The infraction was small and did not influence the outcome of the game but the integrity of the game and the office of the commish need be in place and respected by the owners.
While I disagree with how Goodell has handled domestic violence issues (not the act, just the floating moral compass based on public reaction) I have to agree that the line has to be drawn in the sand.

Darn Seahawks!!!! Pats losing superbowl would have been perfect!!!

IN the long run Brady still goes down in history as Montana like and Pats will be super hated but really the league is way too strong. Brady need just take his lumps and move on already.
I lost some respect for Kraft on this even more than Brady. Really, dude could have said its a pretty common thing and in the spirit of winning went to far on this. Pay the fine. Likely would have gotton a game, maybe two.

Move on...............

DJMUSIC wrote:

Nalod wrote:Saw Kraft and really was not impressed with his logic. Basically when a suspension is reduced its when the player shows remorese and cooperates. IN this case neither was the case.

The infraction was small and did not influence the outcome of the game but the integrity of the game and the office of the commish need be in place and respected by the owners.
While I disagree with how Goodell has handled domestic violence issues (not the act, just the floating moral compass based on public reaction) I have to agree that the line has to be drawn in the sand.

Darn Seahawks!!!! Pats losing superbowl would have been perfect!!!

IN the long run Brady still goes down in history as Montana like and Pats will be super hated but really the league is way too strong. Brady need just take his lumps and move on already.
I lost some respect for Kraft on this even more than Brady. Really, dude could have said its a pretty common thing and in the spirit of winning went to far on this. Pay the fine. Likely would have gotton a game, maybe two.

Move on...............

Well said Nalod, 150% agreed

They cite now Brady, Pats may fight
It again after 2015,2016 season

Arrogance by these patriots

I think once they dug their heels in they find it hard to even adjust. They should just be like "Phuch, we just won the superbowl and lets just enjoy it!!!"

They are just taking themselves too seriously on the issue. Its like Nixon did not need to break in and find incriminating information, he won the election on a land slide. ITs the cover up that wigs everyone out. Pats destroyed the Colts and PSI had no play in the game. They moved on and won the superbowl with no objection. These dumb asses keep making it an issue when nobody really cares.

Eli still owns them. Thats all that counts!

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL was willing to drop the suspension by “at least 50 percent” if Brady: (1) admitted to having knowledge of whatever John Jastremski and Jim McNally were doing to the footballs; (2) admitted to failing to cooperate with the Ted Wells investigation; and (3) apologized.

It’s believed that Brady’s suspension would have been dropped at least to two games, with the possibility of dropping it to one if he were sufficiently persuasive and profuse in his acceptance of guilt.

Arrogance might be involved here, but Brady also has to keep up the goody-good rep he has with most people. Its a legacy issue at this point.

Seems that he might take his appeal as far as it can go.

Could get even more messy...

WaltLongmire wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't understand this deflate gate thing at all. I'm still trying get my head around why they use different footballs for each team.

Brady and P. Manning spoke for all quarterbacks around 2006 when they pushed to allow QBs to be able to "condition" their own footballs in the days before games. Individual QBs have different preferences for the ball they want to use, and this allowance recognized this.

They would still be inspected and air-checked, but it allowed QBs to work on the balls like a pitcher works on a new baseball. Pretty sure the umpires in a baseball game also work on the new baseballs before a game.

Interesting to note that since 2006 the Pats have had the best fumble rate of any team, and one of the underreported issues is that running backs also prefer a deflated ball. In the cold NE climate a slightly deflated ball would be a benefit to a QB and running backs.

If that is the case than Brady is innocent of any wrong doing. The refs should have a feel for the ball and they fail to determine the difference between an improperly inflated ball and a properly inflated ball.

If you are allowing QBs to work a football before a game then they entire system needs to be changed.

Vmart wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't understand this deflate gate thing at all. I'm still trying get my head around why they use different footballs for each team.

Brady and P. Manning spoke for all quarterbacks around 2006 when they pushed to allow QBs to be able to "condition" their own footballs in the days before games. Individual QBs have different preferences for the ball they want to use, and this allowance recognized this.

They would still be inspected and air-checked, but it allowed QBs to work on the balls like a pitcher works on a new baseball. Pretty sure the umpires in a baseball game also work on the new baseballs before a game.

Interesting to note that since 2006 the Pats have had the best fumble rate of any team, and one of the underreported issues is that running backs also prefer a deflated ball. In the cold NE climate a slightly deflated ball would be a benefit to a QB and running backs.

If that is the case than Brady is innocent of any wrong doing. The refs should have a feel for the ball and they fail to determine the difference between an improperly inflated ball and a properly inflated ball.

If you are allowing QBs to work a football before a game then they entire system needs to be changed.

Brady conveniently eliminated the cell phone that had texts he had sent to the equipment guys, one of who was referred to as the "deflator."

Very probably that Brady and Bill B both knew about what was going on, and you would think that the offensive players who handled the balls might have had some idea, too. If Belichick had been linked to the air issue he would have been out of football...this was based on the Spygate ruling many years ago.

The system might not be the greatest, but there is no doubt in my mind that Brady had involvement in what went on.

Vmart wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't understand this deflate gate thing at all. I'm still trying get my head around why they use different footballs for each team.

Brady and P. Manning spoke for all quarterbacks around 2006 when they pushed to allow QBs to be able to "condition" their own footballs in the days before games. Individual QBs have different preferences for the ball they want to use, and this allowance recognized this.

They would still be inspected and air-checked, but it allowed QBs to work on the balls like a pitcher works on a new baseball. Pretty sure the umpires in a baseball game also work on the new baseballs before a game.

Interesting to note that since 2006 the Pats have had the best fumble rate of any team, and one of the underreported issues is that running backs also prefer a deflated ball. In the cold NE climate a slightly deflated ball would be a benefit to a QB and running backs.

If that is the case than Brady is innocent of any wrong doing. The refs should have a feel for the ball and they fail to determine the difference between an improperly inflated ball and a properly inflated ball.

If you are allowing QBs to work a football before a game then they entire system needs to be changed.

Yea I'm sure other teams were doing it. The Pats are repeat offenders when it comes to cheating and the NFL was way to easy on them after spy gate. NFL was extremely hard on the Saints. You have to be consistent. You can't let the Pats getting with this stuff. The Patsies and all their crying brings a huge smile to my face