RedmenBaller wrote:dk7th wrote:RedmenBaller wrote:Lopez, O'Quinn, Williams and Aflalo. Everyone is talking about how they are the "right type" of players and will make such a difference. I sure hope so. I would have rather gone with younger less expensive "Right Types" but Stats don't lie. We were all happy to see Bargnani and his 15pt career average go for vets minimum but took on a bigger bust in Williams at 4M. No offer for guys like Smith, Aldmundson, Shved or Aldrich but gave O quinn and his 5 ppg career average 4M. And Lopez gets 14 million average per year but Phil cant offer Monroe, a young big with consistent improvement and higher rated 16.5 Million. I am sure the whole NBA thought Lopez was just as good as Monroe prior to free agency. Aflalo, may be the only one who's number justify signing at 8M, as long as he returns to previous production. Just cant say that we got our moneys worth. Prefer rooting for young ball players that can be sculpted to "Right Types". Dunno, maybe I am just seeing all these young guys trying to make it in summer league that seem to have lots of talent and could be just as good if given the chance.
we are going to win more than 17 games and that's a start. with these 4 alone the knicks will get another 10 wins.
if melo is in shape, does not sulk, plays defense, buys in and does not cause a distraction with infantile disgruntlement then the knicks can get to 32-35 wins.
don't care what happens with calderon but it'd be great to give him the heave-ho after the all-star break.
if all goes well with both kris and grant and a little chemistry is built then 40 wins is a possibility.
most likely the knicks will get 30-40 wins on one of two scenarios:
1) melo is traded and the knicks win closer to 30 games but are in great shape for the summer of 2016
2) melo remains and the knicks win closer to 40 games and get better as a team even as melo continues to break down while building his brand
either way there is nowhere to go but up.
Agree that there is nowhere to go but up. Think we can definitely win close to 30 games. However, do you think we could have won close to 30 games with new draft picks, healthy Melo and some of the guys from last year?
when the phrase "culture change" was put out there it meant last year was going to be painful. but the fascinating way it unfolded, what with the sacrifices that jackson made to accommodate dolan, melo, and still pursue his own vision-- i honestly did not expect it to be so bad, but there you go.
i liked chandler but he was not part of a triangle plan and his friction with melo made it impossible for jackson to do otherwise, even as it was painful to have to take on calderon as a result. because calderon is linked to chandler and felton i see him merely as sunk cost and don't care what happens with him.
getting rid of jr smith weakened melo even as it gave him one less clown to consort with. and with shumpert, well, that was never going to work with carmelo anyway. and by the way, neither of them were going to participate in the triangle anyway, and neither struck me as high-character players.
what we have now is melo isolating himself, predictably, even as jackson continues to bring in mostly high-character players.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
7/12/2015 10:04 PM