chance for Early to show growth this year. He started to show us more of the active player we thought we drafted late last year. He worked on his body and seems stronger. This summer he also showed what he can bring to the table in terms of his athletic ability and he seems to be more aware on the floor. in the first video it is entirely one on one nd one on three and free throw shooting-- no triangle anything. also, check the box score: knicks are getting destroyed and are playing against clipper scrubs. in the second video it's more of the same, a lot of one on one or one on three, a nice pass to the open kp6, a travel on a rebound to an attempted fast break. okay stroke... really kind of a taller version of jamal crawford-- no real sense of team play. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
8/21/2015 3:29 PM
I seen zero comparison between Early and Ariza except that they play basketball(knicks).
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/21/2015 3:36 PM
dk7th wrote:RicanHavok wrote:nixluva wrote:I think there's a good chance for Early to show growth this year. He started to show us more of the active player we thought we drafted late last year. He worked on his body and seems stronger. This summer he also showed what he can bring to the table in terms of his athletic ability and he seems to be more aware on the floor. He is certainly not a Point Forward that's for sure. However, it's still a learning process. In this system he will have to continue to learn how to look for his teammates and I believe he will. His shooting wasn't as good, but Early's assists improved over his Summer League from last year.
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Swishfm3
Posts: 23312 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2003 Member: #392 |
8/21/2015 6:32 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I seen zero comparison between Early and Ariza except that they play basketball(knicks). same here... and that was probably the worse highlight video I have ever seen. |
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blkexec
Posts: 28347 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
8/21/2015 6:44 PM
Yes you are the only 1....
Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
8/21/2015 8:42 PM
I have faith that he can be a decent rotational player for us. I have a feeling that Phil and Fisher and bring the best out of him defensively.The guy is hardworking and his handles showed much more improvement and his finishing has shown much more consistency. He just got drafted recently, so lets give him one more year to keep developing.
The Future is Bright!
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