StarksEwing1 wrote:Before phil got here the knicks seemed to throw away every pick they had for nearly 15 years. However phil knows that in order to have sustainable success you need picks. Sure he had had some hiccups as GM mainly the tyson trade but what i like most is that the draft is just as important as free agency. The tim hardaway trade was a hell of a trade for us. I have a feeling phil will find his way into the draft next year hopefully getting a first rounder we lost from grunwald

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Before phil got here the knicks seemed to throw away every pick they had for nearly 15 years. However phil knows that in order to have sustainable success you need picks. Sure he had had some hiccups as GM mainly the tyson trade but what i like most is that the draft is just as important as free agency. The tim hardaway trade was a hell of a trade for us. I have a feeling phil will find his way into the draft next year hopefully getting a first rounder we lost from grunwald

I agree. Grunwald only traded one first round pick while he was in NY but it was for Bargs.

It's gonna hurt but can't run a team on fear.

TPercy wrote:Phil is the president.

Yes that is an important distinction. It actually is better than we have Phil in that role since he can stand back from the day to day GM work and stay focused and clear headed about everything going on with the franchise. I think it's a plus to have Phil stay out of the day to day discourse with other GM's. Phil is sticking with his strengths. He's evaluating how the team functions as a whole and what needs to be done to improve that.

He did the right thing in the draft over the last 2 seasons. Also did a nice job with UDFA's. We have some nice young talent in development. I suspect that he eventually make a deal to get us a 2016 pick. His M.O. has been to add picks and young talent.

KP
Jerian
Willy
O'Queens
Gallo
Early
DWill
Ledo
Thanasis
Wear
Labeyrie

Not all will work out but he's been taking flyers on young guys.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Before phil got here the knicks seemed to throw away every pick they had for nearly 15 years. However phil knows that in order to have sustainable success you need picks. Sure he had had some hiccups as GM mainly the tyson trade but what i like most is that the draft is just as important as free agency. The tim hardaway trade was a hell of a trade for us. I have a feeling phil will find his way into the draft next year hopefully getting a first rounder we lost from grunwald

I agree. Grunwald only traded one first round pick while he was in NY but it was for Bargs.

grunwald wasnt terrible BUT that one move was brutal especially since toronto was going to release him

I had heard Grunwald didn't want to make that trade. CAA did. Grunwald walked after CAA and Dolan forced the trade on him.

crzymdups wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Before phil got here the knicks seemed to throw away every pick they had for nearly 15 years. However phil knows that in order to have sustainable success you need picks. Sure he had had some hiccups as GM mainly the tyson trade but what i like most is that the draft is just as important as free agency. The tim hardaway trade was a hell of a trade for us. I have a feeling phil will find his way into the draft next year hopefully getting a first rounder we lost from grunwald

I agree. Grunwald only traded one first round pick while he was in NY but it was for Bargs.

grunwald wasnt terrible BUT that one move was brutal especially since toronto was going to release him

I had heard Grunwald didn't want to make that trade. CAA did. Grunwald walked after CAA and Dolan forced the trade on him.

knicks1248 wrote:dude the more and more i look at the draft (never really paid attn because we never really had reason to) i realize there maybe 12 quality starters in the entire draft every yr, more then 50% are out of the league in 4 to 5 yrs, 25% never become starters.

What other choice is there?

Last offseason, someone said, several people said, the NBA Draft is a total crapshoot.

And I said back then, Ok, it is a crapshoot, but how else can you build a team in the modern NBA?

It's virtually impossible to build a team through free agency and trades alone. Occasionally, if you can get two Top 5 players in the same place, you can make a serious run, but how often does that happen?

martin wrote:

JamesLin wrote:Apparently NOT. We will not be able to keep our draft picks next year because of the huge mediocre FA signings.

What does this even mean?

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Before phil got here the knicks seemed to throw away every pick they had for nearly 15 years. However phil knows that in order to have sustainable success you need picks. Sure he had had some hiccups as GM mainly the tyson trade but what i like most is that the draft is just as important as free agency. The tim hardaway trade was a hell of a trade for us. I have a feeling phil will find his way into the draft next year hopefully getting a first rounder we lost from grunwald

I agree. Grunwald only traded one first round pick while he was in NY but it was for Bargs.

grunwald wasnt terrible BUT that one move was brutal especially since toronto was going to release him

he was terrible. Bargs and the blillups amnesty were 2 all time killers.