Jose Caledron-B+/A-
People may have disliked Caledron last season, but he is still overall a really good player and one of the better point guards in the league. His defense is indeed pretty bad, but he is a very efficient shooter, was a huge impact player for Toronto and Dallas, and is a very good passer. I think we may experience some decline from injuries and age, but he still can give us 11 PPG,6 APG, 41% 3PT shooting , 58% TS and can be a really big impact player for us if we can use him to his strengths.

Jerian Grant: A+
I am very happy we got this guy. He is a fantastic passer, a great defender, a high character leader, and is a very capable scorer when necessary. Hopefully he will turn out to be a Jeff Teague type player. This is a huge upgrade over Shane Larkin.

Overall- A

Shooting Guard

Arron Afflalo- B
When you consider the fact that the only other option that was better than him was Wesley Matthews who is coming off a huge injury, this was a damn good deal. We have a very reliable player who can impact on both ends of the court. He is a really good shooter who can defend and can be relied upon to be the second. third option. Some of his stats are a bit concerning but I think we got a pretty nice and serviceable player here.

Langston Galloway- B-
Great defender and is an okay shooter. He is going to have to drastically improve his abominable true shooting numbers however. Still a good player with some room left for development.

Sasha Vujanic-C-
He is someone who will bring his triangle expeirence and veteran leadership to the Knicks. Hopefully he wont see a minute of decent playing time because he is a crap defender with average shooting ability.

Overall B-

Small Forward

Carmelo Anthony-A
We already know that he is a future HOF and he brings. Everything is in his hands whether or not he wants to be a 500 team or not.

Cleanthony Early- B
I am one of those who believes he can be a great player for us. Last year he played with no confidence and dealt with a lot of injuries and it defintitely reflected in his play and his statistics aswell. The guy is quite talented, he has vastly improved his handles, and has shown in Summer League that he can function well in this system. He is a hardworking guy and I think Fisher and Phil are doing a good job of handling him by making his ticket to playing time be defense.

Lance Thomas- C
Energy guy who likely wont see anything but scrub minutes. He brings continuity and defense to our squad.

Overall B+

Power Forward

Kristaps Porzingis-A+

Love this one. he is a clear cornerstone player and a player for the future.his physical tools and skill set can make him one of the most ungaurdable players in the league if used well and developed well. He understand the game very well and I am very excited to see him develop in the coming years

Derrick Williams- F+
He sucks. Only thing he has shown he can do is to be a highlight dunker really. Phil Jackson took ten million and set it to fire signing this guy. He needs to show that he is the man who he was in college because so far in his career he has shown that he is nothing but an A1 B-U-M.

Lou Amundson- B-
Really offensively limited player, but he plays with a ton of heart and never ever gives up. He has a class character and is a terrific rebounder and can give us some really nice defense when needed.

Overall: C. with Kyle O Quinn- B
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Robin Lopez-A+
Very good rim protector and rebounder who can give us a little something on the offensive end. Glad we got him. Huge upgrade over Dalembert.

Kyle O Quinn-A
A player who is talented and hardworking who can protect the rim, rebound, be a threat in the post and is a really good passer out of the post. Hopefully he dosen't try and fufill what he said about taking more longer twos. He may also feature as a PF in this system.

Kevin Seraphin- B-
Low risk high reward signing. He is a really talented player but has really low bball IQ. Hopefully he can put it together here.

Overall-A

Overall roster-B
Phil did a pretty decent job getting the pieces together. We are now in a very stable position moving forward and I can't wait for the start of the season. Feel free to share your grades on our 2015/16 roster.

holfresh wrote:Mostly A's and B's yet ESPN who has been more accurate than not, predicts 25 wins...

I wouldn't bet on ESPN getting this one right. This team has more functional fit than they're giving it credit for. They're mostly looking at the individual talent which on it's own isn't that impressive. It's how the team plays as a unit that matters. This is how you end up with a team like the 54 win Knicks. When you have a group that fits together well it can out perform expectations. This is a relatively balanced roster. Not spectacular but solid. I doubt this team will win 50 games, unless everything breaks right early, but they can get into the 40's IMO.

Think about this. The team closed the season following the trade, going 12-30 after starting 5-35. They went 12-30 even losing Melo. This roster is way better than what we had to close last season. It's better offensively and defensively IMO.

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:Mostly A's and B's yet ESPN who has been more accurate than not, predicts 25 wins...

I wouldn't bet on ESPN getting this one right. This team has more functional fit than they're giving it credit for. They're mostly looking at the individual talent which on it's own isn't that impressive. It's how the team plays as a unit that matters. This is how you end up with a team like the 54 win Knicks. When you have a group that fits together well it can out perform expectations. This is a relatively balanced roster. Not spectacular but solid. I doubt this team will win 50 games, unless everything breaks right early, but they can get into the 40's IMO.

Think about this. The team closed the season following the trade, going 12-30 after starting 5-35. They went 12-30 even losing Melo. This roster is way better than what we had to close last season. It's better offensively and defensively IMO.

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:Mostly A's and B's yet ESPN who has been more accurate than not, predicts 25 wins...

I wouldn't bet on ESPN getting this one right. This team has more functional fit than they're giving it credit for. They're mostly looking at the individual talent which on it's own isn't that impressive. It's how the team plays as a unit that matters. This is how you end up with a team like the 54 win Knicks. When you have a group that fits together well it can out perform expectations. This is a relatively balanced roster. Not spectacular but solid. I doubt this team will win 50 games, unless everything breaks right early, but they can get into the 40's IMO.

Think about this. The team closed the season following the trade, going 12-30 after starting 5-35. They went 12-30 even losing Melo. This roster is way better than what we had to close last season. It's better offensively and defensively IMO.

I would not bet on you getting this one right either

I bet that they win 33 games.

Why? What about this current roster says to you that it should only win 33 games?

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:Mostly A's and B's yet ESPN who has been more accurate than not, predicts 25 wins...

I wouldn't bet on ESPN getting this one right. This team has more functional fit than they're giving it credit for. They're mostly looking at the individual talent which on it's own isn't that impressive. It's how the team plays as a unit that matters. This is how you end up with a team like the 54 win Knicks. When you have a group that fits together well it can out perform expectations. This is a relatively balanced roster. Not spectacular but solid. I doubt this team will win 50 games, unless everything breaks right early, but they can get into the 40's IMO.

Think about this. The team closed the season following the trade, going 12-30 after starting 5-35. They went 12-30 even losing Melo. This roster is way better than what we had to close last season. It's better offensively and defensively IMO.

I would not bet on you getting this one right either

I bet that they win 33 games.

Why? What about this current roster says to you that it should only win 33 games?

Melo is the only legit NBA starter on the roster...

Calderon
Afflalo
Lopez

Melo is the reason why we won't win more than 34 games

Affalo and Lopez combined for 7 pts and 7 rebs per game last playoffs...COMBINED...Calderon can't get his own shot off...

Afflalo B
Galloway C+
Sasha D+

Melo A
Early C
Lance C

Kristaps A-
Kyle o'Quinn B-
Derrick Williams C+
Amundson C-

Lopez B
Seraphin C+

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:Mostly A's and B's yet ESPN who has been more accurate than not, predicts 25 wins...

I wouldn't bet on ESPN getting this one right. This team has more functional fit than they're giving it credit for. They're mostly looking at the individual talent which on it's own isn't that impressive. It's how the team plays as a unit that matters. This is how you end up with a team like the 54 win Knicks. When you have a group that fits together well it can out perform expectations. This is a relatively balanced roster. Not spectacular but solid. I doubt this team will win 50 games, unless everything breaks right early, but they can get into the 40's IMO.

Think about this. The team closed the season following the trade, going 12-30 after starting 5-35. They went 12-30 even losing Melo. This roster is way better than what we had to close last season. It's better offensively and defensively IMO.

I would not bet on you getting this one right either

I bet that they win 33 games.

Why? What about this current roster says to you that it should only win 33 games?

Melo is the only legit NBA starter on the roster...

Calderon
Afflalo
Lopez

Melo is the reason why we won't win more than 34 games

Affalo and Lopez combined for 7 pts and 7 rebs per game last playoffs...COMBINED...Calderon can't get his own shot off...

Because of the amount of points and rebounds they put up in their most recent playoff tourney, that some NBA starters still have yet to experience, should be the judgment for whether or not they are NBA starters. Do you even hear yourself man? You can do better.

Plus Holfresh ignores the actual circumstances. Portland was having some issues with injuries to key players. Also RoLo was coming off a Broken hand and Afflalo was out with a Shoulder Strain and neither was at their best. Using that playoff run as some kind of proof is ridiculous. The Blazers won over 50 games.

Holfresh mentions Jose getting his own shot but that's not how this offense works anyway. It's all about Ball and Player movement. If Jose is healthy he should be able to move and get open off screens, catch and shoot at a high level as he's done his entire career when healthy. You can see how the screens are set in this video.

Nalod wrote:Grades are stupid. The games won and lost are the true measure.

It's just something to talk about, but I agree that individual player grades aren't the most important thing. How this team as a group performs is much more important.
I think this team still has a few missing elements but it's much better than last year in terms of how the pieces all fit together. Jerian is highly effective working off Drag Screens and in PnR and RoLo, KP6 and even DWill are effective finishing on those kinds of plays. Afflalo, Jose and Sasha are good catch and shoot players, who can move and find the open spots on the floor.

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:Mostly A's and B's yet ESPN who has been more accurate than not, predicts 25 wins...

I wouldn't bet on ESPN getting this one right. This team has more functional fit than they're giving it credit for. They're mostly looking at the individual talent which on it's own isn't that impressive. It's how the team plays as a unit that matters. This is how you end up with a team like the 54 win Knicks. When you have a group that fits together well it can out perform expectations. This is a relatively balanced roster. Not spectacular but solid. I doubt this team will win 50 games, unless everything breaks right early, but they can get into the 40's IMO.

Think about this. The team closed the season following the trade, going 12-30 after starting 5-35. They went 12-30 even losing Melo. This roster is way better than what we had to close last season. It's better offensively and defensively IMO.

I would not bet on you getting this one right either

I bet that they win 33 games.

Why? What about this current roster says to you that it should only win 33 games?

Melo is the only legit NBA starter on the roster...

GetThePipe wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:Mostly A's and B's yet ESPN who has been more accurate than not, predicts 25 wins...

I wouldn't bet on ESPN getting this one right. This team has more functional fit than they're giving it credit for. They're mostly looking at the individual talent which on it's own isn't that impressive. It's how the team plays as a unit that matters. This is how you end up with a team like the 54 win Knicks. When you have a group that fits together well it can out perform expectations. This is a relatively balanced roster. Not spectacular but solid. I doubt this team will win 50 games, unless everything breaks right early, but they can get into the 40's IMO.

Think about this. The team closed the season following the trade, going 12-30 after starting 5-35. They went 12-30 even losing Melo. This roster is way better than what we had to close last season. It's better offensively and defensively IMO.

I would not bet on you getting this one right either

I bet that they win 33 games.

Why? What about this current roster says to you that it should only win 33 games?

Melo is the only legit NBA starter on the roster...

Calderon
Afflalo
Lopez

Melo is the reason why we won't win more than 34 games

LOL!