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Daniel Hacket combo guard In the Italian League to workout for the Knicks
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7/6/2015  9:10 AM
Daniel Hackett will fly to the USA today and he will have a workout with the New York Knicks, as reported by La Gazzetta dello Sport.
The Italian combo guard left Olimpia Milano after a year and half and ruled out he will play in Italy next season.

“I don’t know what will happen. I will try to be in the best shape possible for the workout. My future is not in Italy. I think it is a good choice for me to play abroad and in Euroleague” Hackett said. “I know Djordjevic since time and he is a friend of my agent. Panathinaikos is searching for guards on the market and I can’t deny we had a contact. On July 18 I will be back in Italy and I will decide my future” added Hackett.

Kid played 3 years at USC and went undrafted in 2009.

Strengths: Large and versatile combo-guard with a good shooting stroke. Unselfish player who showed ability to run the point full-time as a junior.

don't know anything else about him

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7/6/2015  9:11 AM
Liking this international themed team Phil is building...
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7/6/2015  9:15 AM
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7/6/2015  9:27 AM
He was supposed to workout for the Knicks three weeks ago. I thought it didn't go well because there was no coverage on how it went.
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7/6/2015  9:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2015  9:33 AM
CrushAlot wrote:He was supposed to workout for the Knicks three weeks ago. I thought it didn't go well because there was no coverage on how it went.

You must be right, it's being reported today on Hoopshype, but if you follow the link to the original report it's dated 6/7. Maybe he plays summer league. I still haven't seen where we have released our SL roster anywhere.

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7/6/2015  9:43 AM
Kid has the physical attributes and supposedly a good defender but his offensive skills are limited across the board. Id be shocked if this look is nothing more than a formality to quickly rule him out. Dont know what $ Marcelo Huertas of Brazil, 31 yrs old, is looking for but he's established in international play and a true pg who has been likened to Prigs, he drives and creates more than Prigioni though he isnt the same defender or 3pt shooter. Had 13 assists in Oympic game vs U.S.A team. btw, I wonder if Knicks would try to get Prigs back, he fits this present roster well and would be a good veteran tutor for Grant especially if Calderon somehow leaves at trade deadline
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7/6/2015  9:44 AM
Rookie wrote:Daniel Hackett will fly to the USA today and he will have a workout with the New York Knicks, as reported by La Gazzetta dello Sport.
The Italian combo guard left Olimpia Milano after a year and half and ruled out he will play in Italy next season.

“I don’t know what will happen. I will try to be in the best shape possible for the workout. My future is not in Italy. I think it is a good choice for me to play abroad and in Euroleague” Hackett said. “I know Djordjevic since time and he is a friend of my agent. Panathinaikos is searching for guards on the market and I can’t deny we had a contact. On July 18 I will be back in Italy and I will decide my future” added Hackett.

Kid played 3 years at USC and went undrafted in 2009.

Strengths: Large and versatile combo-guard with a good shooting stroke. Unselfish player who showed ability to run the point full-time as a junior.

don't know anything else about him


I remember talking about him on here before the draft. Looks good in his video clips but those are euro games where most americans look good.
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7/6/2015  10:39 AM
We need a good SG prospect who is ready to play 15-20 minutes next year. This guy looks solid but nothing special. I trust that Phil knows we need another SG, and he will fid us a decent one. There are a ton of 6'4 - 6'6" guys around with decent jumpshots that will play on a vet min. contract. The scouts just need to find the right young guy or older vet.
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7/6/2015  10:41 AM
Could be a diamond in the rough. I remember someone posted about the Knicks interest in this kid a couple weeks ago and was wondering what was up. It'd be sweet to score a couple out-of-nowhere types this season to bolster the roster.
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7/6/2015  11:00 AM
H1AND1 wrote:Could be a diamond in the rough. I remember someone posted about the Knicks interest in this kid a couple weeks ago and was wondering what was up. It'd be sweet to score a couple out-of-nowhere types this season to bolster the roster.

ok, thanks to the search function I found that thread

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=51517&page=1

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7/6/2015  11:11 AM
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Daniel_Hackett/Summary/1667 If there is anything special here then I dont see it. Just a glance at a another body that fits the profile that Jax likes.
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7/6/2015  11:57 AM
meloanyk wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Daniel_Hackett/Summary/1667 If there is anything special here then I dont see it. Just a glance at a another body that fits the profile that Jax likes.

Based on what was found a few weeks ago and posted in the other thread he played really well in the Italian league (winning championships and being that league's MVP) on a team that ran the triangle in Europe. Also he was a PG at 6'6. If he was brought over it would be as much for his familiarity with the triangle as for his actual abilities.

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7/6/2015  1:47 PM
wargames wrote:
meloanyk wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Daniel_Hackett/Summary/1667 If there is anything special here then I dont see it. Just a glance at a another body that fits the profile that Jax likes.

Based on what was found a few weeks ago and posted in the other thread he played really well in the Italian league (winning championships and being that league's MVP) on a team that ran the triangle in Europe. Also he was a PG at 6'6. If he was brought over it would be as much for his familiarity with the triangle as for his actual abilities.

Well, there is something to be said for a 27 year old SG/PG who can run the triangle and played in Europe. I'm sure if Phil thinks the guy is a fit he will be here.

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7/6/2015  1:50 PM
phil and lopez need another hippie

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7/6/2015  2:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2015  2:45 PM
I like this guy, I think we need another ball handler that could play PG/SG, to compliment Calderon and his inability to create/penetrate (as we only have Grant to do so on our roster)
On top of him being ambidextrous, HIGH IQ player, able to play both PG/SG, he has experience in the Triangle already, and has a great demeanor for TEAM basketball with maturity and appreciating the NBA like Copeland did...

Maybe we use the last of our 2.8m on 2 players that have no NBA experience but are not TRUE ROOKIES, at 1.4m with raises, on a 3year deal (while teams like Philly do 4year deal, totally using their leverage to the max) it would allow us to develop and keep talent on our roster on a "fair deal" It is hard in New York with the property/cost of living being so high, as NBA player with 0 experience get about 500k now, then get taxed, yes that is way more than most families make in a year combined, but the "NBA lifestyle" is different as well

With Thanasis taking "less money, last season" to play for the D League Knicks, do we reward him, to a 3year deal with another player?
Keeping players happy vs unhappy makes a huge difference, along with comfortable but NOT too comfortable *as in wanting to get better and pushing themselves both on the court and in the gym*
We even could split it 3, making it about 933k with raises, for 3 players with 0 NBA experience
With KP and Grant, getting players that know the Triangle and are WILLING teachers/mentors goes a long way, along with players that appreciate being in the league motivation...
KP has strong ethic and with these younger talents, could form a bond together with guys, as this years class will need some more young PINK schoolbags for their "rooks"


It really depends on what kind of value/targets our 2.8m can actually acquire, even with a trade, for James Johnson fits right in
If it would give us Alan Anderson, Carlos Boozer, or Lou Amundson, I would likely pass respectively especially if they want multiyear deals or player options
Both Affalo and Derrick William have PLAYER OPTIONS on year 2 of their contracts
While we gave a 4year contract for Lopez at that price with no TEAM OPTION, it should tell us that we do not intrigue talent to consider, that was why we signed these lower talents
I do not believe Derrick Williams had any leverage against us as no other team would likely give him 5m with lack of PT he has been getting the past 2 seasons
Vet min to 3m should be the highest for him, as Omri Casspi only got 3m per year on a 2year deal, that played ahead of Williams last season on The Kings

It is very possible that Affalo and Williams are following the JR Smith route, as an incentive to stay in New York, for them to OPT OUT NEXT YEAR, and resign to another 2year deal with a player option with a higher raise, After 2 seasons, we would own their EARLY BIRD RIGHTS, and would ink them to LONGER term deals if they prove to be fits, if not we let them walk and screw them....
Again, I like Derrick Wiliams as player just not with the player option and at that price
Wesley Johnson >>> Derrick Wiliams while Johnson also played with Derrick Williams and has experience in the Triangle, and he would be a cost efficient player that has the ability to become a 3 and D type player to defend SG, SF, and PF (against big SF's that plays PF at times) while he could also defend PG's on switches when needed
While Derrick Williams would still consider joining NYK's if we showed interest from him from the start of FA, and sign him with the room exemption, possibly even a 2year vet min deal with player option
I like Kyle O Quin who has shown that he could PASS/FACILITATE for a Center, which is why we targeted him, Ajincia/Brandon Wright even Lavoy Allen, Serephin *UFA* are all better shot blockers/defenders than Kyle O Quin, with Biyombo
Lopez is a decent role player but he is overpaid, while we likely could have signed him for less, as he could live with his brother Brook Lopez to save money, offering him a contract that would be 10-12m with raises would leave us with some extra money, with Asik as a measure of the market price for him, we also could have signed Koufous with backup money and he likely will choose NYK's with the ability to compete/start for us, with a 3year deal, possibly team option on 3rd
He showed he was capable of starting when he was in Denver, as George Karl preferred him over McGee and MosGoV (who I always felt was better than Koufus but management wanted MosGoV to be resigned for less money so Karl wouldn't give him much playing time)

Instead of Affalo, I would much rather take my chances on a younger prospect/versatility like Aminu which was one of the FIRST FA's that scored a deal with Portland to replace Battum
Aminu's combination of LENGTH/SIZE/STRENGTH/ATHLETICISM and VERSATILITY to defend SG's to PF would be better as he is younger and could continue to get better
He improved his 3pt shooting last season and played very well for the Mavs when he got starter minutes especially in the playoffs vs Houston
Along with signing Jeremy Evans to a 2year deal on a vet min contract is a steal when the cap will rise NEXT season, who has GREAT LENGTH/ATHLETICISM and was a slam dunk Champion as a SF/PF
Players like him with Aminu are still young, with their weakness being SHOOTING that could be taught, for great RISK/REWARD
Now adding players like Wesley Johnson UFA, James Johnson in a trade, in addition to Thanasis, would give us multiple versatile defenders from SG to PF, that would ALL COMPLIMENT each other, with a better defensive team with more YOUNG TALENT that could continue to improve


I think we were still better of signing Greg Monroe on a 15m deal, his MAX IS 15.5, than Lopez, and then make moves from there, with the rest of the room whether we are only able to add 1-3 players at most, in addition to the room exemption, then acquiring the talents I have above on cost friendly contracts, would give us a much better team moving forward
Greg Monroe isn't the best shot blocker but at Center, not many can defend him as he has speed/quickness/mobility/ mid range game and post game, that many Centers will have trouble defending
He can be a much better rebounder, passer/facilitator, and could defend MOST Centers with no trouble (he just can not constantly play HELP DEFENSE
But with the players I assembled above, those are ALL QUALITY defenders that we would not need Monroe to be our HELP DEFENDER
Then adding in these European talents, Summer League Roster, D League, and Undrafted FA's, would finish our roster, along with the UFA's the Knick's could bring back for experience in the system

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7/6/2015  5:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2015  5:26 PM
I dunno man--I really like what I see on video A LOT. Defintely agree with RonRon---big, versatile, ambidexterous, he can handle it, distribute, I like his offensive game and he supposedly defends. On one of the above videos he talked about switching from being originally a right hand shooter to a lefty (you would never know it -- lefty stroke looks completely natural, like he's always been lefty) and that the change may have occurred after watching a player like Manu Ginobli. I can definitely see some similarities between he and Ginobli...We could definitely use this guy.

Have a funny feeling it might boil down to Shved vs. Hackett, Thanasis vs. Mo N'dour and the big C Ovidijus Galdakis for the last couple of spots on the roster. That might be where they're at in their evaluation on finishing the roster.. Not a bad problem to have--they're all decent, versatile players..

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7/7/2015  12:15 PM
Hacket and Wesley Johnson are 2 players that played in The Triangle system before, with our D League roster last year, Johnson also has experience playing with Derrick Williams and with Kurt Rambis on The Twolves


I really like Daniel Hacket, I think we need a play maker that could PENTETRATE/CREATE/FACILITATE consistently for the team and play and be able to PG/SG, as Grant is the only one on our roster that could do it right now
He can also hit the 3pter, DEFEND at a high level, POST UP, finish with both hands, like Triston Thompson he switched from his right hand to shooting the ball with his left hand
Hacket would FIT IN with Calderon and add to the Knick's TOUGHNESS/DEFENSE, while he plays in a tough like with Italy, team mates and friends with Derozan *TROJAN* and Bellinlil/Gallo *Italy's National team*, along with OJ MAYO *TROJAN*
Gallanari is a great friend of his and could be a possiblity in reuniting him along with Wilson Chandler next summer as both will be UFA's, especially if CA demands a trade with a poor start like last season and if we are unable to lure Durant over


In fact, UNLESS ANOTHER PLAYER is WILLING TO TAKE LESS for the 2.8m room exemption, I think we should consider using it on 2 players with NO NBA experience, possibly even 3, though if we used it on 2 players, they both should be content to sign a 3year deal with team option on 3rd, to avoid future poison pills and payed higher than the minimum for NBA players with 0years of experience at a bit over 500k

There are still decent players left, like Wesley Johnson *would prefer him over other UFA's because of his length/athleticism/defensive abilities* and Gereld Green
I would not want to use it on aging veterans like Boozer, Butler, Prince, while a vet min would be a solid signing
We could consider offering it to Shved and AB, though I wouldn't mind Jason Smith returning, I think he will be in decline as he will be an undersized Center than "PF", as he gets slower and loses his athleticism
Not sure if there are offers for AB but wouldn't mind getting a better look at him in this system for 2.8m, though the same could be said for Jason Smith
Shved played well for in 12 games while he played mainly SG but allowed Galloway to play off the ball as a shooting threat, while Shved could create/penetrate/facilitate and hit the 3pt shot and got to the line, though it was a small sample size


If we used it on 2 players, we could consider players on our Summer League or D League, with possibly 3 players

Thanasis took much less to play in the D league last year, 500k less
So if we used it on Thanasis and Daniel Hacket, it would keep both players happy
1.4m for 2 players with 0years experience with raises or 3players at about 933k with raises each year
The other player I could see us using it on would be the Center that plays on the Lith Team, the 200pound SF/PF that but up great stats but went undrafted, along with Orlando Sanchez
There are other D League talents that we could consider to use it on, though it wouldn't be much of a difference unless the player has 0years of NBA experience

We do not have to offer Thanasis more money but he likely not be very happy because he took much less to play for the D League and learn the Triangle as Phil Jackson requested
KJ Mcdaniels comes to my mind, who was unwilling to sign a 2year or multiyear deal when Philly drafted him with a high 2nd rounder last year, Houston put a qualifying offer on him so they can match any offer he gets, and likely will unless he is seriously overpaid

We can sign these guys to TRAINING CAMP and stay UNDER THE CAP in the mean time as well for the guys on our Summer League though they could get offers from other teams
By staying under the cap, we have advantages, we can put claims on players that get waived and amnestied, which will eventually happen

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7/10/2015  8:02 AM

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7/10/2015  8:23 AM
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Daniel Hacket combo guard In the Italian League to workout for the Knicks

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