RonRon wrote:IMO, Stanley Johnson is the perfect example of how we can not judge what a college player does or doesn't do, putting too much weight in March Madness
All players play under a system and there is no 1 correct way to measure talent and the transition to the NBA, he was one of the players I felt was ready to contribute right away and was under rated with Bobby Portis (who I have as the greatest steal of the entire draft)

The same could be said for Miles Turner, who wasn't the most consistent in Texas, and will continue to get stronger/bigger and can shoot very well for a BIG

Winslow dropped to 10 to a very good team and the perfect situation to go to as a "ROOK" fit his skills/defensive abilities/ and vets to mentor him, however, it is unlikely that he would develop the same way had we drafted him at 4 with the lack of talent on our roster)

He is showing that he has the NBA body that is ready to contribute right away and because he didn't play as well in March, his stock didn't rise, while he has great skills/nba body/versatile/ and could play SG/SF at 6-6 to 6-7, 245pds

I will be surprised to see if there is a better player in this draft than Myles Turner. His face up mid range jumpshot for a 19 year old kid is out of this world. Hes going to be a 20 point scorer in the NBA and he might be the best rim protector in the class as well. Im looking forward to seeing what KP and Towns can do. His college play? It was not up to the pre season standard that was set for him. His running gait was an issue Im sure for almost every team. It was awkward and he did not play very well although his stats were fine EOY. I think it's possible that Texas played him to far from the basket at times(avg 3.1 3's per) and he shared time with 2-3 different bigs. I wrote in a post that I thought he had by far the best -looking pre draft workout video that I saw. I understand that some people dont put weight on it--but I do(you can see how a player moves his shooting stroke the athleticism that I didnt know he had etc.. I mean I had no interst in Myles Turner as Knick during his Texas play)). I even stated in that same post that teams will regret missing on him and that I had hoped the Knicks did a good amount of DD on him. His individual training after school did wonders for him and hes a smart kid. His shot is beautiful and he has great extension on it so its hard to contest. Hes long and while he still might not be the best runner up and down hes more than good enough and seems to get to the right spot on the floor quickly. Playing closer to the rim really helped him. He clearly had a better jumpshot than Kaminsky yet was also the best defensive player on the interior that the SL in Orlando had by a longshot. Hes an NBA rim protector at ONLY 19 years old. I expect he will be a starting player for Indiana right off the bat no questions about it. Im not sure if he plays 5 or 4 yet

H1AND1 wrote:Just saying: There are lists and lists of summer league heroes who never replicate the feats in the NBA. Good luck to Turner, he sure looks like a nice prospect. But until he proves it in the NBA with consistency its hard to annoint him the "best player in the draft".

Right. He was the best looking player in the Orlando SL with Stanley Johnson. I dont think his size 6-11 7-4 span his skilled jumpshot or his rim protection is going anywhere but following him into the NBA. There are only a few NBA players who have the jumpshot Turner has at his size.

BRIGGS wrote:This is EXACTLY how I envision Kristaps playing. Myles has been DOMINANT with his MID RANGE face up game to post showing EXCELLENT touch and footwork--and while he played out on the perimeter at Texas(where he avg more than 3 3's a game) he was able to stay closer to the rim and make plays that he just couldnt at Texas. Out of his 38 shots he ONLY took 3 3's(made 2 of them within a nice rhythm where he just happened to come up court and was set up). Myles did NOT play BEHIND the 3 point line in ANY game. he stayed in the mid range to post. Even though Myles is younger than Kristaps I dont think KP is as physical as Im seeing with Turner nor do I think he has his athletic ability OR his shooting touch in the mid range. (Hopefully Ill be wrong) Stanley Johnson was really great so was Branden Dawson but Myles Turner to me was a super standout and for the Knicks view--Myles--the way he played--is EXACTLY how we should ask Kristaps to play. MID range to post. We DONT want KP taking more than 1 3 point shot we want to emulate what we are seeing here. Mid range face up shooting post moves and opportunistic baskets while being set up by our PGs while being in the post.

wow, pretty impressive

RonRon wrote:IMO, Stanley Johnson is the perfect example of how we can not judge what a college player does or doesn't do, putting too much weight in March Madness
All players play under a system and there is no 1 correct way to measure talent and the transition to the NBA, he was one of the players I felt was ready to contribute right away and was under rated with Bobby Portis (who I have as the greatest steal of the entire draft)

The same could be said for Miles Turner, who wasn't the most consistent in Texas, and will continue to get stronger/bigger and can shoot very well for a BIG

Winslow dropped to 10 to a very good team and the perfect situation to go to as a "ROOK" fit his skills/defensive abilities/ and vets to mentor him, however, it is unlikely that he would develop the same way had we drafted him at 4 with the lack of talent on our roster)

He is showing that he has the NBA body that is ready to contribute right away and because he didn't play as well in March, his stock didn't rise, while he has great skills/nba body/versatile/ and could play SG/SF at 6-6 to 6-7, 245pds

Turner and Stein will be the surprise players in this draft. I think most was high on turner....even phil who tried to trade down for him. But like i said....when picking 4th.....there was almost 10 players who couldve went as high as 4. Turner was one of them.

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BigRedDog wrote:I rather have Myles than Winslow, but both good picks at that point in the draft. I like his size. Did we ever get him in for a try out? He does have some kind of gait/limp going on.

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the real question is what did CLARENCE GAINES think of Myles? did he think he was a once in a lifetime prospect?

What did you think when you saw him?

Don't know what to say, but we did bring him in, and he was also with Porzingis at that pro-day workout,

Sounds like he had a terrible coaching situation, but in the games I saw him play, he did not impress, and I was looking at him because I had read about him and figured he might be on our radar.

Very underwhelming in the Kentucky game, and he seemed to disappear at the end of the season.

He also seemed to work on his running issue after the college season ended. Sounds like he really addressed the issue. Seems like a good kid and he's pretty intelligent.

With a new coach and a solution to his running issue, he probably would have been a top 3/4 pick next season if he had stayed in college, possibly #1.