dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes. The 2 peat Lakers. Pau, Bynum, Odom all would like a word with you. Even Artest bailing out Kobe's worst playoff game in Game 7 against Boston.

Without those guys touches, Kobe doesn't have his last 2 rings.

Are you talking about the two playoff series where Kobe averaged 29 pts and 30 pts per???..5+ rebs, 5+ assist???..Those playoff series??..You mean the two playoff series the Kobe was Finals MVP???

in the orlando series he shot 52.7TS%-- not good

58-135 for 43% from the field-- not good

.93:1 usage:assist ratio is actually great... albeit against an inferior finalist-- garnett was injured

in the celtics series he shot 53.3TS%-- not good

10-22
8-20
10-29
10-22
13-27
9-19
6-24 in the game where the celtics had lost perkins in game 6
60-163 for 36% from the field-- horrible!

1.56:1 usage:assist ratio the return of the black garter snake who shrinks under real pressure

So when you win the Finals, A win is still not a win??

in the conference finals a win is win... BUT they can be qualified.

the celtics destroyed the lakers in 2008 and paul "the truth" pierce won mvp of the finals, guarding bryant the lion's share of the time. both teams were at full force and healthy. here a win is a win, solid and genuine.

orlando had NO business being in the finals but hooray for bryant and his POS 43% FG%. the magic were overmatched. here a win is a win but wow was it a cheap win.

by the way here are the fg/fga against orlando:

16-34
10-22
11-25
11-31
http://10-23
58-135

celtics lost perkins in game 6 of that series otherwise the celtics win that series too and poor wittle bwack mamba is stuck on 4. here a win is a win but just not very valuable.

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes. The 2 peat Lakers. Pau, Bynum, Odom all would like a word with you. Even Artest bailing out Kobe's worst playoff game in Game 7 against Boston.

Without those guys touches, Kobe doesn't have his last 2 rings.

Are you talking about the two playoff series where Kobe averaged 29 pts and 30 pts per???..5+ rebs, 5+ assist???..Those playoff series??..You mean the two playoff series the Kobe was Finals MVP???

in the orlando series he shot 52.7TS%-- not good

58-135 for 43% from the field-- not good

.93:1 usage:assist ratio is actually great... albeit against an inferior finalist-- garnett was injured

in the celtics series he shot 53.3TS%-- not good

10-22
8-20
10-29
10-22
13-27
9-19
6-24 in the game where the celtics had lost perkins in game 6
60-163 for 36% from the field-- horrible!

1.56:1 usage:assist ratio the return of the black garter snake who shrinks under real pressure

So when you win the Finals, A win is still not a win??

in the conference finals a win is win... BUT they can be qualified.

the celtics destroyed the lakers in 2008 and paul "the truth" pierce won mvp of the finals, guarding bryant the lion's share of the time. both teams were at full force and healthy. here a win is a win, solid and genuine.

orlando had NO business being in the finals but hooray for bryant and his POS 43% FG%. the magic were overmatched. here a win is a win but wow was it a cheap win.

by the way here are the fg/fga against orlando:

16-34
10-22
11-25
11-31
http://10-23
58-135

celtics lost perkins in game 6 of that series otherwise the celtics win that series too and poor wittle bwack mamba is stuck on 4. here a win is a win but just not very valuable.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes. The 2 peat Lakers. Pau, Bynum, Odom all would like a word with you. Even Artest bailing out Kobe's worst playoff game in Game 7 against Boston.

Without those guys touches, Kobe doesn't have his last 2 rings.

Are you talking about the two playoff series where Kobe averaged 29 pts and 30 pts per???..5+ rebs, 5+ assist???..Those playoff series??..You mean the two playoff series the Kobe was Finals MVP???

in the orlando series he shot 52.7TS%-- not good

58-135 for 43% from the field-- not good

.93:1 usage:assist ratio is actually great... albeit against an inferior finalist-- garnett was injured

in the celtics series he shot 53.3TS%-- not good

10-22
8-20
10-29
10-22
13-27
9-19
6-24 in the game where the celtics had lost perkins in game 6
60-163 for 36% from the field-- horrible!

1.56:1 usage:assist ratio the return of the black garter snake who shrinks under real pressure

So when you win the Finals, A win is still not a win??

in the conference finals a win is win... BUT they can be qualified.

the celtics destroyed the lakers in 2008 and paul "the truth" pierce won mvp of the finals, guarding bryant the lion's share of the time. both teams were at full force and healthy. here a win is a win, solid and genuine.

orlando had NO business being in the finals but hooray for bryant and his POS 43% FG%. the magic were overmatched. here a win is a win but wow was it a cheap win.

by the way here are the fg/fga against orlando:

16-34
10-22
11-25
11-31
http://10-23
58-135

celtics lost perkins in game 6 of that series otherwise the celtics win that series too and poor wittle bwack mamba is stuck on 4. here a win is a win but just not very valuable.

Interesting perspective coming from a guy that discounts the injuries the Knicks have had every spring that they were in the playoffs.

the essence of my point went over your misshapen head. hint: the numbers involved are 82 and 7 and 16.667

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes. The 2 peat Lakers. Pau, Bynum, Odom all would like a word with you. Even Artest bailing out Kobe's worst playoff game in Game 7 against Boston.

Without those guys touches, Kobe doesn't have his last 2 rings.

Are you talking about the two playoff series where Kobe averaged 29 pts and 30 pts per???..5+ rebs, 5+ assist???..Those playoff series??..You mean the two playoff series the Kobe was Finals MVP???

in the orlando series he shot 52.7TS%-- not good

58-135 for 43% from the field-- not good

.93:1 usage:assist ratio is actually great... albeit against an inferior finalist-- garnett was injured

in the celtics series he shot 53.3TS%-- not good

10-22
8-20
10-29
10-22
13-27
9-19
6-24 in the game where the celtics had lost perkins in game 6
60-163 for 36% from the field-- horrible!

1.56:1 usage:assist ratio the return of the black garter snake who shrinks under real pressure

So when you win the Finals, A win is still not a win??

in the conference finals a win is win... BUT they can be qualified.

the celtics destroyed the lakers in 2008 and paul "the truth" pierce won mvp of the finals, guarding bryant the lion's share of the time. both teams were at full force and healthy. here a win is a win, solid and genuine.

orlando had NO business being in the finals but hooray for bryant and his POS 43% FG%. the magic were overmatched. here a win is a win but wow was it a cheap win.

by the way here are the fg/fga against orlando:

16-34
10-22
11-25
11-31
http://10-23
58-135

celtics lost perkins in game 6 of that series otherwise the celtics win that series too and poor wittle bwack mamba is stuck on 4. here a win is a win but just not very valuable.

LeBron must have been disappointing in the Finals huh..TS% 47.7..USG 39..He didn't make Shump and JR better..

he missed love and irving a little bit. both were lost before the finals. irving should not have played at all-- terrible strategy by the cavs.

smith is a loser and shumpert is a 7th man in the nba.

i am sure there are a few who relish me making mincemeat of you again. never gets old i guess.

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes. The 2 peat Lakers. Pau, Bynum, Odom all would like a word with you. Even Artest bailing out Kobe's worst playoff game in Game 7 against Boston.

Without those guys touches, Kobe doesn't have his last 2 rings.

Are you talking about the two playoff series where Kobe averaged 29 pts and 30 pts per???..5+ rebs, 5+ assist???..Those playoff series??..You mean the two playoff series the Kobe was Finals MVP???

in the orlando series he shot 52.7TS%-- not good

58-135 for 43% from the field-- not good

.93:1 usage:assist ratio is actually great... albeit against an inferior finalist-- garnett was injured

in the celtics series he shot 53.3TS%-- not good

10-22
8-20
10-29
10-22
13-27
9-19
6-24 in the game where the celtics had lost perkins in game 6
60-163 for 36% from the field-- horrible!

1.56:1 usage:assist ratio the return of the black garter snake who shrinks under real pressure

So when you win the Finals, A win is still not a win??

in the conference finals a win is win... BUT they can be qualified.

the celtics destroyed the lakers in 2008 and paul "the truth" pierce won mvp of the finals, guarding bryant the lion's share of the time. both teams were at full force and healthy. here a win is a win, solid and genuine.

orlando had NO business being in the finals but hooray for bryant and his POS 43% FG%. the magic were overmatched. here a win is a win but wow was it a cheap win.

by the way here are the fg/fga against orlando:

16-34
10-22
11-25
11-31
http://10-23
58-135

celtics lost perkins in game 6 of that series otherwise the celtics win that series too and poor wittle bwack mamba is stuck on 4. here a win is a win but just not very valuable.

LeBron must have been disappointing in the Finals huh..TS% 47.7..USG 39..He didn't make Shump and JR better..

he missed love and irving a little bit. both were lost before the finals. irving should not have played at all-- terrible strategy by the cavs.

smith is a loser and shumpert is a 7th man in the nba.

i am sure there are a few who relish me making mincemeat of you again. never gets old i guess.

Melo were playing with those losers, maybe Melo too was/is missing two all stars...

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fwk00 wrote:Is today Negative Nancy day? Good grief. Are we back to dumping on Dolan, Phil can do no right, Fisher sucks, and nobody on this team is any good before they even step on the court?

Get some counseling fer crissakes. Or find another team before you jump out the basement window and hurt yourselves.

It seems to me that if the new additions perform at their expected levels this should be a competitive team. It starts with a healthy Melo. People can hate on Melo but really his presence on the roster with the new additions should allow this team to be a playoff contender. But he's got to be healthy and in NBA form, which we won't know until he gets back on the court.

The addition of RoLo, Afflalo and O'Quinn should help to make this team more stable. They aren't sexy pick ups but they are hard workers on both ends. Helping this team to be a much better defensive team is a very important key to success this year. We really need bounce back seasons from RoLo and Afflalo. The better they play next to Melo, the better chance this team has to get wins.

Gallo, Jose, LT, Early and Lou should be even more comfortable after a season in the system. We gotta hope Jose can be more efficient and stay healthy. Gallo and Early need to take a step forward in their development this year.

Then we have KP and Jerian, who we hope can contribute at a reasonable rookie level. They won't have to carry the action as our kids did last year.

One question is what will we be able to get out of DWill. He could be a real X factor this year. He's got a lot of untapped talent and if we can get him going it could really provide a nice boost.

There are a lot of questions going into this season but there is also a lot of good news and hope to be more competitive than last year.

Well, "last year" is being misinterpreted by way too many people. It represented a transformation. The first half of the year was Phil providing Melo with empirical evidence that that current roster wasn't winning anything even if Bargnani and Calderon were healthy. Melo's early season injury sealed the deal. So when you factor in no Melo and an unmotivated cadre of vets, the Knicks weren't winning a playoff spot. After that the season was a well-orchestrated drive to lose. To think otherwise and whine endlessly about a 17 win season is just psychotic.

In truth, there is no last season to discuss. Phil tried it Melo's way and it failed none of which is either Melo's or Phil's fault (not that that will stop the blame game). The season simply turned into a transition year. Assuming the obligatory and mandatory tanking exercise were not a factor, the second half team would have won about 25 games and had Melo and others been healthy, maybe as many as thirty. The draft distorts everyone's record.

I think the Knicks can conservatively win 42-45 games IFF the main players stay healthy. Any significant injuries are a playoffs stopper.

I don't think Melo will leave nor do I think he's upset. Where would he go to be guaranteed *anything*. No such place. He can and will win here. I like all the signings. Phil has assembled a roster that is built to win. Grant is going to be a force as will Krisp. That's a Big Three in the making. And Melo is no longer alone in the final seconds taking the last shot - Sasha and Gallo both aren't afraid to shoot. It makes a big difference.

I'm looking forward to the season.

As an aside, I'm so glad the Knicks cut Ledo.

Be careful....optimism is not allowed.....around here!

But I agree. Melo reads all the negative criticism and Im sure hes motivated.

So would you agree that if I become more of a hater, my additional hate will motivate Anthony even more, cause him to play even better, and therefore improve our record?

Shouldn't I get some kind of financial renumeration for doing this if it leads the Knicks to some success in the playoffs?

Just a thought.

Not sure but I love the quote from Jackson in the Phil Files that you just posted. Have to think that he looked into Melo's ethics before he offered the deal he did no?

Real clever, buddy, I think Phil was still naive when he signed Melo. Its been a growth process for him. You also had the Dolan factor.

Remember my narrative, though- Anthony being injured and needing an operation, but still wanting to continue playing so he could be in the All Star Game, is the transformative "event" for Phil.

You keep saying the Dolan factor in Melo's signing..Phil said that Dolan left it up to him to decide whether or not to sign Melo..Maybe you believe Phil is lying??

I think Phil knows how to play the game. Organizational politics sometimes trump he truth...not the time for him to instigate a public power struggle with Dolan. I assume Phil's read Sun Tzu's The Art of War- you have to pick your battles.

The big internal battle will come if Anthony doesn't totally buy into the system this year and puts up his normal numbers but the team flounders and there is some dissension in the locker room.

Can he actually live with an 18/8/5 line, slightly fewer minutes, and no All Star Game if the team is winning and actually makes the playoffs?

Will be an interesting season.

Is this based on what you think should happen or what has happened with a Phil Jackson team?? Because MJ shot attempts didn't change with Phil Jackson and Kobe's shot attempts increased under Phil Jackson..MJ assist per game went down under Phil...Have you seen the triangle work without an ISO player??

As is frequently the case, you don't give me an answer to my question and don't see the concept I'm throwing out at you. It is all about what a player is willing to do for a team in order for it to be successful.

All teams need a good ISO player or two- Jackson has admitted this, and had battles with Kobe- but Kobe and Jordan are/were also all-around players in almost every aspect of the game and on both sides of the court. They were also leaders, fierce competitors, had unlimited motors, and had an ability to rise to the occasion on defense or offense. I doubt if Anthony would even start on those Bull's teams, to be honest.

By the way- think the emergence of Pippen, and more guys touching the ball might have accounted for Jordan's assist stats going down a bit...just a thought.

Oh...that's right, Jordan and Kobe also have one other thing in common- they never won a title without Jackson as their coach-NO?

Rookie wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I can put some argument into what was selected 19-35 because it was and still is an unsuspected add ins. but the 1 and only key for this teams future is porzingis. Not Carmelo Anthony or any of these free agents but what will Porzingis be at 21 years old. If we can't compete for a chip I really don't give a sht that's why I think we should trade melo-- not because melo scks or is worth 10/100 etc. but he represents the only other avenue to value add in rebuilding assets who can compliment Porzingis as a core. It's all about porzingis and his ability to stay healthy and to learn how to play the way a 7-3 guy can be most efficient to his team.

Man, if we could get something done with Orlando for Melo, I think I would be in basketball heaven. They are ripe with young talent, enough to give some up for that last piece they need.

I think Melo will actually get better accustomed to playing in the Triangle and knowing his spots this season and over the next few. His game isn't really predicated on great athleticism and should age well. Especially as he learns to use more of a low impact game and how to use the system more as he's been practicing.

I think the players we have around Melo will improve this year and over the next few. When Melo has it going his top end is higher than any of these kids on Orlando IMO. As the young guys mature I expect their impact to grow and for Melo to be able to lay back a bit. I think Melo's presence will make the transition easier for our young players.

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fwk00 wrote:Is today Negative Nancy day? Good grief. Are we back to dumping on Dolan, Phil can do no right, Fisher sucks, and nobody on this team is any good before they even step on the court?

Get some counseling fer crissakes. Or find another team before you jump out the basement window and hurt yourselves.

It seems to me that if the new additions perform at their expected levels this should be a competitive team. It starts with a healthy Melo. People can hate on Melo but really his presence on the roster with the new additions should allow this team to be a playoff contender. But he's got to be healthy and in NBA form, which we won't know until he gets back on the court.

The addition of RoLo, Afflalo and O'Quinn should help to make this team more stable. They aren't sexy pick ups but they are hard workers on both ends. Helping this team to be a much better defensive team is a very important key to success this year. We really need bounce back seasons from RoLo and Afflalo. The better they play next to Melo, the better chance this team has to get wins.

Gallo, Jose, LT, Early and Lou should be even more comfortable after a season in the system. We gotta hope Jose can be more efficient and stay healthy. Gallo and Early need to take a step forward in their development this year.

Then we have KP and Jerian, who we hope can contribute at a reasonable rookie level. They won't have to carry the action as our kids did last year.

One question is what will we be able to get out of DWill. He could be a real X factor this year. He's got a lot of untapped talent and if we can get him going it could really provide a nice boost.

There are a lot of questions going into this season but there is also a lot of good news and hope to be more competitive than last year.

Well, "last year" is being misinterpreted by way too many people. It represented a transformation. The first half of the year was Phil providing Melo with empirical evidence that that current roster wasn't winning anything even if Bargnani and Calderon were healthy. Melo's early season injury sealed the deal. So when you factor in no Melo and an unmotivated cadre of vets, the Knicks weren't winning a playoff spot. After that the season was a well-orchestrated drive to lose. To think otherwise and whine endlessly about a 17 win season is just psychotic.

In truth, there is no last season to discuss. Phil tried it Melo's way and it failed none of which is either Melo's or Phil's fault (not that that will stop the blame game). The season simply turned into a transition year. Assuming the obligatory and mandatory tanking exercise were not a factor, the second half team would have won about 25 games and had Melo and others been healthy, maybe as many as thirty. The draft distorts everyone's record.

I think the Knicks can conservatively win 42-45 games IFF the main players stay healthy. Any significant injuries are a playoffs stopper.

I don't think Melo will leave nor do I think he's upset. Where would he go to be guaranteed *anything*. No such place. He can and will win here. I like all the signings. Phil has assembled a roster that is built to win. Grant is going to be a force as will Krisp. That's a Big Three in the making. And Melo is no longer alone in the final seconds taking the last shot - Sasha and Gallo both aren't afraid to shoot. It makes a big difference.

I'm looking forward to the season.

As an aside, I'm so glad the Knicks cut Ledo.

Be careful....optimism is not allowed.....around here!

But I agree. Melo reads all the negative criticism and Im sure hes motivated.

So would you agree that if I become more of a hater, my additional hate will motivate Anthony even more, cause him to play even better, and therefore improve our record?

Shouldn't I get some kind of financial renumeration for doing this if it leads the Knicks to some success in the playoffs?

Just a thought.

Not sure but I love the quote from Jackson in the Phil Files that you just posted. Have to think that he looked into Melo's ethics before he offered the deal he did no?

Real clever, buddy, I think Phil was still naive when he signed Melo. Its been a growth process for him. You also had the Dolan factor.

Remember my narrative, though- Anthony being injured and needing an operation, but still wanting to continue playing so he could be in the All Star Game, is the transformative "event" for Phil.

You keep saying the Dolan factor in Melo's signing..Phil said that Dolan left it up to him to decide whether or not to sign Melo..Maybe you believe Phil is lying??

I think Phil knows how to play the game. Organizational politics sometimes trump he truth...not the time for him to instigate a public power struggle with Dolan. I assume Phil's read Sun Tzu's The Art of War- you have to pick your battles.

The big internal battle will come if Anthony doesn't totally buy into the system this year and puts up his normal numbers but the team flounders and there is some dissension in the locker room.

Can he actually live with an 18/8/5 line, slightly fewer minutes, and no All Star Game if the team is winning and actually makes the playoffs?

Will be an interesting season.

Is this based on what you think should happen or what has happened with a Phil Jackson team?? Because MJ shot attempts didn't change with Phil Jackson and Kobe's shot attempts increased under Phil Jackson..MJ assist per game went down under Phil...Have you seen the triangle work without an ISO player??

As is frequently the case, you don't give me an answer to my question and don't see the concept I'm throwing out at you. It is all about what a player is willing to do for a team in order for it to be successful.

All teams need a good ISO player or two- Jackson has admitted this, and had battles with Kobe- but Kobe and Jordan are/were also all-around players in almost every aspect of the game and on both sides of the court. They were also leaders, fierce competitors, had unlimited motors, and had an ability to rise to the occasion on defense or offense. I doubt if Anthony would even start on those Bull's teams, to be honest.

By the way- think the emergence of Pippen, and more guys touching the ball might have accounted for Jordan's assist stats going down a bit...just a thought.

Oh...that's right, Jordan and Kobe also have one other thing in common- they never won a title without Jackson as their coach-NO?

No, it's a business...It's all about what they can do for each other to bring success to both the team first, then the individual...

Where you and I often disagree is on your own drawn up plans...The scenarios/concepts you throw at me usually does not relate to the facts on the ground..It's usually some far fetched idea you come up with...So you want me to leave the real world and enter upon this make believe world and make decisions based on that which you feel should be facts or are a possibility then later make factual conclusions...For example, You wanted me to imagine a scenario where Melo would further hurt himself if he played in the all star game and make decisions based on that..Well the doctors said he would not hurt himself if he continued to play..Why draw up any other scenario after knowing the facts??? Another example is where you hope Melo would be happy next year with his point total dropping by 10 pts per game??..Where are u getting these numbers???.Clearly not based on any other team Phil Jackson has coached...Just you own idea of what YOU think is a good idea...You are claiming resigning Melo was Dolan's idea not Phil's..When Phil himself said it was his choice..You created your own imaginary turning point, the all star game where Phil no longer wants him on the team..Where are you getting this info??..And you are running with it...I can't roll like that...I have no time to explore in my imagination that which is not real..It has to be real or you lose me...Sorry...

you idiot if he had shut himself down earlier he would be further along in his rehab than he is, and would have a better chance to get in better shape as well. and scoring as much and taking as many shots as jordan and even jordan lite means you equate melo with those two. are you serious?? and of course dolan meddled with this latest contract... who else would throw in a no-trade???

unreal stinkage thinkage

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Yes. The 2 peat Lakers. Pau, Bynum, Odom all would like a word with you. Even Artest bailing out Kobe's worst playoff game in Game 7 against Boston.

Without those guys touches, Kobe doesn't have his last 2 rings.

Are you talking about the two playoff series where Kobe averaged 29 pts and 30 pts per???..5+ rebs, 5+ assist???..Those playoff series??..You mean the two playoff series the Kobe was Finals MVP???

in the orlando series he shot 52.7TS%-- not good

58-135 for 43% from the field-- not good

.93:1 usage:assist ratio is actually great... albeit against an inferior finalist-- garnett was injured

in the celtics series he shot 53.3TS%-- not good

10-22
8-20
10-29
10-22
13-27
9-19
6-24 in the game where the celtics had lost perkins in game 6
60-163 for 36% from the field-- horrible!

1.56:1 usage:assist ratio the return of the black garter snake who shrinks under real pressure

So when you win the Finals, A win is still not a win??

in the conference finals a win is win... BUT they can be qualified.

the celtics destroyed the lakers in 2008 and paul "the truth" pierce won mvp of the finals, guarding bryant the lion's share of the time. both teams were at full force and healthy. here a win is a win, solid and genuine.

orlando had NO business being in the finals but hooray for bryant and his POS 43% FG%. the magic were overmatched. here a win is a win but wow was it a cheap win.

by the way here are the fg/fga against orlando:

16-34
10-22
11-25
11-31
http://10-23
58-135

celtics lost perkins in game 6 of that series otherwise the celtics win that series too and poor wittle bwack mamba is stuck on 4. here a win is a win but just not very valuable.

LeBron must have been disappointing in the Finals huh..TS% 47.7..USG 39..He didn't make Shump and JR better..

he missed love and irving a little bit. both were lost before the finals. irving should not have played at all-- terrible strategy by the cavs.

smith is a loser and shumpert is a 7th man in the nba.

i am sure there are a few who relish me making mincemeat of you again. never gets old i guess.

Melo were playing with those losers, maybe Melo too was/is missing two all stars...

apples to apples please. lebron is somewhere between 2nd and 3rd rate his entire career. like someone said a few weeks ago, he's like a chick whose a 6 who has friends who are 9s and 10s and he thinks he's a 9 or a 10.

as proof of his being overpaid and overrated he will not sniff a title, meaning being competitive in a game 6 of a conference finals-- until he comes off the bench as a sixth man. remember what i have predicted.

You mean like your Knicks 7th seed prediction??

through the lens of "does this look like a legitimate playoff team" they played like a seventh seed in the regular-season, ended up with a misleading 54-28 record and an undeserved second seed, were challenged mightily by the actual 7th-seeded celtics and then were summarily spanked, destroyed, embarrassed, snuffed, exposed by the 3rd-seeded pacers.

carmelo anthony will not sniff a title as a starter in new york, meaning playing in a competitive game six of the conference finals. and if he is a starter it will be as a third option in the offense.

An upgrade from the 6th man role..No doubt the effects of his latest workout video...

“The first thing I do every day is I wake up and spend my mornings in the gym,” said Anthony, who is entering the second year of a five-year contract with the Knicks. “That goes without saying. Basketball will always be my No. 1 priority.”

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ChuckBuck wrote:Yes. The 2 peat Lakers. Pau, Bynum, Odom all would like a word with you. Even Artest bailing out Kobe's worst playoff game in Game 7 against Boston.

Without those guys touches, Kobe doesn't have his last 2 rings.

Are you talking about the two playoff series where Kobe averaged 29 pts and 30 pts per???..5+ rebs, 5+ assist???..Those playoff series??..You mean the two playoff series the Kobe was Finals MVP???

in the orlando series he shot 52.7TS%-- not good

58-135 for 43% from the field-- not good

.93:1 usage:assist ratio is actually great... albeit against an inferior finalist-- garnett was injured

in the celtics series he shot 53.3TS%-- not good

10-22
8-20
10-29
10-22
13-27
9-19
6-24 in the game where the celtics had lost perkins in game 6
60-163 for 36% from the field-- horrible!

1.56:1 usage:assist ratio the return of the black garter snake who shrinks under real pressure

So when you win the Finals, A win is still not a win??

in the conference finals a win is win... BUT they can be qualified.

the celtics destroyed the lakers in 2008 and paul "the truth" pierce won mvp of the finals, guarding bryant the lion's share of the time. both teams were at full force and healthy. here a win is a win, solid and genuine.

orlando had NO business being in the finals but hooray for bryant and his POS 43% FG%. the magic were overmatched. here a win is a win but wow was it a cheap win.

by the way here are the fg/fga against orlando:

16-34
10-22
11-25
11-31
http://10-23
58-135

celtics lost perkins in game 6 of that series otherwise the celtics win that series too and poor wittle bwack mamba is stuck on 4. here a win is a win but just not very valuable.

LeBron must have been disappointing in the Finals huh..TS% 47.7..USG 39..He didn't make Shump and JR better..

he missed love and irving a little bit. both were lost before the finals. irving should not have played at all-- terrible strategy by the cavs.

smith is a loser and shumpert is a 7th man in the nba.

i am sure there are a few who relish me making mincemeat of you again. never gets old i guess.

Melo were playing with those losers, maybe Melo too was/is missing two all stars...

apples to apples please. lebron is somewhere between 2nd and 3rd rate his entire career. like someone said a few weeks ago, he's like a chick whose a 6 who has friends who are 9s and 10s and he thinks he's a 9 or a 10.

as proof of his being overpaid and overrated he will not sniff a title, meaning being competitive in a game 6 of a conference finals-- until he comes off the bench as a sixth man. remember what i have predicted.

You mean like your Knicks 7th seed prediction??

through the lens of "does this look like a legitimate playoff team" they played like a seventh seed in the regular-season, ended up with a misleading 54-28 record and an undeserved second seed, were challenged mightily by the actual 7th-seeded celtics and then were summarily spanked, destroyed, embarrassed, snuffed, exposed by the 3rd-seeded pacers.

carmelo anthony will not sniff a title as a starter in new york, meaning playing in a competitive game six of the conference finals. and if he is a starter it will be as a third option in the offense.

An upgrade from the 6th man role..No doubt the effects of his latest workout video...

“The first thing I do every day is I wake up and spend my mornings in the gym,” said Anthony, who is entering the second year of a five-year contract with the Knicks. “That goes without saying. Basketball will always be my No. 1 priority.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/62235/carmelo-rehab-is-going-very-very-well

sounds like some form of a nitwit's damage control. how predictably blithesome