martin wrote:Super low BBIQ, don't see it happening.

I didn't know he was not a smart player. I just assumed he was OK BB IQ wise. From the brief moments i've seen him he seems to have good skills, but I can't say that i've focused on him. He may still be a decent option even if he's not the highest BB IQ guy. Sometimes just having the brute force and size off the bench is better than nothing. That said he may not be high on Phil's list given he really wants players that can fully grasp the offense and think the game.

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:Super low BBIQ, don't see it happening.

We Signed derricks williams didn't we?

DW signed for high upside potential. Also for multi-position player and scorer.

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:Super low BBIQ, don't see it happening.

We Signed derricks williams didn't we?

DW signed for high upside potential. Also for multi-position player and scorer.

Also people are really underestimating Phil's vision for how certain players can fit into the style of play. DWill can be successful without possessing the ball for any significant amount of time. He's a catch and shoot or catch and finish player and he's really great at scoring around the basket even without much space. Phil wants penetration not just from guards but bigs as well and DWill can do that. In a motion offense you want attacking bigs. All those cuts in this offense can be finishes when you have a player who is powerful and athletic enough to get to the hole with regularity.

Just watch how he lurks around the basket, runs, slashes and finishes. No plays! Just moving without the ball! That's actually more important than people realize. We lacked that kind of easy scoring. He also shows the ability to hit the corner 3. With a bit more definition to his role he could really be good in this offense.

nixluva wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:Super low BBIQ, don't see it happening.

We Signed derricks williams didn't we?

DW signed for high upside potential. Also for multi-position player and scorer.

Also people are really underestimating Phil's vision for how certain players can fit into the style of play. DWill can be successful without possessing the ball for any significant amount of time. He's a catch and shoot or catch and finish player and he's really great at scoring around the basket even without much space. Phil wants penetration not just from guards but bigs as well and DWill can do that. In a motion offense you want attacking bigs. All those cuts in this offense can be finishes when you have a player who is powerful and athletic enough to get to the hole with regularity.

Just watch how he lurks around the basket, runs, slashes and finishes. No plays! Just moving without the ball! That's actually more important than people realize. We lacked that kind of easy scoring. He also shows the ability to hit the corner 3. With a bit more definition to his role he could really be good in this offense.

However

He can score. And the one thing I will give Phil credit for is DW is in a position to succeed here. If he can give Allan Houston type efforts on defense and the boards he will be OK, because he's a good offensive player and this roster lacks guys who can go get you buckets. We are asking him bring the thing he's best at.. so I like that.. lets see what you got. Go prove Karl wrong. Go earn yourself big bucks. Fingers crossed... Im not terribly optimistic about the DW signing. My guess is its a flop. He's no Al Harrington which would be great. He's Rodney White (sorry Briggs )

fishmike wrote:

nixluva wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:Super low BBIQ, don't see it happening.

We Signed derricks williams didn't we?

DW signed for high upside potential. Also for multi-position player and scorer.

Also people are really underestimating Phil's vision for how certain players can fit into the style of play. DWill can be successful without possessing the ball for any significant amount of time. He's a catch and shoot or catch and finish player and he's really great at scoring around the basket even without much space. Phil wants penetration not just from guards but bigs as well and DWill can do that. In a motion offense you want attacking bigs. All those cuts in this offense can be finishes when you have a player who is powerful and athletic enough to get to the hole with regularity.

Just watch how he lurks around the basket, runs, slashes and finishes. No plays! Just moving without the ball! That's actually more important than people realize. We lacked that kind of easy scoring. He also shows the ability to hit the corner 3. With a bit more definition to his role he could really be good in this offense.

No... people are looking at Derrick Williams for what he is... a dismal failure as top 5 pick. Seriously can you talk hoops without using highlight videos? DW has been terrible. Allergic to defense and rebounding, and gets his on offense. He has been a very bad NBA player.

However

He can score. And the one thing I will give Phil credit for is DW is in a position to succeed here. If he can give Allan Houston type efforts on defense and the boards he will be OK, because he's a good offensive player and this roster lacks guys who can go get you buckets. We are asking him bring the thing he's best at.. so I like that.. lets see what you got. Go prove Karl wrong. Go earn yourself big bucks. Fingers crossed... Im not terribly optimistic about the DW signing. My guess is its a flop. He's no Al Harrington which would be great. He's Rodney White (sorry Briggs )

The particular part of DWill's game that Phil is looking to utilize is what he actually does best but that might make him less effective in other systems. Phil thinks about those things which most fans do not. The same way he had a hunch about Shved when most fans couldn't see why he would pick him up. DWill is great at moving without the ball and attacking the basket which is something we need, since this is a ball and player motion offense. We don't need guys holding the ball too long. DWill literally doesn't possess the ball for much time at all, also a very good thing in this offense. He should have a more defined role doing what he's good at doing already. Hopefully he can also do the other things like Defend and Rebound.

“They want me to play a little bit of everything — come off pick and rolls, set picks, pick and pop, stretch the floor,’’ Williams said. “Phil already told me he really wants me to be everywhere on the court. Not just in the corner or elbow — being able to do multiple things at one time, doing a little bit of everything.’’
Perhaps Williams impressed Jackson and Fisher with his triangle know-how. Williams said he already knows “eight cuts’’ from watching the Lakers in his boyhood.