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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
7/30/2015 6:59 PM
knickscity wrote:nixluva wrote:knickscity wrote:He was an ok signing, hopefully the team doesnt rely on him to be the defensive anchor like Tyson was. That wears a player down really fast.I like that he gets a good chunk of his rebounds on the offensive glass. RoLo is a very good defender. He's good against the PnR. He's not the best rim protector in the league but he's one of the best. Look at his defensive differential near the basket. Last year his numbers were down during a season where he was injured, but the previous season you can see what he's capable of when healthy. 2013-14 RoLo boxes out his man very well and it opens up rebounding for the other Knicks if he's not able to get it. The Blazers were consistently dismissed as true contenders last season because of their mediocre defense, but Robin Lopez did absolutely all he could on that end to change the narrative. Portland finished 16th in the league with a defensive rating of 104.7 (points allowed per 100 possessions), the third worst among playoff teams behind the Dallas Mavericks and the Brooklyn Nets. They were much better, however, with Lopez on the floor (103.7, which would have finished 13th comparatively) than when he was off (106.6, 24th). https://www.numberfire.com/nba/news/3021/why-we-should-stop-underrating-robin-lopez |
tj23
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8/1/2015 3:43 AM
He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious
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yellowboy90
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8/1/2015 4:46 AM LAST EDITED: 8/1/2015 4:51 AM
tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/07/06/robin-lopez-and-rebound-value/#fnref-5885-4 Robin Lopez and Rebound Value |
holfresh
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8/1/2015 11:12 AM LAST EDITED: 8/1/2015 11:22 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious But wouldn't you want a player who is apt to grab more free rebounds than one who doesn't..This may also point to activity level of the individual..This stat is also telling me Lopez is rebounding on Tristan Thompson's level, minus the free rebounds, which is a tough sell... |
nixluva
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8/1/2015 11:50 AM
holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious RoLo isn't quite the low motor player that his brother is. Tho both Lopez bros aren't exactly chasing down rebounds. They do a great job of holding off their closest opponent and grabbing the rebound. We're gonna need our other guys to crash the boards as well. This isn't a situation where we can have one guy trying to board. |
yellowboy90
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8/1/2015 12:13 PM
holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious It depends, I think every player should be examined individually and that's what all these advance data should be used for. What sold me on Lopez last year was the increase in Aldrige rebounds. Then I looked and saw that the ntire starting 4 around him rebounds increased once he got there. Also, if you look at Ro Lo's off. rebs it indicates that he is a hustle player similar to Thompson or Varied he just plays better defense and occupies space in the lane giving his teammates opportunities for rebounds. |
Bonn1997
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8/1/2015 12:33 PM
holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious I'd think the number of contested rebounds the player is grabbing is a much better measure of energy and uncontested rebounds are more about who is randomly deferring to who. With a little extra work, I calculated the number of contested rebounds per 36 for each of these players.
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CrushAlot
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8/1/2015 12:46 PM
Thanks Nix. Great article.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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holfresh
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8/1/2015 12:55 PM LAST EDITED: 8/1/2015 12:56 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious My question is why are others more capable of grabbing more uncontested rebounds than you are??..What is that saying about you?? |
holfresh
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8/1/2015 12:58 PM LAST EDITED: 8/1/2015 1:06 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious There could be many reasons for that..That stat didn't hold true in the playoffs..Aldridge was able to put up good rebounding numbers while Lopez played limited minutes..One game Aldridge had 14 boards while Lopez played 19 mins...Even if you are aiding other player's rebound numbers, if you aren't contributing on the offensive end, at 7 foot you must rebound... |
nixluva
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8/1/2015 3:15 PM
holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious RoLo will have a somewhat different role here in NY than he did in Portland. You seem to be really stuck on last season when it was a down year for RoLo due in part to his broken hand. The previous season he did much better. I think it's possible for RoLo to improve on his production slightly on both ends. More Shots in the paint and more touches overall in this system. |
Bonn1997
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8/1/2015 3:15 PM
holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious Does it really matter? These are rebounds that by definition the other team has no chance of getting. And if you're trying to infer whether a player is lazy or has a poor motor, the number of uncontested rebounds he gets is probably the worst way to do it. |
holfresh
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8/1/2015 4:17 PM LAST EDITED: 8/1/2015 4:21 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tj23 wrote:He better box out well because his defensive rebounding numbers are atrocious Sure it matters...I really don't trust the per 36 min stat..Every minute of a basketball game isn't equal..Your performance in the first 5 mins of a game doesn't equal the performance of the 30th-35th min...There may be a physical reason coaches don't play a certain player those extended minutes.. |