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newyorker4ever
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6/29/2015  9:48 AM
He says he wants to go someplace that he's the missing piece and he'd love to play for his hometown of the New Orleans Pelicans. I know a lot of people don't want him anyway but if we don't get him then we're donzo cause he's the biggest name that we had any chance with. I would usually post the article but I can't from work so if anyone wants to get the link from Chat Sports and post it for others then please do.
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6/29/2015  9:48 AM
that stooge
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6/29/2015  9:58 AM
What is he suppose to say? "I want to go to a team ready to lose?"
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6/29/2015  9:59 AM
Posturing, just wants to get the full max from the Knicks. He goes to the Bucks maybe he or Blazers he isn't winning anything. Most of these guys are all about personal brand. The Knicks will make the playoffs next season with 3 free agents, best interest for him to take the teams money.
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6/29/2015  10:01 AM
I think this is his agent way of helping the knicks avoid tampering charges.
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6/29/2015  10:03 AM
MS wrote:Posturing, just wants to get the full max from the Knicks. He goes to the Bucks maybe he or Blazers he isn't winning anything. Most of these guys are all about personal brand. The Knicks will make the playoffs next season with 3 free agents, best interest for him to take the teams money.

The good thing is Phil already built up our bench.....So we are currently a plug and play team, that will have a drastic turn around, just by adding 2-3 free agents. I think drafting Grant is like adding a free agent. He's a mature senior at the most critical position, and he's a floor general and leader. It's like adding a free agent on a cheap contract.

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6/29/2015  10:10 AM
People were complaining here saying the max (16 mil per year) was overpaying him. That would be a bargain. But he's not dumb, he will take the 2 year deal and get an even bigger payday after that, and people are going to be wishing we could have a player anywhere near his talent level for 16 mil per year. Times are changing, there's a new level of money being made. If we can lock up good players this summer for the current salary cap's money, we need to do it.
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6/29/2015  10:12 AM
I don't think there was any real tampering. Agents talk to GM's all the time. There's no way the NBA can legislate that away. Players talk to other players etc. It's just the realities of the situation. If no specific offer is made then really you don't have much.

Monroe knows what his options are but the details of what the people at each team are like and how they plan on using him is what he needs to know about. Getting more familiar with Phil's plan for him and his history with coaching bigs could help a lot. I'm pretty sure Monroe's agent has explained to him the positives of his being a Knick.
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6/29/2015  10:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2015  11:01 AM
Let's see how he feels after meeting with Phil. Hopefully Phil sells this situation the right way -- a lot has to break right but we can get back to being a winning team a lot sooner than people think, esp. with Monroe on board. Listening to Monroe talk about how he feels he would complement Anthony Davis--he should feel the same exact way about Porzingis as well. He'd complement Melo very well too. And speaking of our diva -- Melo really needs to be a part of any meeting with Greg Monroe. No question about that. Let's test the theory that Melo still has enough star power to attract good FAs. Hopefully he does. And hopefully he goes into that meeting talking up KP as well -- don't say anything stupid though, like you didn't want KP in the draft. If I were Phil, don't leave that up to chance--prep Melo beforehand on what to say and what not to say going in...The more I think about Monroe, the more I want him. He's already a 16/10 6'11" 250 lb. PF/C just entering his prime years. Dude took only 12.5 shots a game last year in 31 mins. a night. LaMarcus Aldridge by comparison: 20 shots a game in over 35 mins. a night. Simple deduction using basic metrics -- you give Greg Monroe a few more mins. per game along with a couple of more shots at the basket, he'd be very close to 20/12 at 50% (that greatly improved his FT shooting last year too I might add--up over 75% last year). What did we honestly expect outta Jahlil Okafor if we drafted him? Pretty much the same thing, right? And that might be Okafor's absolute ceiling -- there's a chance he never gets there or is years away from putting up those kind of numbers...REAL GOOD CHANCE, however, that Monroe gets there next season with only 2-3 more mins a night and 2-3 more shots at the basket. EXTREMELY LIKELY that Monroe can get to that production level. Monroe just turned 25 years old (Aldridge is gonna turn 30 this July), Monroe would come for the reduced max around $15mm/year where Aldridge is gonna get $20mm a year... And trust me--if we look hard enough, we can find other defensive-minded role players for cheap money to slide in right next to Monroe to cover him and his shortcomings. I wouldn't be worried about that at all. Go get me Greg Monroe! No brainer for me all around.
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6/29/2015  10:32 AM
I think the Knicks should pass. Menlo + Monroe does not make a championship core. I would even have doubts about adding a 20 pts per game scorer from a crap team at the max( remember Tony Campbell? Charles Smith?) A 16 pts scorer without toughness and attitude? No way!
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6/29/2015  10:35 AM
He also said he might want to stay in Detroit.
He gets mo' money if he has more suiters and its always smart to say you want to stay.
He can get more money from Detroit and a sign and trade if possible would be great for him.

While I won't discount his statement, I would not put much value in it. He was asked a question, he gave an answer.
Im sure in his mind a max offer from San Antonio would be great for him! More teams, more choices, and bidding is always a good thing!
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6/29/2015  10:42 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:I think the Knicks should pass. Menlo + Monroe does not make a championship core. I would even have doubts about adding a 20 pts per game scorer from a crap team at the max( remember Tony Campbell? Charles Smith?) A 16 pts scorer without toughness and attitude? No way!

You have to take each case on it's own. Monroe is a legit NBA big. He can score inside and pass out of the post, which is a huge need in the Triangle. Monroe is also a good rebounder. Basically he's one of the better bigs in the league outside of the top guys like Gasol and LMA. He would most surely help this team with his production. We would help him by having him in a better role for his skills. He should actually perform BETTER in NY than he did in Detroit. Their style of play didn't benefit him as much as it could.
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6/29/2015  10:45 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:I think the Knicks should pass. Menlo + Monroe does not make a championship core. I would even have doubts about adding a 20 pts per game scorer from a crap team at the max( remember Tony Campbell? Charles Smith?) A 16 pts scorer without toughness and attitude? No way!

Your right, Melo and monroe is not the championship core. But, before you get there you have to find your way to "Respectable Street" and Monroe is a step in the right direction.
One might even say the path to contendership is an asset trade for Melo.

This will take a while.
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6/29/2015  10:52 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:I think the Knicks should pass. Menlo + Monroe does not make a championship core. I would even have doubts about adding a 20 pts per game scorer from a crap team at the max( remember Tony Campbell? Charles Smith?) A 16 pts scorer without toughness and attitude? No way!

We would continue to add to that core. It is not expected to be a championship core, just the 2 of them. You have to add another star probably in 2016, and hope KP becomes a high level contributor in the next couple of years. But if you judge adding a guy based on whether he instantly turns us into a contender or not, you won't be happy signing anyone other than maybe lebron or durant. We have to take small steps. Monroe at 16 mil is a bargain.
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6/29/2015  10:53 AM
Nalod wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:I think the Knicks should pass. Menlo + Monroe does not make a championship core. I would even have doubts about adding a 20 pts per game scorer from a crap team at the max( remember Tony Campbell? Charles Smith?) A 16 pts scorer without toughness and attitude? No way!

Your right, Melo and monroe is not the championship core. But, before you get there you have to find your way to "Respectable Street" and Monroe is a step in the right direction.
One might even say the path to contendership is an asset trade for Melo.

This will take a while.


+1. Exactly my thoughts.
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6/29/2015  11:02 AM
It's not like we can bring in Lebron. What single player would make the Knicks a contender? This team has too many needs for that to be the case. You get a young and productive big that fills a need for the team. He's not really gonna make a dent on rim protection or help D, but we have to be realistic. Which big can we expect to get that solves all of the needs of a post player who can pass and rebound and also protect the rim and help defend?

We'll likely have to look to add additional bigs who have some of the skills Monroe lacks. Koufos, Ajinca, RLopez ...
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6/29/2015  11:10 AM
Knixkik wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:I think the Knicks should pass. Menlo + Monroe does not make a championship core. I would even have doubts about adding a 20 pts per game scorer from a crap team at the max( remember Tony Campbell? Charles Smith?) A 16 pts scorer without toughness and attitude? No way!

Your right, Melo and monroe is not the championship core. But, before you get there you have to find your way to "Respectable Street" and Monroe is a step in the right direction.
One might even say the path to contendership is an asset trade for Melo.

This will take a while.


+1. Exactly my thoughts.

+1. Monroe is not my first choice but he is fairly high on my list.
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6/29/2015  11:17 AM
blkexec wrote:What is he suppose to say? "I want to go to a team ready to lose?"

lol. exactly

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/29/2015  11:18 AM
callmened wrote:
blkexec wrote:What is he suppose to say? "I want to go to a team ready to lose?"

lol. exactly


He doesn't have to raise the issue at all, unless a reporter asked him a multiple choice question about whether he wants to go to a team that's a) ready to win or b) ready to lose
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6/29/2015  11:26 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
callmened wrote:
blkexec wrote:What is he suppose to say? "I want to go to a team ready to lose?"

lol. exactly


He doesn't have to raise the issue at all, unless a reporter asked him a multiple choice question about whether he wants to go to a team that's a) ready to win or b) ready to lose
they always say it... Any player thats not about winning is about money, and players like to pretend one is always more important than another
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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