BRIGGS wrote:3 years 10mm for a guy who was pick 33 last year

although HOU could have matched, i would've preferred making KJ an offer at 3 yrs/$10 m instead of splurging 2 yrs/$10m for derrick williams.

There should be more KJ McDaniels, righting back, and less of Hinkie's 4year deals which holds the players hostage...

Yeah, while the agents that sign 4year deals with 1st year partial guaranteed at the minimum, especially with Philly
KJ McDaniels agent got him out of Philly and in to a contender and got payed for not playing, he has earned his money for him

Philly has stockpiled many 4year players that were 2nd rounders and undrafted talents with little to 0 guarantees
While Patrick Beverely had to go overseas then sign a 3year unguaranteed deal at the minimum, while McDaniels will make more than 3x's Beverely's contract for their first 3/4years
Morey and his apprentice abuse these young talents, you could say they are smart, and they are scums at the same time
Beverely worked hard for his spot, got injured, and if it was severe, there goes his entire career without a decent contract by NBA standards..

Player Unions and other team owners should make some complaints
The 4year deals should be changed to regulate it somehow, where rookie players do not get low balled for much of their career
Where you cannot have a bunch of Robert Covingtons etc for so many years, at least make more guaranteed money on each year except final year vs 0 guarantee or partial guaratneed for 1st year

Just look at Phillys entire roster, abusing the system greatly
I hope NO ONE deals with Philly, they end up with 70 draft picks but 0 roster spots to use them the next couple of years...
Make them waive players

These Boston teams with Ainge/Rich Carlise/Bird/McHale/Twovles that help each other and Morey/Hinkie all form alliances that help each other out
Spur's and Atlanta *though wasn't nearly as bad with Splitter*

CrushAlot wrote:^^^Hinkie is being investigated for his manipulation of the cap by the players association. I think the biggest thing is that he makes a trade every year at the deadline so that the Sixers don't have to pay the players the difference for how far below the cap the Sixers are.

Agents will steer people away from him, as they probably are already.

Will be interesting to see what he does if he has to pay a max salary at some point.

RonRon wrote:Player Unions and other team owners should make some complaints....

This is the aftermath of what the NBAPA negotiated with the owners.

The major "participants" in the labor negotiations for the players side, besides the agents, lawyers and formerly Billy Hunter, were VETERAN NBA PLAYERS. Like any collective bargaining, the veterans are apt to give up ROOKIE COMPENSATION AND RIGHTS very easily. It means more money for VETERANS. You saw how quickly the NFLPA was open to changing the system so that rookies at the top of the first round were not making Top 3 positional money in salary.

THIS IS THE SYSTEM THEY CHOSE, VOTED ON AND WANTED.

The core of veterans negotiating don't care about rookies, they aren't rookies anymore. They care about pension plans, limits to practices and overall compensation after being vested by the league.

When you have a STAT with an albatross contract, those four years out of the five where he is not playing up to production level to justify the market value of his contract, where do you think that money comes from? The owners cannot just take money from STAT and give it to Patrick Beverley.

Under a widespread use of non guaranteed contracts, with signing bonuses, like the NFL, the Knicks could cut a STAT ( not get off 100 percent since the signing bonus would be prorated across the rest of the years of the contract against the cap) and then compete for a Beverley, thus increasing his market and getting him paid. Also in an NFL type system, Beverley would be a free agent faster and have more range to increase his own earning power sooner, as long as he is productive.

Sadly a lot of guys here want to just repeat the media induced rhetoric by a few veteran NBA players instead of seeing that giving a STAT or any NBA player a rock solid guaranteed deal no matter what is anti competitive but also it ensures that the best players are not likely to always get the best return in term of contracts.

In the NFL model, you are the best, you get paid like the best. If you are not, you don't. Instant market correction. If a player has more leverage, they can hold out. If they don't, their hold outs fail.

If you have top heavy salaries, sorry but you need cheap disposable labor to balance out the rosters. Not everyone can get paid like STAT did.

The non guaranteed contract and hard cap system is the most ideal for fans, for competitiveness and for players getting paid to market value with built in self correction. The NBA doesn't have it now because the talent pool is so very narrow against the total population.

THIS IS THE SYSTEM THEY WANTED AND CHOSE AND VOTED ON, YES EVEN THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES.

What do they say in True Detective? - You Get The World You Deserve

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:Meanwhile we still don't have a back u guard
pg: Calderon grant Galloway
Sg.:afflalo (nobody) Ledo
No mcdaniel
No shved
John Jenkins is the only NBA PROVEN guard left

That's cause you didn't arrange it correctly

pg: Calderon grant
Sg.:afflalo Galloway Ledo

Ah my mistake.