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New details are emerging about the fight that broke Geno Smith's jaw, and it doesn't look good for the quarterback
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mreinman
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8/13/2015  4:57 PM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/details-emerging-fight-broke-geno-141939681.html
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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8/13/2015  5:01 PM
This was reported hours after the punch, but he makes 500k a yr, and he's sweating $600..I'm pretty sure his broke dumb ass will need it now..
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8/13/2015  5:06 PM
knicks1248 wrote:This was reported hours after the punch, but he makes 500k a yr, and he's sweating $600..I'm pretty sure his broke dumb ass will need it now..
Rex picked him up.
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8/13/2015  5:09 PM
and handed him $600 for suckerpunching Geno im sure
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8/13/2015  5:11 PM
Doesn't this character stuff get vetted when you draft a guy? Im not saying everyone has to be Charlie Ward (Heisman winning QB) but when you hand the keys of the franchise to a guy and he does this its kills the lockerroom!

QB needs to be the guy your Offensive line will run thru walls for you! Im not saying the punch was justified at all, but Geno kind of asked for it.

Rex picked the guy up from waivers!!!! Bills play Jets twice a year, might as well get inside their heads anyway you can. Rex wants to beat the Jets!

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8/13/2015  5:12 PM
Nalod wrote:Doesn't this character stuff get vetted when you draft a guy? Im not saying everyone has to be Charlie Ward (Heisman winning QB) but when you hand the keys of the franchise to a guy and he does this its kills the lockerroom!

QB needs to be the guy your Offensive line will run thru walls for you! Im not saying the punch was justified at all, but Geno kind of asked for it.

Rex picked the guy up from waivers!!!! Bills play Jets twice a year, might as well get inside their heads anyway you can. Rex wants to beat the Jets!

I might be mistaken but I think the guy was one of the captians on his college squad. Also, Rex said he was a good teammate last year.
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8/13/2015  5:14 PM
he put his finger on his face and provoked him. Yuck
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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8/13/2015  5:41 PM
Geno is done IMO. He had a great opportunity to solidify his position as the starting QB if he had a solid performance this summer and he blew it. He lacks the maturity and common sense to be a leader of an NFL team. At this point it's about Fitz and Petty. Petty will get way more meaningful reps than he was getting and it should accelerate his development. I don't see Bowles putting Geno back in unless Fitz is struggling.
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8/13/2015  10:51 PM
Petty looked brutal tonight. Barf!

On the plus side, Fitz got his feet wet with the first team, and BMarsh caught his first ball as a Jet.

Defense looked out of sync. Thank God it's only preseason!

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8/14/2015  12:01 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:Petty looked brutal tonight. Barf!

On the plus side, Fitz got his feet wet with the first team, and BMarsh caught his first ball as a Jet.

Defense looked out of sync. Thank God it's only preseason!


It was good for Petty to get such an extended run. He's obviously a long way from ready, but this was a good experience for him. They're supposed to be working out Thigpen tomorrow.
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8/14/2015  12:35 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:Petty looked brutal tonight. Barf!

On the plus side, Fitz got his feet wet with the first team, and BMarsh caught his first ball as a Jet.

Defense looked out of sync. Thank God it's only preseason!


Ton of dropped passes for Petty, though, and his line did not help much.

He and Geno share a similar problem.

It is amazing how slow they look dropping back and setting up to pass. I give Petty a pass right now because he is just starting, but Geno did not seem to improve this aspect of his game last year. I understand that this is a product of the college offenses they played in, but it is still frustrating for me to watch.

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8/14/2015  7:22 AM
knicks1248 wrote:This was reported hours after the punch, but he makes 500k a yr, and he's sweating $600..I'm pretty sure his broke dumb ass will need it now..

http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/geno-smiths-greatest-hits-a-timeline-of-tomfoolery-20150811

www.profootballweekly.com/2013/04/01/barkley-smith-scouting-reports

January 2014: Dicking Around Out of the Gate
When Smith made his pro debut with the Jets after a successful college career, fans of Gang Green were pretty optimistic. I mean, at the very least he'd be an improvement over Mark Sanchez – right? However, it was an Instagram sex scandal that grabbed headlines instead of his play. Despite Geno being in a relationship at the time, he reportedly had multiple rendezvous with chick he met over the picture-sharing app, including a Christmas Day romp at his house. However, Geno committed the cardinal sin for any celebrity looking for a down-low tryst by sending out picture of his penis to said hook-up, who promptly posted it online for all to see. Geno, you're better than this bro!

January 2014: Jettisoned Away
A few weeks after Geno's Penis-Gate, he made tabloid headlines again after allegedly getting escorted off a Virgin America flight at LAX for refusing to stop using his phone. No doubt taking a page out of Alec Baldwin's Guide to Flying (remember his Words with Friends debacle?), Smith got into a "verbal altercation" with flight attendants. (The airline later apologized, chalking it all up to a simple "misunderstanding.") The obvious irony here? A Jet was ordered to leave an actual jet.

September 2014: What the Bleep?
Everyone knows the Jets were bad last season, and one of the many low-lights was Jets fans booing Geno after a loss to the Lions. How does our boy respond? By letting out a big ol' "Fuck You!" of course! Perhaps it's not the best idea to tell off your own team's fans in full view of TV cameras, so Geno later apologized, saying he let his "temper get the best of me in that situation." Ya think? He was later fined $12,000.

October 2014: Time Zoned-Out
A mere month later, the Jets once again were blown out – this time to the tune of 31-0 to the Chargers. Smith evidently wanted to blow off some steam, so he went to the movies with some fellow players after the shellacking. That's all well and good, but in the process the bunch of them missed a team meeting and blamed it on confusion over the Eastern and Pacific time zones. Missing a meeting is bad, but missing one after such a blowout is a whole new level of embarrassing.

December 2014: Geno in Denial
At the tail end of a hideous season, Geno couldn't seem to own up to the fact that the Jets were unequivocally sucking. In a head-scratcher of a postgame conference after yet another loss (this time to the Pats), Geno didn't seem to have any issues with his play. "I think we did a good job overall," he said to the confused pressroom. "Protection was great. The run game was great. Aside from one or two plays here and there, I think as an offense we did a pretty good job against a really good defense." By the time the season was in the can, Geno finally admitted the Gang Green "underachieved."

July 2015: The Poll
Imagine you're Geno Smith this summer, trying to relax and put a horrendous season in your rearview. You turn on ESPN and see that, in a poll conducted by the network of NFL executives, you're ranked at the very end of a list of projected starting NFL QB's. How would you respond? Said Geno, "I laugh at that. I laugh at it. It's hilarious." Um, OK.

August 2015: The Sucker Punch
It all leads up to this, the pinnacle of Geno and Jets stupidity. With Rex Ryan gone and a new season on the horizon, Jets fans were hoping to finally get a glimpse of the light at the end of a cold, dark tunnel. However, those hopes were dashed even before a single point was scored, when Geno was "sucker punched" during a dispute with reserve linebacker IK Enemkpali. The melee will put Smith on the sidelines for 6-10 weeks with a broken jaw, and had new coach Todd Bowles calling the whole ordeal "something very childish." Welcome to New York, Todd!


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Apart from Nawrocki’s critique of Smith’s mechanics, Nawrocki adds this assessment of Smith: “Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence — does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor — no urgency. Not committed or focused — marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college — cannot handle hard coaching. Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.”

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8/14/2015  8:03 AM
nixluva wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Petty looked brutal tonight. Barf!

On the plus side, Fitz got his feet wet with the first team, and BMarsh caught his first ball as a Jet.

Defense looked out of sync. Thank God it's only preseason!


It was good for Petty to get such an extended run. He's obviously a long way from ready, but this was a good experience for him. They're supposed to be working out Thigpen tomorrow.

Oh man Thigpen is awful lol

Can't they bring in Grossman? Where's Orton these days?

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8/14/2015  9:48 AM
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Nalod wrote:Doesn't this character stuff get vetted when you draft a guy? Im not saying everyone has to be Charlie Ward (Heisman winning QB) but when you hand the keys of the franchise to a guy and he does this its kills the lockerroom!

QB needs to be the guy your Offensive line will run thru walls for you! Im not saying the punch was justified at all, but Geno kind of asked for it.

Rex picked the guy up from waivers!!!! Bills play Jets twice a year, might as well get inside their heads anyway you can. Rex wants to beat the Jets!

I might be mistaken but I think the guy was one of the captians on his college squad. Also, Rex said he was a good teammate last year.

Talking about Geno. 39th pick is still a high investment and Teams test the shyt out of players, especially QB's for leadership skills, IQ, character, etc.
The QB is the on field and locker room CEO. He is the leader. One thing for lineman to do this but Geno did not act as a leader to create the conflict, and he sure as hell did not demonstrate leadership or a professional manner in the moments leading up to his jaw breaking.

We'll beat him down, he'll get another chance and we'll root for the come back. Bottom line is NFL Starting QB jobs are not easy gigs to get. It was his. Losing to injury is one thing, but this was something else.

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8/14/2015  9:54 AM
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knicks1248 wrote:This was reported hours after the punch, but he makes 500k a yr, and he's sweating $600..I'm pretty sure his broke dumb ass will need it now..

http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/geno-smiths-greatest-hits-a-timeline-of-tomfoolery-20150811

www.profootballweekly.com/2013/04/01/barkley-smith-scouting-reports

January 2014: Dicking Around Out of the Gate
When Smith made his pro debut with the Jets after a successful college career, fans of Gang Green were pretty optimistic. I mean, at the very least he'd be an improvement over Mark Sanchez – right? However, it was an Instagram sex scandal that grabbed headlines instead of his play. Despite Geno being in a relationship at the time, he reportedly had multiple rendezvous with chick he met over the picture-sharing app, including a Christmas Day romp at his house. However, Geno committed the cardinal sin for any celebrity looking for a down-low tryst by sending out picture of his penis to said hook-up, who promptly posted it online for all to see. Geno, you're better than this bro!

January 2014: Jettisoned Away
A few weeks after Geno's Penis-Gate, he made tabloid headlines again after allegedly getting escorted off a Virgin America flight at LAX for refusing to stop using his phone. No doubt taking a page out of Alec Baldwin's Guide to Flying (remember his Words with Friends debacle?), Smith got into a "verbal altercation" with flight attendants. (The airline later apologized, chalking it all up to a simple "misunderstanding.") The obvious irony here? A Jet was ordered to leave an actual jet.

September 2014: What the Bleep?
Everyone knows the Jets were bad last season, and one of the many low-lights was Jets fans booing Geno after a loss to the Lions. How does our boy respond? By letting out a big ol' "Fuck You!" of course! Perhaps it's not the best idea to tell off your own team's fans in full view of TV cameras, so Geno later apologized, saying he let his "temper get the best of me in that situation." Ya think? He was later fined $12,000.

October 2014: Time Zoned-Out
A mere month later, the Jets once again were blown out – this time to the tune of 31-0 to the Chargers. Smith evidently wanted to blow off some steam, so he went to the movies with some fellow players after the shellacking. That's all well and good, but in the process the bunch of them missed a team meeting and blamed it on confusion over the Eastern and Pacific time zones. Missing a meeting is bad, but missing one after such a blowout is a whole new level of embarrassing.

December 2014: Geno in Denial
At the tail end of a hideous season, Geno couldn't seem to own up to the fact that the Jets were unequivocally sucking. In a head-scratcher of a postgame conference after yet another loss (this time to the Pats), Geno didn't seem to have any issues with his play. "I think we did a good job overall," he said to the confused pressroom. "Protection was great. The run game was great. Aside from one or two plays here and there, I think as an offense we did a pretty good job against a really good defense." By the time the season was in the can, Geno finally admitted the Gang Green "underachieved."

July 2015: The Poll
Imagine you're Geno Smith this summer, trying to relax and put a horrendous season in your rearview. You turn on ESPN and see that, in a poll conducted by the network of NFL executives, you're ranked at the very end of a list of projected starting NFL QB's. How would you respond? Said Geno, "I laugh at that. I laugh at it. It's hilarious." Um, OK.

August 2015: The Sucker Punch
It all leads up to this, the pinnacle of Geno and Jets stupidity. With Rex Ryan gone and a new season on the horizon, Jets fans were hoping to finally get a glimpse of the light at the end of a cold, dark tunnel. However, those hopes were dashed even before a single point was scored, when Geno was "sucker punched" during a dispute with reserve linebacker IK Enemkpali. The melee will put Smith on the sidelines for 6-10 weeks with a broken jaw, and had new coach Todd Bowles calling the whole ordeal "something very childish." Welcome to New York, Todd!


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Apart from Nawrocki’s critique of Smith’s mechanics, Nawrocki adds this assessment of Smith: “Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence — does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor — no urgency. Not committed or focused — marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college — cannot handle hard coaching. Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.”

For got about most of outlined in this article. Idzik's gone. Now Geno might be too.

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8/14/2015  11:04 AM
Geno's just overstayed his welcome, too many incidents, too much baggage associated with him, and Jets brass was looking to replace him the moment the season ended.

This incident, unfortunate as it was, just speeds up the process.

New details are emerging about the fight that broke Geno Smith's jaw, and it doesn't look good for the quarterback

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