CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes, Knicks1248. In conclusion Melo dug his own grave by re signing for the max with the Knicks knowing the roster was in Flux. There are no guarantees in free agency, and no one is knocking down doors to play with Melo as the alpha.

If he truly wanted to compete for a ring, he should've took less in Chi or Houston.

His chances weren't that better than they would have been here, because it wasn't about just taken less money, it was about losing have of their important role players, similar to what happen when he got here.

NO way in hell (in today's NBA) do i take less money, unless i'm the missing piece, with Rose and Noah consistently getting hurt, he may have ended up shouldering the load, and harden, Howard, and melo one the same team seems stupid.

Last off season, every media outlet had melo going to the bulls, and how wrong were they, that's why the silly media reports about him being upset at phils move, is pure speculation.

Duncan took less money several times. Lebron took less to play in Miami. Kobe is just greedy prik.

do we really have to bring up 36 yr old ducan taking less $ or labron hooking up with(already on board)wade and bosh.

You really think melo wouldn't have taken less if labron and bosh told him they wanted to play with the knicks. Phil had enough cap to sign a major FA and not one showed any real interest.

If melo would have sign for 7 million less, the most we would have gotten this off season would have been shved, Jason smith and ndour, and they don't exactly thrust us in to contenders.

Dirk Nowitzki as well:

http://www.businessinsider.com/dirk-nowitzki-lowest-paid-mavericks-starter-2014-12

Nowitzki is 37. Guys under 35 don't do it. LeBron in Miami netted the same as Melo taking less because he didn't have to pay city and state income tax.

Different sport, but same result:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/02/25/tom-brady-extension/1947313/

Please tell me age has something to do with Tom Brady.

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes, Knicks1248. In conclusion Melo dug his own grave by re signing for the max with the Knicks knowing the roster was in Flux. There are no guarantees in free agency, and no one is knocking down doors to play with Melo as the alpha.

If he truly wanted to compete for a ring, he should've took less in Chi or Houston.

His chances weren't that better than they would have been here, because it wasn't about just taken less money, it was about losing have of their important role players, similar to what happen when he got here.

NO way in hell (in today's NBA) do i take less money, unless i'm the missing piece, with Rose and Noah consistently getting hurt, he may have ended up shouldering the load, and harden, Howard, and melo one the same team seems stupid.

Last off season, every media outlet had melo going to the bulls, and how wrong were they, that's why the silly media reports about him being upset at phils move, is pure speculation.

Duncan took less money several times. Lebron took less to play in Miami. Kobe is just greedy prik.

do we really have to bring up 36 yr old ducan taking less $ or labron hooking up with(already on board)wade and bosh.

You really think melo wouldn't have taken less if labron and bosh told him they wanted to play with the knicks. Phil had enough cap to sign a major FA and not one showed any real interest.

If melo would have sign for 7 million less, the most we would have gotten this off season would have been shved, Jason smith and ndour, and they don't exactly thrust us in to contenders.

Dirk Nowitzki as well:

http://www.businessinsider.com/dirk-nowitzki-lowest-paid-mavericks-starter-2014-12

Nowitzki is 37. Guys under 35 don't do it. LeBron in Miami netted the same as Melo taking less because he didn't have to pay city and state income tax.

Different sport, but same result:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/02/25/tom-brady-extension/1947313/

Please tell me age has something to do with Tom Brady.

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes, Knicks1248. In conclusion Melo dug his own grave by re signing for the max with the Knicks knowing the roster was in Flux. There are no guarantees in free agency, and no one is knocking down doors to play with Melo as the alpha.

If he truly wanted to compete for a ring, he should've took less in Chi or Houston.

His chances weren't that better than they would have been here, because it wasn't about just taken less money, it was about losing have of their important role players, similar to what happen when he got here.

NO way in hell (in today's NBA) do i take less money, unless i'm the missing piece, with Rose and Noah consistently getting hurt, he may have ended up shouldering the load, and harden, Howard, and melo one the same team seems stupid.

Last off season, every media outlet had melo going to the bulls, and how wrong were they, that's why the silly media reports about him being upset at phils move, is pure speculation.

Duncan took less money several times. Lebron took less to play in Miami. Kobe is just greedy prik.

do we really have to bring up 36 yr old ducan taking less $ or labron hooking up with(already on board)wade and bosh.

You really think melo wouldn't have taken less if labron and bosh told him they wanted to play with the knicks. Phil had enough cap to sign a major FA and not one showed any real interest.

If melo would have sign for 7 million less, the most we would have gotten this off season would have been shved, Jason smith and ndour, and they don't exactly thrust us in to contenders.

Dirk Nowitzki as well:

http://www.businessinsider.com/dirk-nowitzki-lowest-paid-mavericks-starter-2014-12

Nowitzki is 37. Guys under 35 don't do it. LeBron in Miami netted the same as Melo taking less because he didn't have to pay city and state income tax.

Different sport, but same result:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/02/25/tom-brady-extension/1947313/

Please tell me age has something to do with Tom Brady.

It is a totally different sport and a totally different cba. Superstars in the nba don't take the pay cuts until they hit 35+.

David West, 34:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/6/8819331/david-west-spurs-nba-free-agency-2015

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes, Knicks1248. In conclusion Melo dug his own grave by re signing for the max with the Knicks knowing the roster was in Flux. There are no guarantees in free agency, and no one is knocking down doors to play with Melo as the alpha.

If he truly wanted to compete for a ring, he should've took less in Chi or Houston.

His chances weren't that better than they would have been here, because it wasn't about just taken less money, it was about losing have of their important role players, similar to what happen when he got here.

NO way in hell (in today's NBA) do i take less money, unless i'm the missing piece, with Rose and Noah consistently getting hurt, he may have ended up shouldering the load, and harden, Howard, and melo one the same team seems stupid.

Last off season, every media outlet had melo going to the bulls, and how wrong were they, that's why the silly media reports about him being upset at phils move, is pure speculation.

Duncan took less money several times. Lebron took less to play in Miami. Kobe is just greedy prik.

Many articles were already written on this. LeBron pulled the wool over people's eyes. I don't think it was a factor but he got MORE money than if he said it Cleveland by going to Miami the first couple years and basically washed out over the course of the deal when he opted out. What he did bares no resemblance to what Dancan did. Apples to cinder blocks comparison.

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes, Knicks1248. In conclusion Melo dug his own grave by re signing for the max with the Knicks knowing the roster was in Flux. There are no guarantees in free agency, and no one is knocking down doors to play with Melo as the alpha.

If he truly wanted to compete for a ring, he should've took less in Chi or Houston.

His chances weren't that better than they would have been here, because it wasn't about just taken less money, it was about losing have of their important role players, similar to what happen when he got here.

NO way in hell (in today's NBA) do i take less money, unless i'm the missing piece, with Rose and Noah consistently getting hurt, he may have ended up shouldering the load, and harden, Howard, and melo one the same team seems stupid.

Last off season, every media outlet had melo going to the bulls, and how wrong were they, that's why the silly media reports about him being upset at phils move, is pure speculation.

Duncan took less money several times. Lebron took less to play in Miami. Kobe is just greedy prik.

do we really have to bring up 36 yr old ducan taking less $ or labron hooking up with(already on board)wade and bosh.

You really think melo wouldn't have taken less if labron and bosh told him they wanted to play with the knicks. Phil had enough cap to sign a major FA and not one showed any real interest.

If melo would have sign for 7 million less, the most we would have gotten this off season would have been shved, Jason smith and ndour, and they don't exactly thrust us in to contenders.

Dirk Nowitzki as well:

http://www.businessinsider.com/dirk-nowitzki-lowest-paid-mavericks-starter-2014-12

Nowitzki is 37. Guys under 35 don't do it. LeBron in Miami netted the same as Melo taking less because he didn't have to pay city and state income tax.

Different sport, but same result:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/02/25/tom-brady-extension/1947313/

Please tell me age has something to do with Tom Brady.

It is a totally different sport and a totally different cba. Superstars in the nba don't take the pay cuts until they hit 35+.

David West, 34:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/6/8819331/david-west-spurs-nba-free-agency-2015

I think he is the only one but he was never a max guy.

Magic Johnson took a pay cut after winning an MVP:

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-26/sports/sp-1283_1_magic-johnson

holfresh wrote:Melo took less money...Didn't he give up 2 mil per?

He didn't take a pay cut though. He actually got a raise.

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes, Knicks1248. In conclusion Melo dug his own grave by re signing for the max with the Knicks knowing the roster was in Flux. There are no guarantees in free agency, and no one is knocking down doors to play with Melo as the alpha.

If he truly wanted to compete for a ring, he should've took less in Chi or Houston.

His chances weren't that better than they would have been here, because it wasn't about just taken less money, it was about losing have of their important role players, similar to what happen when he got here.

NO way in hell (in today's NBA) do i take less money, unless i'm the missing piece, with Rose and Noah consistently getting hurt, he may have ended up shouldering the load, and harden, Howard, and melo one the same team seems stupid.

Last off season, every media outlet had melo going to the bulls, and how wrong were they, that's why the silly media reports about him being upset at phils move, is pure speculation.

Duncan took less money several times. Lebron took less to play in Miami. Kobe is just greedy prik.

do we really have to bring up 36 yr old ducan taking less $ or labron hooking up with(already on board)wade and bosh.

You really think melo wouldn't have taken less if labron and bosh told him they wanted to play with the knicks. Phil had enough cap to sign a major FA and not one showed any real interest.

If melo would have sign for 7 million less, the most we would have gotten this off season would have been shved, Jason smith and ndour, and they don't exactly thrust us in to contenders.

Dirk Nowitzki as well:

http://www.businessinsider.com/dirk-nowitzki-lowest-paid-mavericks-starter-2014-12

Nowitzki is 37. Guys under 35 don't do it. LeBron in Miami netted the same as Melo taking less because he didn't have to pay city and state income tax.

Different sport, but same result:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/02/25/tom-brady-extension/1947313/

Please tell me age has something to do with Tom Brady.

It is a totally different sport and a totally different cba. Superstars in the nba don't take the pay cuts until they hit 35+.

David West, 34:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/6/8819331/david-west-spurs-nba-free-agency-2015

I think he is the only one but he was never a max guy.

Magic Johnson took a pay cut after winning an MVP:

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-26/sports/sp-1283_1_magic-johnson

One guy 25 years ago. If you go back that far there maybe others. Shouldn't Melo be compared to his peers working under the same labor agreement?

Of course comparing to peers would make more sense. Johnson also spent around half a decade before taking the paycut moving in the top 3 for highest paid players in the league. Also the cut moved him to 11th in terms of highest paid player. That said, still an impressive find. Digging deep into the history books, googling for hours to find one example.

Doesn't change the narrative. Melo took the money instead of seeking a winner. SO he skimmed $5mill of $129m to end up $124...he's still getting a pay increase, not a pay cut from his last contract.

Greedy like Kobe...but at least Kobe has 5 rings to show for his asshattery.

holfresh wrote:Melo took less money...Didn't he give up 2 mil per?

thought it was 1 million per.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo took less money...Didn't he give up 2 mil per?

thought it was 1 million per.

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Just gave Nowitzki, Duncan, West, Lebron already. If you want to throw fringe guys like Lin, Granger, or Amare be my guest.

Doesn't change the narrative. Melo took the money instead of seeking a winner. SO he skimmed $5mill of $129m to end up $124...he's still getting a pay increase, not a pay cut from his last contract.

Greedy like Kobe...but at least Kobe has 5 rings to show for his asshattery.

We get that you don't like Melo but LeBron is not an example of taking less. He never has and never will. In addition he continues to give himself one yr opt-outs which is smart for him but holds the Cavs hostage. I doubt he will but he can up and leave them with all those crazy deals they signed everybody else too. In addition, he has made it clear he will take the max every yr.

Lebron went from $17m in Cleveland to $14.5m in Miami:

https://web.archive.org/web/20101125215036/http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm