I'll take Amir Johnson, Gerald Wallace, + filler and 3 first round picks for Melo....but Melo probably says no.

Not sure where he would be happy that can afford his contract in a trade.

gunsnewing wrote:haha one can dream

i don't think it's a dream anymore. once jackson changed realized no melocentric team can win a title, once the ridiculous contract was granted and melo's priorities were made clear, what with branding and all that comes with it, jackson made a sea change and has created a new narrative.

the countdown has begun!

dk7th wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:haha one can dream

i don't think it's a dream anymore. once jackson changed realized no melocentric team can win a title, once the ridiculous contract was granted and melo's priorities were made clear, what with branding and all that comes with it, jackson made a sea change and has created a new narrative.

the countdown has begun!

yeah i can see melo headed to the rebuilding laker or cetlic, that makes all the sense in the world

I just think Melo won't ask for a trade if the Team is competitive. I don't see this roster being close to bad enough to make a trade request valid. The media is convinced this team can't compete. They don't really have a rationale for that based on anything but a bias. No big names to these media guys means a bad team. They aren't really examining the talent, fit or construction of the roster.

nixluva wrote:These kind of articles are just so predictable. However they make no sense to me. What do these media guys think Melo was expecting this summer? There was no scenario where the Knicks could add stars and still fill all the holes in roster. This wasn't a ready made situation like Boston where you could just add a KG and Allen and immediately have a finals team.

I just think Melo won't ask for a trade if the Team is competitive. I don't see this roster being close to bad enough to make a trade request valid. The media is convinced this team can't compete. They don't really have a rationale for that based on anything but a bias. No big names to these media guys means a bad team. They aren't really examining the talent, fit or construction of the roster.

i see the knicks winning between 29-38 games so the notion of "competitive" is entirely subjective.

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:These kind of articles are just so predictable. However they make no sense to me. What do these media guys think Melo was expecting this summer? There was no scenario where the Knicks could add stars and still fill all the holes in roster. This wasn't a ready made situation like Boston where you could just add a KG and Allen and immediately have a finals team.

I just think Melo won't ask for a trade if the Team is competitive. I don't see this roster being close to bad enough to make a trade request valid. The media is convinced this team can't compete. They don't really have a rationale for that based on anything but a bias. No big names to these media guys means a bad team. They aren't really examining the talent, fit or construction of the roster.

i see the knicks winning between 29-38 games so the notion of "competitive" is entirely subjective.

There were a lot of doubters before the 54 win season too. Sometimes things just click. It's about how the parts all come together. I don't believe these media guys have even put in the level of examination that you did when trying to predict what this team might be capable of. I bet you did way more evaluation of the roster than most of these media guys.

IMO this year's team should be able to function at a much more competitive level. We have some more reliable 2 way players on this roster. This team won't be a walkover every night. This is a team full of more mentally and physically tough players. I just think this team has much more fight than last year based on the character of the players and not just wishful thinking. These players don't have a losers mentality. I expect these players to be pumped to be in NY in a new situation.

Bucher pointed out that Anthony, although he hasn't asked formally, would not want to be part of a long rebuild at this point of his career, and thus might seek a way out of the Big Apple.

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:These kind of articles are just so predictable. However they make no sense to me. What do these media guys think Melo was expecting this summer? There was no scenario where the Knicks could add stars and still fill all the holes in roster. This wasn't a ready made situation like Boston where you could just add a KG and Allen and immediately have a finals team.

I just think Melo won't ask for a trade if the Team is competitive. I don't see this roster being close to bad enough to make a trade request valid. The media is convinced this team can't compete. They don't really have a rationale for that based on anything but a bias. No big names to these media guys means a bad team. They aren't really examining the talent, fit or construction of the roster.

i see the knicks winning between 29-38 games so the notion of "competitive" is entirely subjective.

There were a lot of doubters before the 54 win season too. Sometimes things just click. It's about how the parts all come together. I don't believe these media guys have even put in the level of examination that you did when trying to predict what this team might be capable of. I bet you did way more evaluation of the roster than most of these media guys.

IMO this year's team should be able to function at a much more competitive level. We have some more reliable 2 way players on this roster. This team won't be a walkover every night. This is a team full of more mentally and physically tough players. I just think this team has much more fight than last year based on the character of the players and not just wishful thinking. These players don't have a losers mentality. I expect these players to be pumped to be in NY in a new situation.

Lots of optimists too before the 17 and two 23 win seasons. Sometimes things just click, and I hope you're right, but sometimes they don't.