I'm very skeptical of the rumors involving Shandon. I don't see why the Bulls would prefer him instead of Kurt.

The only two other suitors for Crawford were apparently either Indiana (Al Harrington) or Miami (Caron Butler+Eddie Jones).

Isiah might actually have the upper hand now, because both of those teams did deals involving the players they would've used to get Crawford.

Also, with the way the market went, Kurt came out very cheap, so Isiah can demand better players in exchange for Crawford. I think it's highly unlikely that Kurt gets traded.

I don't think the 9-player deal will go down. Mutumbo won't be traded, he said if he is, he'll retire, so count him out.

The Bulls don't want Norris, and the Knicks don't need Jeffries with the way Ariza is playing.

I think the best (and easiest) deal for both teams is Anderson, Frank Williams, Trybanski, and Harrington for Crawford and one of their big contracts. They replace their big contract with another big contract who won't bitch and moan, get a promising young PG, and expiring contracts. They won't get a better deal than that, and it's better than losing him for nothing.

After Sweetney's performance in the SL showing he wouldn't be able to start this year, the Knicks wouldn't trade Thomas.

The Bulls, in my opinion, have to get rid of Crawford. They haven't even offered him a contract yet, all they've done is negotiate trades. They don't want him back, and Crawford wants to be a Knick. It'll happen.

I think most of the bad contracts here are cancelling each other out, and then the expiring contracts are equalling what Crawford's getting. So if they'd rather overpay for Shandon Anderson, a guy who won't complain and who will work hard, rather than overpaying for Eddie Robinson, a guy who complained about everything, made fun of the coach and organization, etc., and they get a young PG from Chicago and expiring contracts, that works out to a pretty good deal for them. At this point, I doubt Crawford would re-sign with them.

The sleeper could be Denver. Would they offer Crawford a big deal after possibly striking out with Kmart, Richardson, Manu, and Kobe? That's why I think the deal needs to go down on July 14th, end it the first day contracts can be signed, so nobody can swoop in and steal him (Phoenix could open up some space if QRich is matched, and Denver was mentioned previously)

If the deal is Shandon, Frank, Othella, and Cezary for a re-signed Crawford and JYD, Shandon and JYD cancel out the same year. He might get paid a little more, but they still expire the same year.

So it's basically Frank Williams and two expiring contracts for Jamal Crawford, who the Bulls don't want. They didn't want him last year, they don't want him now (no contract even offered). If he winds up back on the Bulls it'll be like Nomar going back to the Sox and nobody being happy.

As my friend Vaf said, if this deal doesn't go down, would it be that bad? With the way Ariza's playing, who doesn't want to get this guy minutes at the 3? Just move Penny to backup SG and it's not a bad team (permitting Houston doesn't get hurt.)

The way the NBA works, Crawford may not even become a Knick. That wouldn't be a bad thing, nescessarily. Frank and Penny can be very good players for us, with better roles, as opposed to Crawford, who just shoots and scores. Isn't that what we have Allan, Tim Thomas and even Marbury for? Not saying that getting Crawford is bad, but not getting him is not bad either. We need to be creative, grow some balls and find ways to improve our frontcourt. We have lots of talented players in the backcourt, even if Allan is hurt. We barely have any talent at all in our frontcourt, if you don't include Ariza and DerMarr. Time to fix that up. The backcourt shouldn't be the #1 priority, even if it's for the future.

i totally agree.... Yes, we had trouble handling the ball and couldnt get it in marbarys hands during the playoffs but is jamal crawford the only solution? We can hopefully get back a healthy houston and have our big 3 shoot most of the baskets. It would be great if we can add a post player, a shotblocker/rebounder. I dont think sweetney has developed to that post player we need yet but we certainly need to give him minutes this year to develop.

Kurt Thomas probably plays best for us when he plays center. Mainly because he shoots quite well and centers can defend out there. He also lacks the size and athleticism to defend most 4s or 5s.

I also like ariza and barreat. I would like to see a future with them in NY.

I think he can start a little later on during the season however, he wont be a dominating post force. Not unless there is a center like Dampier that can make things easier for him. With our roster of centers, my point is saying he will be a liability because of height and shotblocking ability.

I really like barreat. He looks like a mini earl boykins/travis best.

Trevor looks like he can develop into a gem. His basketball IQ, all round game and athleticsm reminds me of an agressive ginobili but without the shot. I like his game a lot already. He can develop to be good 2 or 3 depending on how his body develops within the next couple years.